Bush says US Iraq troop cuts possible with success

[rodeodance]

Source: Source: Reuters


Bush says US Iraq troop cuts possible with success
03 Sep 2007 16:33:07 GMT
Source: Reuters


AL ASAD AIR BASE, Iraq, Sept 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush said on Monday his top officials in Iraq had told him the present level of security in Iraq could be maintained with fewer forces if current successes continued.

"General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker tell me if the kind of success we are seeing continues, it will be possible to maintain the same level of security with fewer American forces," Bush said.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03457950.htm

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But headline rather deceptive as He needs more time (and $$) for
Success!!

[Jacobin]

1. "current successes"

:rofl:


:rofl:

[Sagan]

2. Yeah... or rather, no. It won't.

Even the most basic review of the concepts of guerrilla wars and insurgencies will show you that when the occupying force masses many troops, insurgent activity will decrease in that area. It will move to other places or find other outlets for resistance.

When the occupier is satisfied at the lower levels of resistance and move troops elsewhere, then resistance will again flare up where it had previously been relatively dormant.

It's Guerrilla Warfare 101.

[BearSquirrel2]

3. I see ...

Bush has to start pulling down troop numbers. It's inevitable as there are too many Chickenhawks out there who believe in the war but will not fight it. The military is at the breaking point. Mark Warner's defection was the breaking point and Bush knows full well the Republican Senate contingent are just about to cut his balls off if he doesn't help them with their elections.

So before regretfully withdrawing troops, Bush will declare victory to spin the situation. That's all that's happening. What's regretful is that the psuedo-simian chickenhawks will believe him.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Yep--both John Warner and Sen. Shelby have suggested starting

troop withdrawal, only they were speaking in the context of failure, not success. It's widely acknowledged that we don't have the troops to sustain the surge past April '08 anyway--but Chimpster is going to paint withdrawal as a successful "mission accomplished" scenario. The only person he's fooling is himself, and that's because he's already a fool.

[rodeodance]

6. and the msm will play along with the RUSE

[karynnj]

32. We should play along too - but also lead him

congratulating him on having the courage, that others wouldn't have, to change the course when it is the right thing to do to be successful. Then we praise him for each, minuscule or not, diplomatic move - saying that he is a leader that other nations will follow and because of this he should go for the regional diplomacy that he can do. In other words co-op him to do what wiser minds suggested in 2003 when he first got us entangled in this nightmare.

Play to his arrogance and vanity to push him in the right direction.

[txwhitedove]

5. Bush may "talk" of drawing troops out of Iraq, but Gen. Pace...

just admitted, in substance, that defense contractors are "for profit, sure" and they increased production on tanks to be shipped "over here" to Iraq by January. Admittedly, I turned on CNN in the middle of Gen. Pace's speech, but it does not sound like winding down, or pulling out troups "if the kind of success we are seeing continues..."

[sendero]

7. More lies..

... and more lies and more lies. Who believes this liar any more?

Just more chess-strategy to prolong the profit. Nothing has been accomplished and nothing ever will be.

[peaches2003]

8. How the hell is that possible, Pres Liar?

We needed the 'surge' and then even more surge troops to keep this level of security (which in itself is an exaggeration). However, if troops are withdrawn how are you planning on keeping things as good as you say they are now if all these troops are necessary now?

[0rganism]

9. IOW, declare victory and leave -- I've been wondering when he'd get a clue

Since about week three of the Iraqupation, it's been pretty obvious that we would be unable to contain the ethnic violence and eventually do something like this. At this point, it's all about building back GOP cred for the 2008 election, W knows his party is in the deep shit over the Iraq war. He has to pull the military out of Iraq in order to redeploy them in Iran...

I love the ambiguity of this quote though: "if the kind of success we are seeing continues, it will be possible to maintain the same level of security with fewer American forces"

Could mean damn near anything, eh? Pretty clever wordsmithing, I wonder who wrote that line.

[alfredo]

20. That's what I was thinking.

[rodeodance]

10. Bush vows not to abandon Iraq

Source: Reuters





Bush vows not to abandon Iraq
03 Sep 2007 17:12:20 GMT
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, Sept 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush, on a surprise visit to Iraq, said on Monday the United States would not abandon the Iraqi people.

"America does not abandon its friends. America will not abandon the Iraqi people," Bush told troops in a speech televised in the United States.

Bush stopped in Iraq on his way to Sydney, where he was scheduled to arrive on Tuesday to attend a summit of Asia-Pacific leaders. He was traveling Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and national security adviser Steven Hadley. Defense Secretary Robert Gates arrived separately an hour earlier.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03341823.htm

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More Resolve. We are not leaving folks!

[whistle]

11. Have you heard why Bush will ultimately fail?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kjr_b4aAQk&mode=related&search=

[robinlynne]

12. I'm sure the Iraqi people were glad to hear that....

[Gregorian]

13. It's called date rape.

Abandon, my ass. Murderer.

Edit- I do believe a comma should go between abandon and my ass. But it's been ages since I attended an English course. In the meantime, I'll find a better way to express how I feel about the blatant misuse of the word "abandon", in this context. Bush is a murderer. That much is correct.

[Skittles]

28. comma needed

otherwise you'd be talking about abandoning your own backside

[TwilightGardener]

14. It's being predicted that Chimpster will start to withdraw some troops

pretty soon. It's all a matter of how many, how soon, and whether or not the remaining troops will have a change of mission--but it's coming. Maybe that's why Harry Reid is "olive-branching" with Repugs in the Senate right now. Congressional Dems don't look too alarmed at all the Petraeus GoodNews propaganda--I think it's because something is in the works. However, I doubt it will be enough of a withdrawal to make the left wing real happy.

[tom_paine]

15. Like a Wife Beater vowing "never to lit 'er go".

[krispos42]

16. So then he's staying there?

[zonmoy]

17. didn't think he would.

If you went to all the trouble to start a war on lies to steal their oil. would you abandon the oil you stole.

[lebkuchen]

18. Bush has abandoned the U.S.

Six years of his WH mismanagement has "earned" the U.S. 20th place out of 21, as the near worst country in the industrial world in which to be a child. The worst is the UK, and it's doing something about it: abandoning Iraq.

[truthisfreedom]

26. Translated: bush vows to abandon America

and do what darth Cheney wants.

[uppityperson]

19. Chocolate rations have been increased (1984)

[Donkeykick]

21. Oh No!

:eyes: not another mission accomplished-thing again!

[MadMaddie]

22. Yes indeed, and what's very interesting about this photo op

he had a black female, possibly hispanic, anglo and a couple of others directly behind him....

Yep another photo op......as only he can do.

[txwhitedove]

23. Yep, I noticed that, too. Suddenly he's very huggy with ...

people of color!?....

[BearSquirrel2]

24. Piles of rubbel ???

Ya know, theres LOTS of rubbel piles in Iraq. How come we've never seen Bush on top of one of those?

[HuffleClaw]

25. i suppose we'll hear in a couple of days how those pretty armoured vehicles

were shipped in for the occasion?

they really must be shit-scared of the coming report to bother with this stunt. well, not that i don't think this report won't be a pack of lies, but i think they know their lies won't stand up to any scrutiny. also, they are also likely fearing an 'iraqi tet' any day now.

[aquart]

27. Ah, the lying sack of shit speaks. And lies.

[Imagevision]

29. Bush know's presisely how to deal with the American people, suckers that we've become...

When Bush bombs Iran guaranteed the Americans will find out about it after it's over and Bush comes out to merely explain why it was necessary to kill a few more hundred thousand to protect the American people. This use to be a cool country to be from... now, we must think that because no suicide bombers are delivering their payloads to a local shopping mall near you that we have so much to be greatful for.

[Vinca]

30. What he meant was, "There's an election coming and I'm going

to start bringing troops home and lowering your gas prices, too. Now, get on out there and vote Republican so we can keep screwing you over."

[askeptic]

31. This is another stall tactic

What I read in this is that the war machine and profiteering will continue unabated. "IF...continued success" Riiight. He sells the idea that there's success and then gives another BS promise everyone wants to hear about withdrawing troops. We, who just fell off the turnip truck, will believe another promise? BS - Congress needs to find its courage and pull the plug on this - Now!

[Magleetis]

33. Pile on

the bullshit. The MSM plays right along every time. More lies, more bullshit, more of the same. We have seen this picture before.