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aeon flux Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:52 AM
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Knoller, convicted in dog mauling, released from prison
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 02:53 AM by aeon flux
I really dislike this judge.

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...Marjorie Knoller, convicted of involuntary manslaughter along with her husband in the dog mauling death of a San Francisco neighbor, was released from prison Thursday after serving more than half of a four-year sentence, a television station reported.

...Knoller and Noel, 62, were convicted in the January 2001 death of Diane Whipple, 33, a neighbor who was attacked in the hallway of their apartment building by the couple's two mammoth presa canarios. Knoller was handling the dogs at the time and left Whipple mortally wounded without calling 911.

..."The time she served seems disturbingly short in light of the jury's verdict, Marjory Knoller's own extreme recklessness and the way in which Diane Whipple died," Hammer said.

We're appealing the judge's reduction in charges. If we prevail, she (Knoller) would be remanded to the trial court in San Francisco for re-sentencing," Jordan said.


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lpricanprynces Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:02 AM
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1. Conditions?
I heard on the news that the judge ordered her to stay away from her husband, or face being locked up again. While the death of Diane Whipple was tragic, what does Marjorie seeing her husband have to do with it? I could see a restriction from owning dogs or such, but how can a judge tell you that you can't see your own husband?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:00 AM
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5. he was a party in the crime
it wouldn't be any different from banning contact between gang members or something along those lines

it's completely reasonable

anyway, there's a whole more going on than just the murder of Dianne Whipple

read up on the case and the circumstances

it's pretty sordid
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aeon flux Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:10 AM
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2. What I don't understand

how can she not be guilty of murder if she didn't even call 911?

This judge is a total moron for throwing out the jury's verdict of 2nd degree murder. A gross miscarriage of justice. I hope the prosecution wins the appeal.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:54 AM
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4. It's because she didn't intend to kill anyone
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 03:58 AM by depakote_kid
Negligence- even gross negligence or recklessness- doesn't support a murder conviction. The judge did the right thing under the law, even more so because he knew he'd end up taking a lot of heat for it. Those types of judges are increasingly rare these days and should be commended, irrespective of whether we emotionally agree with their decision in any given case.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:24 AM
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3. Absolutely Outrageous
what's the name of the 12 year old that copied wrestling on TV
and accidently killed another child ...

How long did that child get ?

this women should not of recieved less time than a child .
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militarymanusaf Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:10 AM
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6. Lionel Tate
Not only that, but his case is being retried. Unsuccessful in finding a link or the details.
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aeon flux Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:38 AM
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7. Ok
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 04:44 AM by aeon flux
"Negligence- even gross negligence or recklessness- doesn't support a murder conviction"

This wasn't just gross negligence, it was gross willfull negligence that lead to someone's death. What if you run over someone with your car and fail to even call for help when the phone is nearby, and that person dies? That's gotta be worth way more than a slap on the wrist.

Because a simple phone call probably would have saved Diane's life.

I'm not a lawyer, but I strongly feel this judge is dead wrong, morally and legally.



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