Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest

[GliderGuider]

Source: CBC

The provincial police, in a news release, said its officers went undercover to identify and stop non-peaceful protesters.

"In no time did the police of the Sûreté du Québec act as instigators or commit criminal acts," the news release states in French.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html

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*giggle*
I just LOVE it when translators slip up -- Freudianly speaking.

[Richard Steele]

1. Too bad for them that the FILM shows what they were really trying to do. nm

[sasquatch]

16. As Richard Pryor once said "Now who you going to believe me or your lying eyes"

[tanyev]

2. Link to original thread. Awesome!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2962268

[glitch]

3. That translation is a thing of beauty. Thanks for posting. K & R nt

[rcsl1998]

4. Acknowledge One Aspect, Lie About Another...

The 'undercover officers' were the only ones instigating criminal acts and were caught red randed (rock handed?) on the video posted to You Tube.

[cheddar99]

5. Fascist

Pigs, we saw what they were doing with our own eyes.

[file83]

18. Yup - The cops disguised as "protesters" were holding rocks in their hands...

...gee, I wonder what they were planning on doing.

These cops should get arrested and who ever ordered this mission - for attempted assault and attempting to instigate a riot.

I mean, that is what they were doing.

[Divine Discontent]

6. so the people need to yell for the police chief to step down

b/c this was admittedly planned - and - they had rocks in hand and were trying to stir things up


we were right (but you'd have to have blinders on to not have seen that, or be part of the bad group who infiltrate groups for the neocons - but I won't get into those people - their comments speak for themselves)

great to see their translator screw this up and put "in NO time" they were being bad - it took mere Seconds! ahhahahaaha

[rateyes]

7. whodathunkit?

:sarcasm:

[Xithras]

8. Ah, so the big rock in the officers hand was just his way of saying hello.

I get it :eyes:

[hvn_nbr_2]

10. Is that rock in your hand a weapon or are you just saying you're happy to see me? nt

[backscatter712]

9. Those provocateurs should go to prison.

As should their commanders, and every single person up the chain of command in that police force that had anything to do with thi.

They think it's some sort of college prank, but those provocateurs could have sparked violence that could have killed people. KILLED. People can die when sprayed with pepper spray or tear gas, or shot with rubber bullets, or zapped with tasers, or struck with batons.

They deliberately and premeditatedly tried to turn a non-violent demonstration into a violent altercation. They should be counting their lucky stars that they failed at this.

Moral of the story? Every single person who attends any street demonstration or protest needs to bring a camera with them, even if it's just a cell phone camera. Every time the police use tactics like this, they need to be captured on video, and those videos should be broadcast on the Internet.

[go west young man]

15. Believe me they don't think it's some kind of college prank.

They know exactly what they are using it for. It's to manipulate and control protest against their evil deeds. It's proof that our governments will go to any lengths they can to keep control. It's a gestapo tactic. You would expect it in Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, or Mao's China. But you would not expect it in the U.S. or Canada. It's a sign of how far we have gone in the wrong direction when the police we pay taxes for are using these tactics against "We The People."

[DCKit]

19. Agreed, and half the group needs to stand back and document the "proceedings".

Been there, done it, been banged over the head. This shit has gone on long enough.

Anyone who continues to believe this is tin-hat BS needs to see the video, read the comments then read the "one day later" excuse. If they still don't believe what goes on at the rallies, march them down to the nearest recruiting office and tell them they're signing up for a FABULOUS beachside condo.

[bemildred]

11. Cops should NEVER be allowed to lie about who they are. nt

[superconnected]

12. Thanks for posting this!

[Junkdrawer]

13. Bwhaaaaa......

It's the old "We were just trying to stop the bad guys" defense. You know, like the middle aged guys that say they were just trying to help the wayward teen when they get busted trying to consummate an online love affair with an under-aged girl.

[saildude]

14. Hey good point about taking cameras to events like these

I did see a couple still photographers but did not see any other video cameras except in the hands of the police.

Cameras are small enough and cheap enough that every one who can should take them to events and public demonstrations.

It really is our best form of protection against these tactics and to bring to light our governments actions against its own citizens.

Oops- meant to post above

[backscatter712]

20. Absolutely! Everyone needs a camera now.

Everybody who participates in protests, rallies or demonstrations needs to bring a recording device. Ideally, a camcorder with audio, so we can get videos like the one of the SPP provocateurs. But anything is better than nothing. Camera-phones are great - I have mine with me all the time. If all else fails, get a $10 disposable camera.

Don't listen to the bastards who tell you photographing police is against the PATRIOT Act or other bullshit like that. It's not. They can invent excuses and criminal charges, but they can't catch everyone photographing police abuse, and all it takes is one person to get away with a good shot, and it'll be on Youtube and all over the net.

Let me say that again. EVERYBODY SHOULD BRING A CAMERA TO PROTEST EVENTS. EVERYONE!

[suffragette]

17. But officer, I just had the rock in my hand to keep everything peaceful.

Yeah, something like that would go over well by someone who wasn't an undercover cop.

I'm glad the genuine protesters outed them and glad it looks like they'll keep pressing to demand the truth and justice.

[Tempest]

21. The police are lying their asses off

From the story:

Police said the three were told to monitor protesters who were not peacefully demonstrating to prevent any violent incidents, but they were called out as undercover agents when they refused to throw objects.

No objects were thrown by the protesters and the only one with an object in his hands in the video was the cop.

[Judi Lynn]

23. That's so underhanded, isn't it? They can only sell that to people who HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO.

The evidence leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever the only people there who were acting strange were the three idiots from the police department, somewhat disguised as "trouble making protesters."

BALONEY! They have disgraced themselves if they only had the intelligence to recognize it.

[Barrett808]

22. "They were called out as undercover agents when they refused to throw objects."

Wow. That's like when George Tenet told Scott Pelley that the "US does not torture."

[redwitch]

24. Fascism lives.

I am not surprised, but I am disgusted.

[jpgray]

25. Where are those DUers that kept coming up with excuses for the obvious circumstantial evidence?

I'd like to hear their thoughts on this.

[Judi Lynn]

26. Ah, yes. That was memorable. Glad you brought it up! Here's that link,

for a good laugh!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2962268



He/she who laughs last, laugheth best.

[Occulus]

27. I was just about to ask the exact same question

Why is it, almost every single time we see a thread about something that just doesn't smell right- the Duke rape case, anyone?- we have a gaggle of silly geese waddle out and peck us to death with their "wait for all the facts" spiel?

People, it's not very hard to put two and two together. That they were willing to do this even though that original thread has photos only shows how desperate some people are to presume police aren't in the wrong on any such given topic.

Do these people never learn their lesson, that if there's smoke, there's probably fire? And why are they always so willing to believe that the people who were wronged by Authority aren't telling the whole story?

Could they possibly be.. :think: Authoritarians?

Hmmmm...

[SayWhatYo]

28. I'm usually pretty skeptical about things like this, but I don't see how anyone could deny what was

going on in that video. I mean, it's very clear that these cops were up to no good. The only other explanation would be that the protesters all had some large conspiracy against the police force, but I find that very very hard to believe.

I really don't see any way to justify this or explain it away.