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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:39 AM
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US bombs Shiite gang as Baghdad pilgrimage begins
Source: afp



US bombs Shiite gang as Baghdad pilgrimage begins

by Khalil Jalil 28 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AFP) - American jets and helicopters bombed Baghdad's largest Shiite slum on Wednesday in a deadly strike targeting Iranian-backed militia, as thousands of pilgrims thronged the streets of the city.


The US military estimated that 30 "terrorists" were killed in the overnight strike on Sadr City, but families complained that women and children were among the dead, and angry mourners gathered to bury simple wooden caskets.

Helicopters and war planes were called in after Iraqi and US ground troops arrested 12 members of a cell that American commanders believe brought weapons and explosives from Iran, and sent militants to Iran for training.

"The assault force and the overhead aerial support observed a vehicle and large group of armed men on foot attempting an assault on the ground forces," the military said in a statement.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070808/ts_afp/iraq_070808125902;_ylt=AoMh.1_NIQdOj15qeUYv64Cs0NUE






"AFP Photo: An Iraqi boy cries as he follows a car carrying the coffin of a relative..."
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:42 AM
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1. yeah right -- they only killed the terrorists.
this has the making of debacle all over it.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:48 AM
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2. Don't you know?
You're supposed to believe everything that the fools on the hill tell you! :sarcasm:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:56 AM
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6. i really have to write that down -- because i keep forgetting that.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:52 AM
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3. OMG now the Al Qaida terrorists are Shiite. Who would have ever thought.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:56 AM
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5. delete
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 12:02 PM by Canuckistanian
not enough coffee this morning
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:54 AM
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4. Oh Lordy. God bless our troops--this isn't their idea. What a mess.
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UKProPeace Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:14 PM
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7. Ok which idiot decided to start the bombing at exactly the same time as a pilgrimage?
Strikes me as yet another war crime....Forces are supposed to take every precaution necessary to avoid civilian deaths - quite obviously there must have been civilian deaths due to the nature of this attack.

Commanders must have known about the timing of this pilgrimage, if they didn't this strikes me as yet another example of the cultural ignorance displayed by occupiers.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:22 PM
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8. No one could have anticipated
that anyone but tehrists were living there! Right?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:38 PM
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9. I get so confused...
US Arming Sunnis in Iraq to Battle Old Qaeda Allies
By John F. Burns and Alissa J. Rubin
New York Times
June 11, 2007

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/world/middleeast/11iraq.html?ex=1339214400&en=7c69df022224828e&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
BAGHDAD, June 10 — With the four-month-old increase in American troops showing only modest success in curbing insurgent attacks, American commanders are turning to another strategy that they acknowledge is fraught with risk: arming Sunni Arab groups that have promised to fight militants linked with Al Qaeda who have been their allies in the past.


American commanders say they have successfully tested the strategy in Anbar Province west of Baghdad and have held talks with Sunni groups in at least four areas of central and north-central Iraq where the insurgency has been strong. In some cases, the American commanders say, the Sunni groups are suspected of involvement in past attacks on American troops or of having links to such groups. Some of these groups, they say, have been provided, usually through Iraqi military units allied with the Americans, with arms, ammunition, cash, fuel and supplies.

American officers who have engaged in what they call outreach to the Sunni groups say many of them have had past links to Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia but grew disillusioned with the Islamic militants’ extremist tactics, particularly suicide bombings that have killed thousands of Iraqi civilians. In exchange for American backing, these officials say, the Sunni groups have agreed to fight Al Qaeda and halt attacks on American units. Commanders who have undertaken these negotiations say that in some cases, Sunni groups have agreed to alert American troops to the location of roadside bombs and other lethal booby traps.

But critics of the strategy, including some American officers, say it could amount to the Americans’ arming both sides in a future civil war. The United States has spent more than $15 billion in building up Iraq’s army and police force, whose manpower of 350,000 is heavily Shiite. With an American troop drawdown increasingly likely in the next year, and little sign of a political accommodation between Shiite and Sunni politicians in Baghdad, the critics say, there is a risk that any weapons given to Sunni groups will eventually be used against Shiites. There is also the possibility the weapons could be used against the Americans themselves.


US Doubles Air Attacks in Iraq
By Charles J. Hanley
Associated Press
June 5, 2007
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/06/05/us_doubles_air_attacks_in_iraq/?rss_id=Boston.com+%2F+News
Four years into the war that opened with "shock and awe," U.S. warplanes have again stepped up attacks in Iraq, dropping bombs at more than twice the rate of a year ago. The airpower escalation parallels a nearly four-month-old security crackdown that is bringing 30,000 additional U.S. troops into Baghdad and its surroundings - an urban campaign aimed at restoring order to an area riven with sectarian violence. It also reflects increased availability of planes from U.S. aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. And it appears to be accompanied by a rise in Iraqi civilian casualties.


In the first 4 1/2 months of 2007, American aircraft dropped 237 bombs and missiles in support of ground forces in Iraq, already surpassing the 229 expended in all of 2006, according to U.S. Air Force figures obtained by The Associated Press.

"Air operations over Iraq have ratcheted up significantly, in the number of sorties, the number of hours (in the air)," said Col. Joe Guastella, Air Force operations chief for the region. "It has a lot to do with increased pressure on the enemy by MNC-I" - the Multinational Corps-Iraq - "combined with more carriers."


IRAQ: US Military Still Runs With Dreaded Wolf Brigade
Analysis by Gareth Porter*

WASHINGTON, Jan 2 (IPS) - Despite the U.S. command's announcement last week that it would seek to curb abuses by Iraqi commando units, the U.S. military has been extremely tolerant of the most abusive unit of all -- the notorious Wolf Brigade -- because it regards it as highly effective against the insurgents.

As reported in a front-page New York Times story on Dec. 30, a senior U.S. commander said the United States would greatly increase the number of soldiers advising Iraqi commando units. The unidentified U.S. general also suggested that commandos had developed with little U.S. supervision.
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The record shows, however, that the U.S. military has had a close operational relationship with the Wolf Brigade, the most hated and feared commando unit, and has even carried out joint operations with it. The U.S. command had repeatedly sent the Brigade to carry out operations in Sunni cities despite the opposition of U.S. Embassy officials who warned that such deployments would fuel sectarian tensions and violence.

And until last week's press briefing in Baghdad, high-ranking U.S. officers had portrayed the Brigade as effective and suggested that its reliance on such extreme methods were to be expected under the circumstances in Iraq.


The day after the press was informed of the plan to add more U.S. advisers to commando units, Maj. Gen. William Webster, commander of "multinational forces" in the Baghdad area, told a press briefing that the move is "not specifically designed to prevent them from abusing detainees, but that is certainly part of our goal".
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31639


The Salvador Option exposed.
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/pdf/DeathSquads.pdf
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UKProPeace Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:21 PM
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10. Apparently the Freepers would "Pay good money to see that"
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 01:22 PM by UKProPeace
I've just been reading this thread over there.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878128/posts

To: PreciousLiberty
I’d pay good money to see footage of that airstrike.
We sometimes get to watch stuff like that from a roof. I've said the same thing...people would pay good money to be able to see this. It's always very exciting.


10 posted on 08/08/2007 11:12:02 AM PDT by Allegra (9 - ssssingle digit!)

Allegra is apparently a defence contractor, well, what more needs to be said? a US defence contractor who enjoys seeing people killed. Not unusual, even if it does include dead civilians.

This is a quote on Allegra's profile page:

""Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one." "

Of course to sick deranged psychos like Alegra and the psychophantic blood thirsty - innocent civilians don't deserve "God's gift" if they're Iraqis.

If Alegra claims to be a "Christian", then she's gonna get a HELL of a shock....Now, I would pay to see those "Christian's" faces when they're given their "judgement".
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:07 PM
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11. Bush's Crusade!
I am sure we will get the full details on MSM and only the bad guys were killed, don't you know...we have smart bombs! At least it wasn't a wedding party, just a pilgrimage!
:sarcasm:

The Bush/Cheney cabal really must hate the Iraqi people...no electricity, no water, no security, and killed indiscriminately!

It is a abomination what they are doing in our name! Makes my head explode!!!!:mad: :grr:
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winstonrazek Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:00 PM
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12. Infinite Justice
Modern Crusade
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