Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Sarkozy tells Iran it faces attack over atomic program

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:25 PM
Original message
Sarkozy tells Iran it faces attack over atomic program
Source: International Herald Tribune

PARIS - In his first major foreign policy speech since taking office, President Nicolas Sarkozy said Monday that Iran could be attacked militarily if it did not live up to its international obligations to curb its nuclear program.

Addressing the French ambassadorial corps, Sarkozy stressed that such an outcome would be a disaster. He did not say that France would ever participate in military action against Iran or even tacitly support such an approach.

But the mere fact that he raised the specter of the use of force is quite likely to be perceived by Iran as a warning of the consequences of its actions.

Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/27/europe/france.php
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. Oh my goodness is France going to attack Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I wonder how Sarko would feel if France were threatened with bombs
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 12:57 PM by downstairsparts
Because of its nuclear program.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Good point. The "nuclear club" is nauseating.
The NPT is just a weapon used to beat up on the developing countries that do not have the self-defense capacity to deter threats against it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. While dear old Libya is soon to join nuclear club with backing of Sarkozy
Recall Sarko recently traded Libya the nurse hostages for hundred of millions of euros worth of weapons and will be providing Libya nuclear technology to get its program going.

Does anybody outside of France take this showbiz clown seriously?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Libya doesn't want nuclear weapons.
I think this was in regards to nuclear power. The interesting thing about Qaddhafi these days is how he is now in such good graces with Western leaders. Apparently, it's been decided that he's a secular force they want to maintain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. Iran doesn't want nuclear weapons either, they say officially
But if I were them I'd want them too, for protection.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpikeTss Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. They'll find a way to make it a weapon

Just like they found a way to press half a billion dollars from the West
by kidnapping nurses and doctors.
And like they found a way to blow up airliners and discotheques without
facing real consequences for it.
I'm pretty sure that the radioactive substances they'll use will find their
way into dirty bombs or even nuclear bombs directed against the US or any
other nation the Libyans will terrorize next.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Reagan's terror bombings of Libya were a "consequence."
Did not Libyan blood get shed by US bombs under the Reagan presidency. I'm sure there's more than one Libyan who's owed a certain debt from those criminal and immoral bombings.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. There is no "untapped" oil to steal by the neocons' cronies in France
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #2
16. LOL Perfect. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. I understand that we do not need more nuclear countries in the world but..
It seems like it would mean more coming from say Switzerland or Venezuela, you know someone that doesn't have nukes. A nuclear country threaten military action only sounds hypocritical and like a threat to use nukes, which would scare a non-nuclear country into trying to get them to protect themselves. Just a thought.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
6. Did anyone actually read anything but the headline?
Anyone?

"Addressing the French ambassadorial corps, Sarkozy stressed that such an outcome would be a disaster. He did not say that France would ever participate in military action against Iran or even tacitly support such an approach."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. I didn't have to read more than the headline. The entire world
knows what the sick dic-k and his "followers" R up to... and scared (because of what these mofos did to both Iraq and the U.S.), so Sarko saying the sickos plan to attack and murder thousands of innocents because they can is not LBN to anyone in the rest of the world. That said, a big majority of that rest of the world still oppose such another crime against humanity in the making. But the "who cares what they think" war criminal is not rotting in jail yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. I'm referring to the people who think France will join the US in bombs away.
But hey. Whatever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. I think they 'forgot' to add the :sarcasm: tag.
Sarko may be 'leaning' right-wing, but he ain't no Mussolini...

France is still #1 on the list of 'single-payer public-health care' countries.

Not too many of his constituents would 'forgive' him if he'd make such a faux pas...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:29 PM
Response to Original message
10. He has many of the same stances that Chirac had, but..
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 01:29 PM by mvd
the message is different. He's willing to be an apologist and make friends with those countries (like the USA) that have abused their power in the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:44 PM
Response to Original message
11. Let France take care of this one.
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 01:44 PM by Deep13
We've destroyed any international goodwill we had.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
14. Yes, it would be a disaster
the nuclear fallout resulting from such an attack could not only devastate huge portions of Iran but could effect numerous countries downwind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
18. Iran tells France it faces attack over its atomic program -n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
20. France may not help out in an attack on Iran
But matter of fact talk like this tends to legitimize such endeavors by aggressors. Imagine if the president of France had been warning Poland to watch out for itself in 1939, instead of telling Hitler to back off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
21. Somehow all this seems so bizarre. Like france threatening Iran
with war...oh wait.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
22. Sarkozy also took a shot at China
...He criticized Beijing's management of its currency, which he says is too low and gives it an unfair advantage on export markets. He said China and other developing powers Mexico, South Africa, Brazil and India should eventually join the Group of Eight (G8) industrialized nations to become the G13.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3442638,00.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
23. does this mean the cons have to stop hating france?
NT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:17 AM
Response to Original message
24. Sarkozy doesn't support attacking Iran...
he mentioned it as a (disastrous) possibility.

If he tried to drag the French into an unnecessary war, they'd probably revive the guillotine just for him, and he knows it. Iran could be attacked, but not by France.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:48 AM
Response to Original message
25. French President Cautions Against Attacking Iran In Standoff Over Tehran's Nuclear Program
Source: Associated Press

PARIS – French President Nicolas Sarkozy warned Monday that it would be “catastrophic” to resort to military force in confronting Iran over its suspect nuclear program.

“For me, Iran having a nuclear weapon is unacceptable,” Sarkozy said in his first major address on foreign policy, but he stressed that he opposed an attack on the Islamic regime and urged that the West rely on diplomacy.

He said Iran can choose between dialogue with the international community or more U.N. sanctions. “This tactic is the only one that allows us to escape from a catastrophic alternative: an Iranian bomb, or the bombing of Iran,” he said.

Sarkozy also said Iran is entitled to use nuclear power for civilian needs, such as generating electricity. If countries like Iran run out of fossil fuels, and “if they don't have the right to the energy of the future, then we will create conditions of misery and underdevelopment, and therefore an explosion of terrorism,” Sarkozy said.



Read more: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070827-1218-france-sarkozy.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. Remember first Iran, then France.
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. The DoD has wargamed this and it was a failure
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 08:05 PM by EVDebs
and in Atlantic Monthly, James Fallows article shows an impromptu wargaming came to the same conclusion,

"About America's military options there is almost as clear a view. In circumstances of all-out war the United States could mount an invasion of Iran if it had to. If sufficiently provoked—by evidence that Iran was involved in a terrorist incident, for example, or that it was fomenting violence in Iraq—the United States could probably be effective with a punitive bomb-and-missile attack on Revolutionary Guard units.

But for the purposes most likely to interest the next American President—that is, as a tool to slow or stop Iran's progress toward nuclear weaponry—the available military options are likely to fail in the long term."

Will Iran Be Next ?
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200412/fallows

And counter-measures by Iran,

Iran Announces 2.000 Pound 'Smart' Bomb
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-08-23-iran-bomb_N.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #25
28. What's he hearing . . .. ????? !!! ???? -----------------?????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. Scarbough today said the country would go along with bush
He and Nutso Buchanan said that the country would appreciate the fact that bush invades Iran. And that the democrats in this country would jump on the bandwagon and support the strikes also.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. The Democrats would jump on the bandwagon for lack of a spine...
and lack of a willingness to stand up to Bush. The public will be outraged and disgusted. The media will cheerlead for the president, of course.
:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #25
31. Oh. so France can have the Bomb, but Iran can't
International politics is so hypocritical, it just literally makes me physically sick. Why does the US say Iran can't have the Bomb? Because they might use it, like we do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #25
32. I, for one, am glad to hear him say this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #25
33. Good for him!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #25
34. In every eventuality,
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 05:33 AM by Beerboy
it's unacceptable to attack Iran.
I thought Sarkozy was a right-wing nut job at first, the way American conservative pundits celebrated his election, but Sarkozy is at least sane. Any attack on Iran is unacceptable.
Iran is a sovereign nation just like France, Germany, or the United States. Why does Iran have to clear their strategic defense capabilities with the United States?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:41 AM
Response to Original message
35. * has a new poodle. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 12:34 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC