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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:24 AM
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Military cites risk of abuse by CIA
Source: Boston Globe

New Bush rules on detainees stir concern
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | August 25, 2007

WASHINGTON -- Top military lawyers have told senators that President Bush's new rules for CIA interrogations of suspected terrorists could allow abuses that violate the Geneva Conventions, according to Senate and military officials.

The Judge Advocates General of all branches of the military told the senators that a July 20 executive order establishing rules for the treatment of CIA prisoners appeared to be carefully worded to allow humiliating or degrading interrogation techniques when the interrogators' objective is to protect national security rather than to satisfy sadistic impulses.

The JAGs expressed their concerns at a meeting late last month with Senators John Warner of Virginia, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and an aide representing John McCain of Arizona, who could not attend because he was campaigning for president. All three senators are Republicans who have been key proponents of laws banning the abuse of detainees, and have vowed to monitor the Bush administration's treatment of prisoners.

The top JAG for the US Army, Major General Scott C. Black, followed up on the meeting this month by sending a memo to lower-ranking soldiers reminding them that Bush's executive order applies only to the CIA, not to military interrogations. Black told soldiers they must follow Army regulations, which "make clear that the minimum humane treatment standard" for prisoners.

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Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/25/military_cites_risk_of_abuse_by_cia/
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 08:33 AM
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1. "to satisfy sadistic impulses"
... the interrogators' objective is to protect national security rather than to satisfy sadistic impulses.

If it's one thing republicans, bush and his supporters are all about, it's "sadistic impulses."
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 08:44 AM
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2. Does this one (on American citizens... no First Amendment anymore?)
"qualify" as "minimum humane treatment standard" or not??


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Those who blow whistle on contractor fraud in Iraq face penalties
DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer

~snip~

For daring to report illegal arms sales, Navy veteran Donald Vance says he was imprisoned by the American military in a security compound outside Baghdad and subjected to harsh interrogation methods.

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Spread the word? Anyone? (For Congress Hearings... On Impeachment...)

K&R

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 04:29 PM
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3. Sounds like torture to me
:wtf: is right
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