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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:52 PM
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GOP Texas Takeover Is Subject of (criminal) Investigation
From Saturday's Los Angeles Times. No link yet.

GOP Texas Takeover Is Subject of Investigation
By Scott Gold
(c) 2004, Los Angeles Times

AUSTIN, Texas -- Authorities are conducting a criminal investigation into whether corporate money, including hundreds of thousands of dollars linked to U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, improperly financed the Republican Party's takeover of the Texas Capitol.

The probe is focused on several political and fundraising organizations run by Republican activists, investigators said. One of the organizations, the political action committee, Texans for a Republican Majority, has direct ties to DeLay, a Texas Republican and one of the most powerful politicians in Washington.

At issue is whether the organizations improperly used corporate contributions to help finance the campaigns of more than 20 Republican candidates for the Texas House of Representatives in 2002, according to documents and interviews with prosecutors and government investigators.

... Investigators said they suspect that the Texas group spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on telephone banks and other initiatives during the election -- projects, they said, that went beyond the administrative costs corporations are allowed to fund in Texas elections. The money, in effect, represented a direct contribution to Republican candidates, they argue.

more to come
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:57 PM
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1. wow.....
let's hope!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:58 PM
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2. Tom Delay dong the perp walk
now wouldn' that be a dream come true
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:18 PM
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9. that IS
a special dream for me. to have his fat ass kicked out of congress and sent to JAIL.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:52 PM
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15. Oh gawd.
please never type the words "tom delay" and "dong" in the same sentence ever again.

;-)

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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:11 PM
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44. Frog March Delay! Frog March Delay!
We got 'dem all doin' 'da Frog March.!
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:59 PM
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3. I think the dominos are in place and ready to fall!
All their dirty shit couldn't stay hidden forever.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:00 PM
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4. The Republicans did not take over Texas politics
Big Money, Corporations and Fundamentalists did, and they found a door through the Republican Party.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:29 PM
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10. Yes, but who are "big money", "corporations" and the "fundies"?
Republicans, my friend, Republicans.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:41 AM
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25. To clarify the point
The few and the loud have taken over, this is not going to last!
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:10 PM
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39. Fascists or Corporatists
The people we have running my state are not really repubs, which is why Bill Ratliff is retiring this year. A repub with an actual conscience can't stand the fascist SOBs who've taken over the Texas repub party.

And I almost feel sorry for the fundies. They are merely the foot soldiers, and their issues get mostly lip service. After all, abortion is still legal here. And the fundies even disagree with the fascists on many issues- they even banded together with trial lawyers, consumer groups and unions to oppose the tort reform bill passed by the Lege.

We really are seeing a melding of corporate and governmental interests that rises to the level of a political theorist's definition of fascism. (I'm not speaking of fascists for the Nazi-Hitler association, but as a real political ideology). The repub party in my state has been taken over by the corporate wing of the repub party, and it should be a warning to the rest of the nation of just how much worse things could be on the national scale. And will be if we don't get Shrub out.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:45 PM
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46. Thank you lastliberalintexas for conferming my point
In the lovely state of California here we had have our own problems with corporations taking over. This was not pretty. It resulted in traffic accidents, multi-billon dollar loss of taxpayer’s money, a loss of business, people losing their jobs, companies moving out of the state and etc. All that happened was the electricity was purposely turned-off.

Then there is our governor and a media thing.
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Torrey Pines Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:01 PM
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5. There should be a presumption of guilt
when you're talking about politics in Texas. ;-)
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:36 PM
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21. ROFLMAO!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:03 PM
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6. "Authorities"? What "authorities"?????
Who is left outside this takeover to investigate????
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:04 PM
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7. Here's what the Times says
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 09:06 PM by Newsjock
Republican leaders said they worked with attorneys who specialize in election law to ensure that their corporate money was used legally. They denied wrongdoing and point out that the force behind the investigation, Travis County, Texas, District Attorney Ronnie Earle, is a Democrat.

... Earle, who has been in office for 27 years, said he is aware of claims that the probe is motivated by partisan politics. But he said he has brought charges against 15 politicians over the years: Eleven of them, he said, were Democrats. He called the financing of the 2002 election ``the greatest threat to democracy I've ever seen.''

... Sources close to the investigation said that as many as 20 people, including several of Austin's power brokers, have appeared before two grand juries as prosecutors push for indictments. Most, including Hammond, have retained criminal attorneys. The sources said at least two people, including the former director of Texans for a Republican Majority, John Colyandro, have been granted limited immunity in exchange for testimony.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:57 PM
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16. Immunity already granted?
This sounds pretty serious. I'm on the verge of getting VERY VERY happy about this story.

Earle looks credible from this snip, huh?
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Desperadoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:00 PM
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20.  Texas, District Attorney Ronnie Earle
Wonder if he's related to Steve?
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LiberalTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:38 PM
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33. Ronnie Earle...
What else do we know about him, TX DUers? Since I'm still relatively new to Texas politics, I'd like to know more about him. It's nice to know that we've got some BALLS here in Texas-- unlike our so-called leaders in Washington who talk big at election time but don't put Bush to task.

Ronnie Earle being accused of partisan politics.....uh, DUH! Republicans aren't too bright, are they? Of course it's partisan. Haven't these people ever heard of checks and balances? It's called an opposition! What the hell is wrong with THAT? Bunch of big, friggin' cry babies...
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:15 PM
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40. Actually Earle isn't that partisan
when it comes to the prosecutions by his office. He is the one who went after Jim Mattox and got an indictment (tho I think a jury acquitted him?), and Mattox is a big time Dem. Earle probably isn't perfect (he's human, after all), but he has shown a great deal of integrity in office.

If Earle goes after someone, you can bank on there being a reason. Not saying anyone is definitely guilty before proven so, but Earle isn't one to wage partisan wars in the guise of criminal prosecutions.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #6
38. Asscroft himself had similar "transgressions" during his campaigning.
They slapped his wrist and he slapped his knee.
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MariaS Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:11 PM
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8. Delay
would make some lucky prisoner a wonderful Bitch.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:32 PM
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11. Did you see Sexy Beast? Remember that black-haired bad guy?
That scene with him on all fours while the rich guy gave it to him? I said, "Gawd, he looks like Tom Delay!"

We can only hope, but so far he hasn't been hurt too much by the Westar scandal either.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:44 PM
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23. Yeah - and there are documents proving the Westar dealings.
Tom DeLay, getting De-Layed in prison by a group of large men - now THAT'S a late Christmas present!

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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:36 PM
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12. I just sent this out to a list of folks here in the Houston area...
and I used an old email "reply to all" to send it. I forgot to change the subject line. Funny thing is, it was still sooooooo appropriate. The subject line was PAR-TAY!!!!!! LOL! and that is what I'll be doing if that SOB ever gets what's coming to him!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:44 PM
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13. LOL
:evilgrin:
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Unforgiven Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:45 PM
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14. Can't Wait!
Won't be soon enuf'
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:42 PM
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22. Hopefully
there wil be NO DeLay. (sorry)

(Thanks for the setup btw :) )
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:08 PM
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17. delay is a most objectionable form of profanity.
One way to help evict him.

http://www.takingontomdelay.com/
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:25 PM
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18. Is this a good precedent?
I've just read what was posted here, so maybe I'm missing something...


... But if financing GOTV phone banks is automatically a political contribution, what happens to the tens of MILLIONS of dollars were getting from workers unions?

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:21 PM
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41. No, what they did
was use actual corporate money for their mailings, etc. While a corporation's employees can donate to political matters, it is illegal to use the money of the corporation for any political reason in Texas. They could have funneled this money to the repub efforts in a different and entirely legal way, but they were either too arrogant or too stupid to do so.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:32 PM
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19. The Dong Show

reminder of the good ole days of Spring 03

you have to scroll a little down the page to get to this one, and more follow about the events at that time.

talkingpointsmemo from May 03 on the Texas mess.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/old/may0304.html

After the initial squall over the manhunt for the Texas Democrats, state Representative Lon Burnam -- a member of the Law Enforcement Committee -- filed an open records request for documents relevant to the Department of Public Safety's manhunt. After hearing news reports that files were being destroyed even after the issuance of that request, he filed a motion for, and eventually received, a restraining order barring further document destruction. Burnam also subsequently filed a motion to depose four members of the DPS.

In response to Burnam's request, the Texas Attorney General's office -- acting on behalf of the DPS -- demanded that Burnam reveal the names of his sources (i.e., those at DPS who had squealed) before any members of the DPS would be deposed.

"It is not possible," says the AG's filing, "to prepare for the preliminary injunction hearing or to prepare for the defense of depositions until Plaintiff identifies the source of the information that documents were allegedly destroyed after the receipt of the open records request on May 19th, 2003."

(A copy of the Texas AG's motion has just been added to the TPM Document Collection.)
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 09:51 AM
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28. The Texas Two-Step
This has been going on for some time, here are some older links to stories.

http://www.tpj.org/press_releases/itemized_trm.html

Contribution statement This one link shows how these pillars of political fairness cooked the books.

http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/002758.html
<snip>
TRM fundraiser paid with corporate money
Remember how the Texans for a Republican Majority PAC, the one that helped elect a bunch of new Republicans to the state House so that Tom DeLay's redistricting do-over could be rammed through, claimed that they'd only ever used corporate money for overhead and not for campaign funds? Turns out that ain't necessarily so.

Texans for a Republican Majority has always offered a simple defense to allegations that it illegally used corporate money to help elect state legislators last year: No corporate dollars directly benefited candidates.

However, an Austin fund-raiser hired by the political action committee said that wasn't always so. Consultant Susan Lilly, whom the committee paid with corporate money, confirmed this week that she solicited, collected and distributed campaign donations in the name of individual campaigns for Republican candidates.

One-page documents that the committee gave to would-be donors at several fund-raising events, including ones headlined by U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, said: "Contributions should be made to TRMPAC or directly to `(name of candidate) for State Legislature' and mailed to: 1005 Congress, Suite 310, Austin, Texas 78701." The address is that of Lilly & Co.

Separate documents were created for each of the two dozen campaigns that Texans for a Republican Majority was involved in. The briefings included an assessment of the race, the advantages of the Republican candidates and what the candidates needed to do to win. It also included an e-mail address for contacting the candidates.
<snip>

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2003-05-23/pols_feature4.html
<snip>
05/23/03

Six months after the Republican Party captured the Texas House of Representatives in a stunning election-night landslide, the question lingers: Was the victory fair and square?

Your answer may depend, in large part, on whether you're an R or a D. Republicans cheerfully acknowledge that their campaign umbrella groups procured millions from corporate benefactors, but insist that, as required by law, they kept corporate money separate from their direct political activities.

The PAC efforts were greatly responsible for garnering 26 House seats for GOP freshmen and were particularly generous with Austin candidates Todd Baxter and Jack Stick, winners in tight races. Former Travis Co. Commissioner Baxter defeated Democratic Dist. 48 incumbent Ann Kitchen, who faced two major disadvantages -- a newly drawn Republican district and a flood of GOP money. After beating Democrat James Sylvester in narrowly Republican Dist. 50, freshman Stick was rewarded with a coveted appointment to the all-powerful Appropriations Committee.

In all, 11 freshmen scored vice-chair positions on key committees from new Speaker Tom Craddick, who had House seniority rules changed to accommodate the appointments -- partly to promote inexperienced but loyal GOP reps to key positions and partly to bar experienced Democratic reps from the same seats.

Five major campaign organizations helped promote and underwrite newly minted GOP candidates. Public-interest watchdogs charge that at least two of the groups -- Texans for a Republican Majority and the Texas Association of Business -- may have illegally utilized corporate money to clinch control of the House.
<snip>

http://www.dailysentinel.com/hp/content/coxnet/texas/legislature/0303/0322tab.html

<snip>
2 granted limited immunity in inquiry over campaign ads

Saturday, March 22, 2003

Travis County prosecutors are reaching into the Capitol hallways as they investigate whether corporate money was used illegally to influence last year's legislative elections.

John Colyandro, the former executive director of the Texans for a Republican Majority political action committee, has refused to testify before a Travis County grand jury, invoking his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination.

Lara Laneri Keel, a former lobbyist for the Texas Association of Business, also has appeared before the grand jury.

On Friday, both were given limited immunity and ordered to testify. Keel's lawyer and Colyandro did not return calls for comment Friday night. By forcing Colyandro to testify, prosecutors might go down at least two tracks of questioning in the private grand jury proceedings.

They could investigate whether the business association illegally subsidized political activities when it gave Texans for a Republican Majority an ad created by the business association's public relations consultant.

Last month, Colyandro said he created the ad, although the business association's public relations consultant, Chuck McDonald, said he created it for his client. McDonald said Hammond told him to change the ad's logo from Texas Association of Business to the Republican Majority PAC before mailing it. Hammond has refused to comment on that. Keel, the other person granted immunity Friday, worked as a lobbyist for the business association through last year. She is the wife of John Keel, executive director of the Legislative Budget Board. John Keel is the cousin of state Rep. Terry Keel, R-Austin.

In giving Lara Keel limited immunity, the prosecutors wrote that the agreement is not intended to imply she committed any criminal offense.
<snip>

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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:29 AM
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24. LINK TO FULL STORY HERE
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:46 AM
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26. Okay, I read the story, but don't get your hopes up.
They will probably just fine people, and bury the story on the back pages of the corporate whore newspapers.
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aQuArius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:32 PM
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32. Yes, all they'll get is a slap on the hand, if that.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:39 AM
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27. nothing will come of the investigation
the parties involved MIGHT get a slap on the wrist but I doubt it will go that far

money talks
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:02 PM
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29. This snip made me optimistic-
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 12:03 PM by party_line
"Sources close to the investigation said they are looking at several aspects of Texans for a Republican Majority's finances.

They said, for instance, that the group reported one batch of finances to the Texas Ethics Commission, but a different set of numbers to the IRS."
-----------------------------

Once IRS numbers are involved, stuff usually gets serious. And one guy already GOT immunity- that wouldn't happen if they weren't ready to bring charges.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:04 PM
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30. Every time I'm reminded that there IS a Texas Ethics Commission,
I get the giggles!

Nobody giggles the IRS, though!
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. Read this damn link
http://www.tpj.org/press_releases/itemized_trm.html

It's black and white, they COOKED THE DAMN BOOKS.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #36
45. El Paso Energy has the
highest kilowatts rate in the state in 2000.
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aQuArius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:30 PM
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31. Its about GAWD DAM time!
I could have told you this, I hope all of them go to jail.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:10 PM
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35. Don't hold your breath
At best I would hope for some fines and mild wrist slapping. Perhaps someone will have to write "I must not use illegal corporate donations" a hundred times on a blackboard.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:52 PM
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34. Texas wants to be a country of its own
They play by different rules in this state and are very proud of this fact. I still marvel that DeLay's background has not caused him to be voted out....do they even know his history?
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:25 PM
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37. good riddance. let them take Bush and Baker and DeLay
and create The Christian State of Texas. let all the fundies migrate there to have their theocratic state, and leave the rest of us the hell alone to get on with actually building a democracy and rescuing this country from their corruption.

I hate these people with the same hatred the founders felt for the tyranny of the corruption of that other mad king george.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:37 PM
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42. I dunno raindog...
The Independent Christian State of Texas just might might find it necessary to invade the rest of us in the name of regime change !
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:38 PM
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43. Repugs say lawsuit "politically motivated"...well,
(from the article)

I think it is definitely politically motivated. And I think it is without merit," said Bill Hammond, a former Republican member of the Texas House of Representatives.

Hammond's business and lobbying organization, which is based in Austin and known as TAB, is another focus of the investigation. According to TAB's newsletter, it spent nearly $2 million to mail Texas voters 4 million advertisements that attacked Democratic candidates and supported Republicans.

Damn right it's politically motivated! And it's got merit. Repugs want to keep winning elections in the courts? Bring it on! The judicial tide is turning.

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 09:16 PM
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47. Read It In the LA Times This Morning With My Coffee.
Tom Delay is the face of the Republican Party.
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