Wrongfully Deported SoCal Man Found

[Eugene]

Source: Associated Press

Wrongfully Deported SoCal Man Found

By JACOB ADELMAN, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, August 7, 2007

(08-07) 11:04 PDT LOS ANGELES, (AP) --

A U.S. citizen who was wrongly deported in May was found
at a border crossing and could be reunited with his family
soon, an American Civil Liberties Union spokesman said
Tuesday.

Superior Court Judge Carlos Chung ordered Pedro Guzman's
release at a hearing Tuesday in Lancaster. Guzman, 29, was
expected to rejoin his family later in the day, according
to ACLU Southern California spokesman Michael Soller.

Guzman was jailed on a misdemeanor trespassing violation
and deported to Mexico on May 11, according to authorities,
after he allegedly told immigration and sheriff's officials
that he was an illegal immigrant.

Guzman's family is suing federal and county officials over
the deportation. In the lawsuit, the family claims Guzman
is mentally disabled and was asked about his immigration
status in jail and responded that he was born in California.

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Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/07/national/a105520D03.DTL

[Mythsaje]

1. "I was born in East L.A., man."

I wonder how often this kind of crap really happens.

[treestar]

2. Like the old song by Cheech and Chong

He was born in East L.A. and got deported.

There are people of Hispanic descent in California whose ancestors were in the area long before it was part of the U.S. Makes it even more ironic.

[happyslug]

5. Both True and False.

The Spanish population of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas was quite low when the area was annexed between 1845 and 1848. They is even an argument that they was more Anglos in the Area then Mexicans BEFORE 1845 (Weaker if you exclude Texas but still an argument). The problem was the whole area was weakly populated (except for Native Americans) BEFORE 1845. The reasons Mexico left the Whites moved into Texas was to provide Texas with some sort of population.

Now I am NOT saying they was NO Mexicans in the South west before 1848, but to claim that many of todays Hispanic Population of the South west are descendants from BEFORE 1848 is equally untrue. You had a small population of Mexicans before 1848 but most Mexicans moved into the Southwest AFTER 1848 as part of the general immigration into the US. A big move occurred during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 where refugees from Mexico entered the US and do to the lack of immigrants from Europe (do to WWI) entered the US work force (A similar immigration occurred during the French Occupation of Mexico in the 1860s). Immigration as restricted in the early 1920s but restrictions were reduced do help the farmers of the west get they crops in starting during WWII and increasing afterward.

People forget that with with Independence, Mexico lost effective control of what is now the American Southwest (that is if the Spanish ever had effective control of the area). Starting in the 1820s Americans were shipping goods to New Mexico, and New Mexico has shifted its trade routes from right is now Mexico to St Louis. California was slower, but not that much slower (and in Northern California where the Gold was to be found, more Russian than Spanish, people forget Sutter of Sutter's mill fame bought his mill he found Gold near from the Russian fur Company). San Francisco and Monterey were founded by the Spanish, but this was an area where the Russians also had claims and held land. My point was that what is now the American Southwest was in transition between 1820 and 1848 even while still technically part of Mexico. All of this was do to the low number of Mexicans in the area.

On top of this you have the problem of ancestry. It has been 7-8 generations since 1848. With each generation having at least two parents you re looking at 14-16 people as your ancestors in the 1840 (assumed no one married a Cousin, including Second and Third Cousins). Given that many possible ancestors it is easy for many Mexicans today to have had one born in the American Southwest even if they have lived in Mexico for the last 100 years or so.

My point is to claim that Mexicans have been in the US Southwest since before the Southwest was part of the US is meaningless. The numbers of Mexicans were NOT that great, and it plays down the LEGAL immigration since 1848 (especially in the Rural Southwest). A person of Mexican descent who was born in the US is a US Citizen and should be treated no different from any other US Citizen.

[mitchtv]

10. other than Fort Ross

Russian influence was pretty small in Calif. The Vallejos stopped them at Napa/Sonoma. Thanks to the foresight of Gov Arguello

[Adsos Letter]

11. Yup..El Rancho Grande...

[DURHAM D]

12. I don't know anything about this issue -

but when I have traveled in the southwest its seems that no distinction is made between Mexicans and the indigenous (Native American) population descendants.

[Ernest Partridge]

7. Our 'Murican Cities

Who the hell to these hispanics think they are, hanging around our good ole 100% American cities: San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, Santa Fe, San Antonio?

By the way, Santa Fe was founded (1515) long before Jamestown (1609) and Plymouth (1620).

[1monster]

8. Your founding date of Santa Fe is nearly 100 year off. According to the

city of Santa Fe, its 400th anniversary is in 2009. St. Augustine, Florida, is the first successful (continuously occupied) European settlement in the United States. The citizens of St. Augustine celebrated its 400th anniversary in 1965. They are currently planning for St. Augustine's 450th anniversary in 2015.

Sante was eleven years prior to Plymouth Rock, but was two years behind Jamestown (1607) the citizen of which are celebrating its 400th anniversary this year, and forty-four years after St. Augustine.

http://santafe.org/Media_Center/Press_Room/Current_Releases/Santa_Fe_s_400th_Anniversary_Coming_Up_-_2007/index.html

March, 1609 will be recognized as the date the Viceroy ordered the settling of the city during an event on March 30, 2009. Then, everyone will be invited to Santa Fe from Memorial Day, 2010 through the Santa Fe Fiesta during the week after Labor Day to commemorate the 400th Anniversary.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. He will be met at the border...

By his parents and family, who he will have to find in the sea of lawyers.

[Karenina]

4. GREAT NEWS!!!

Thank you for this update!!! I'm SO HAPPY for his mom!!! :bounce:

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

6. I heard this story before...

I seem to recall a petty thief from Texas being deported to Barbados by mistake a number of years ago and Barbados not having a clue what to do with the guy so they just threw him in jail.

[Demeter]

9. A Lucky Break for Everyone

Let's try not to need to waste our luck on such avoidable things, shall we?

[struggle4progress]

13. Deported U.S. Citizen Is Returned to Family

Associated Press
Wednesday, August 8, 2007; Page A02

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 7 -- A wrongly deported U.S. citizen who was missing for nearly three months in Mexico ate out of garbage cans, bathed in rivers and was repeatedly turned away by U.S. border agents when he tried to return to California, his family said Tuesday.

Pedro Guzman, 29, was picked up at the Calexico border crossing over the weekend. He was released to his family on Tuesday.

Guzman was shaking and stuttering and appeared traumatized, his family said at a news conference. Family members said they plan to seek medical attention for Guzman, who was not at the news conference.

"They took him whole but only returned half of him to me," his mother, Maria Carbajal, said in Spanish while crying. "The government is responsible for this." ~snip~

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080702260.html