California Assembly votes to put Iraq pullout measure on ballot

[RamboLiberal]

Source: SF Gate.com/AP

Putting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in a tight political position, the state Assembly voted Monday to place a measure on California's Feb. 5 ballot urging President Bush to immediately withdraw American troops from Iraq.

The 43-32 roll call left the proposal one step from Schwarzenegger's desk. It was sent back to the Senate, which approved a slightly different version of the bill in June.

Final approval by the Senate would send the bill to the Republican governor, who could risk angering members of his own party by signing it and putting it on the presidential primary ballot or veto the bill and draw the wrath of the war's opponents.

The bill, by Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, D-Oakland, asks voters if Bush should "achieve the immediate, complete, safe and orderly withdrawal of United States forces" from Iraq.



Read more: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/27/state/n175944D67.DTL&tsp=1

[fed-up]

1. proud to be the 5th rec and from California native nt

[Pachamama]

2. I pray this will make it on the ballot and I will be proud to vote against this illegal war!

:kick:

I wonder what Arnold will do???? :eyes:

[Auggie]

3. Love it!

[comtec]

4. *swoon* I LOVE my legislature!

this is fucking BRILLIANT!!!!!
With the way things are right now this is a NO LOOSE proposition (no pun intended). if he Signs, he looses, we win and our position is legitimized. If he rejects it the legislature will openly dissent! and it get put on the ballot
OMFG this of the NATIONAL COVERAGE!!!! I just wish OTHER legislatures would have the stones to follow California's lead!

[roody]

5. Proud of my adopted state!!!

[shadowknows69]

6. What impact will this really have though?

What the Governator and the other state chief executives need to do is take a stand on national guard troops from their states and refuse to deploy them. Bush wouldn't be able to sustain the war without a draft.

[harun]

12. Great idea on the National Guard, imagine if they could

get something like that on the ballot. It would be HUGE.

[Maryland Liberal]

7. Go High or Go Home

We already have the power to force a withdrawl = the congress can cut off funding

[cheddar99]

8. California has done a

few things right lately, this is one of them. Normally I would say that California leadership is sadly lacking in many areas, including the housing bubble, but green energy and a swift withdrawal from Iraq makes me proud to give them the floor.

[ProudDad]

16. The California Legislature

in spite of being hamstrung by that god-awful prop 13, has passed a LOT of good legislation.

Unfortunately, a series of repuke governors, one right-wing fuck of a DINO and now the gropensteroidenfuhrer keep vetoing the best legislation...

[Just-plain-Kathy]

9. Am I alone in thinking that any political action to stop the war in Iraq....

...at this point is just grandstanding? ...Doesn't Bush now have the power to bring us into Iran without the support of our House and Senate? ....How many here think that we'll be in Iran before Bush needs to go back to Congress for more funds?

...I'm not saying what Arnold is doing isn't great...I just think he must know future wars are inevitable.

[harun]

13. I believe there is a zero percent chance they will do anything to Iran

Having the whole Middle East blow up before he leaves office isn't the way they want to go out. Posturing towards Iran is just trying to win support with AIPAC.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

19. I hope you're right.

I keep thinking that Bush and Cheney don't give a damn about us, their party, or whether or not we have a draft. ..As long as we're involved in a war, there'll be more and more money for the White House Mafia and their cronies.

[ProudDad]

15. The groppensteroidenfuhrer

does NOTHING GREAT unless you're one of the corporate capitalist masters -- he's great for BIG BUSINESS...

arnold is a fucking steroided-out liar...

He's a monsterous hypocrite...

he'll say he's for conservation and then drive out the best folks on the conservation board. He says he's for the people and vetoes Single-Payer Health care last year.

He's a total waste of skin...


You are correct in assuming that this resolution has no power to change anything other than publicity value.

Don't underestimate the publicity value...

[Joanie Baloney]

10. Yes!

Put it on the ballot and let's hear from We the People.

As goes California....so goes the nation.

:yourock: Perata!

JB

[drm604]

11. Are there enough votes to override a veto by the governor?

I don't know California law. Can the CA legislature override a veto? Do they have enough votes to do so?

[ProudDad]

14. I doubt that the groppensteroidenfuhrer

would veto it.

He thinks he's positioned to be the "new republican white hope" -- a "moderate" republican...ready to take over the remnants of the republican party after the neo-cons and theocrats leave it...



On Edit: Re; my Post #15 -- it's a lie that he's a "moderate" anything. the groppensteroidenfuhrer is a right-wing, hypocrite and lying fuck just like the rest of them. He just doesn't take it completely into the bedroom.

[LeftCoast]

17. Betcha he vetoes it

Hope I'm wrong, but I can't see him letting this pass his desk.

[ProudDad]

18. It is ironic

that he's screwed either way...