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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:40 PM Original message |
Scientology faces criminal charges |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. All religions are cults to extract money from people |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Why is it bashing? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. My comment was tongue in cheek |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I got, and appreciated it... n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I have problems with most organized religions, but no similarity.... |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I see, it's the style or method of taking money that makes them different |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yes.. when it comes so close to extortion, yes. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I was pressured to give money to the Hare Krsnas |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Hare Krsnas? You think that is indicative of main stream church |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. It sure is |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Yes... I do not associate these tv charlatans with main stream |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
110. I wonder if there are any honest churches |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #110 |
134. When I was younger I went to a church that didn't do that. |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #134 |
151. Was it located in Arkansas? If so, see . . . |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:22 AM Response to Reply #151 |
166. Nope, Florida. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
188. Objectively, I doubt that Democrats are any better prepared for cult activity. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
132. Oral Roberts is not mainstream. nt |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
72. We do beg a lot in my church... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. I bet no one's accusing your church of intimidation and extortion. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
82. Usually they show up at your door with cybernetics.. I think that's the name of the book. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #82 |
104. "Dianetics". Cybernetics would be Norbert Wiener. nt |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Hahahaa you're correct, of course |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
138. well, they didn't give me a copy of that book. Yes Dianetics. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #104 |
183. ... and that would be a visit from the Borg. nt |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
111. Oh yeah, like the Mormon church and the Pentacostalist churches |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
123. QUAKERS???? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. Quakers don't go door to door nor do they |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
139. I've had several encounters with Scientologists |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
83. United Church of Christ did this to me and it's why I stopped going. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
106. Try the cult of Mormonism - they expect no less than 10%. |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. But the difference is that one can achieve salvation for free in most other religions |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. True, that is a more significant issue |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. I don't know if that is true about Scientology, but granted I am |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
120. Not steps like Baptisms, conferments and marriages |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:16 PM Original message |
Duplicate post. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Churches do not charge for baptisms or confirmations. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #120 |
156. In defense of the hardcore fundies |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #120 |
175. I wasn't charged for being baptised in my church |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. I've always found that to be the most suspicious aspect of Scientology |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. You ever hear of Paul Crouch?????? |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Paul Crouch prayed for people to die. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
115. Yeah, his fundraising shows are like the WWF - no holds barred! |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Don't forget Racoon Face Jan Crouch's favorite line |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
107. Heck, I can do one better - you don't even need a church to be "saved"... |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
66. If scientology had a larger following, they would probably settle for 10%! |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
124. Most Christian churches "recommend" you tithe 10% of your income. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
155. all religions offer promises that will never be fulfilled, for a price |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You would say that about Unitarians, for instance? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I don't know much about them, how does the church pay their bills? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. So if a church is member-financed, it's a "cult?" |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. All religions are cults |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. As you seem to encourage as broad a definition as possible... |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
116. Listen, mammal |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. In every real religion I know |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. So you don't like their method of collecting money |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Yeah, but they're OFFERINGS |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
117. Ah, that's so much better |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
144. Depends on what religion AND what country you live in. |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Sounds more like a university or a club, where you pay |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
148. And when it comes to giving |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. You don't HAVE to pay ANYTHING in the Catholic Church and I'm sure |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
58. Unitarian Universalists include Atheists, Pagans, Christians, Jews, etc... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
133. There are Quakers who have clergy and |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Among other reasons, because they have a rate card . . . |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Sounds very similar to most churches |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
75. Is that an absolute statement |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. You're just being suppressive and glib. Obviously your body thetans are out of hand. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. LOL... I wonder if the "get a brain, Morans" guy has any idea |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
96. Of course not. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Actually I'm a Clear |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
87. I was getting that exact idea from your posts. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
173. Not even L. Ron Hubbard was Clear, or else he would have lived forever. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. I'm sure you realize that there is indeed... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Yes there is. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. No one has to donate a certain amount of money to |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
135. In fact, many practicing Catholics don't give any money, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. They're investigating numerous reports of "intimidation and extortion." |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
105. Scientology is just one of the better-organized ones in that regard. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
114. I think they teach their flock not to pay taxes. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. there was a case of murder in clearwater years ago involving those nutjobs. a young woman |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. it was Lisa McPherson |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Clearwater, Florida? (no text) |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
100. yes, clearwater, florida |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. self deleted |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. you can't blame the rattlesnake on Scientology |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. You're right, it was Synanon |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. In Alaska I knew a lot of them that just got out of paying taxes. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. Religious leaders still have to pay income tax |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
174. And if you lived in the church? These people were fighting |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. Careful what you say about scientology... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Back in the '70's I had the "privilage" of working for them |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. I hope the is the start of the.... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'll defend it: not different than other organized religions. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Except you don't have to pay money to find out what the other religions are about... |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. And so does Scientology |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Not for the upper-level OT stuff, they won't. n/t |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. I went to a meeting place once, to find out what they believed... |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
93. Wrong, I've only met scientologists on my porch, knocking on my door |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. btw, it's "Dianetics," not "cybernetics." |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
137. I couldn't remeber. thanks for the correction. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
158. Are you KIDDING ME???? |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:20 AM Response to Reply #65 |
162. Wrong. It costs $380,000 to achieve salvation. |
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harpboy_ak (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #162 |
164. KaptBunnyPant,s you got it right |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
165. The Church of Scientology is anything but poor... |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #165 |
176. A poor religion can't afford a recruitment center in Dupont Circle in Wash, DC either |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #165 |
177. What an interesting building ... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #177 |
180. They bought it from the Masons. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
109. I think the poster was thinking more of its validity in terms of reality. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Except that the name "Scientology" makes it sound as if |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #113 |
146. er em, Christian Scientists? nt. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Yeah, them too, though they don't take the Bible literally. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
122. Yeah cause Baptisms, confrimations, and weddings are all free, and they aren't Catholic Sacraments |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #122 |
142. Baptisms and confirmations are free... |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #142 |
187. Yeah so everyone doesn't kick in so that everyone can receive the sacraments |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. The cost of the sacraments is minimal compared to the cost of |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. Last time I checked, other churches don't keep "dead agent files" on those who disagree with them.. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. You might want to check into the history of a lot of other religions. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Oh, I'm quite aware of the history. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I said religion is big business |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #91 |
178. Institutionalized Religion (Chuch's) are big business, not |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #178 |
181. point taken. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
153. Because most other religions preach charity towards others |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
29. All religions have their origins in foundational narratives (stories of faith, myths, legends, |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
32. As "Bob" said to L. Ron Hubbard: "They may be Pink, but their money is green." |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. But....but .... but.... isn't that "Ladies' Heartthrob" feller, Tom Cruise, the |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Travolta is the one that bugs me... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. yes he is...i used to work where they printed |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. not defending Scientology |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. That prosecutor needs to keep his dog inside. nt |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. why is that? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The clams don't like dogs. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. I used to work with a woman who once jumped off |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. I don't believe it for a minute |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. So, what was wrong with you.... |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. You can choose not to believe it, but the woman was |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
118. lisa mcpherson, to give one example, wasn't as lucky as you. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. Scientology and religion have nothing in common. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
55. I guess you can't belong to a tithing church if you're unemployed, then. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
157. Why not? What's 10% of nothing? n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. Scientology declared me a "Suppressive Person" level 2 once |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So how does one become a suppressive person, level 2? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. I called them out on the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup using my real name |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. LOL... well, I guess that would do it.. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. They're one of the reasons I adopted a "shoot first" policy for home invaders |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
85. Nice. I got a cease-and-desist order from Helena Kobrin, aka "The Kobra" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. They got "Spainked" all right |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
128. It was sweet |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
182. Ah, the good old days! |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. Then you'll enjoy this. |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
61. Facts: L. Ron Hubbard, who created Scientology, was a lousy |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
88. Wrong!!!!! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
108. It bothers me that "Xenu" is almost like "Unix" spelled backwards. |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
145. He ws a GREAT science fiction writer for his time |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:45 AM Response to Reply #61 |
168. That's not a fact |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #61 |
184. He made a bet with John W. Campbell that he could invent a religion ... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
78. I can never decide whether Scientology or Mormonism is the ultimate American religion... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. It's totally amazing how much those two religions have in common |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Indeed...grifter Smith was as enamored of 19th century SciFi... |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
79. Wow, sounds like the amway of religion. |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
136. That's because they're both cults of money |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
81. Well it is ABOUT FUCKING TIME. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Agreed.....fucking raving loonies.... |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
99. About time |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
101. L. Ron Hubbard made a bet that he could create a religion from scratch that fools would follow |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
125. And he was particularly cunning in targeting entertainers as marks... |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
126. Depending on who you ask .... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
102. This is about a woman who was tormented and harrassed |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. No, the Paulette Cooper debacle happened here in our country. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #103 |
121. I know. I meant "this" about the link I added. |
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ericgtr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
127. Mine as well be |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
130. Arnie Lerma has a very comprehensive website about Scientology: |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
140. How many religions... |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
141. I know 3 people who have been Scientologists for 30+ years. |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. gnosticism at its best. been around since the time of Jesus. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:38 AM Response to Reply #141 |
167. Is it true that the Emeter gives out a low electrical charge? |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #167 |
189. I don't think so. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
149. It's a cult which got IRS approval as a "religion" thru very questionabel circumstances . . . . |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
150. Only difference between Scientology and the Mafia... |
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Socal31 (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
152. Fundamental Religion...... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
154. and once this is done, we can crack down on the Catholic Church, right? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
159. I'll make no apology for Scientology |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
160. If you've ever tangled with them, you'll never take them lightly again |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 05:50 AM Response to Reply #160 |
172. I wonder if Karl Rove is a Scientologist? |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
161. It's a cult and a criminal gang |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
163. A capitalist religion if ever one existed. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
169. Because I think it sets a dangerous precedent |
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Crayson (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 04:39 AM Response to Reply #169 |
170. This is EUROPE --> European law applies. Period. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 04:53 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Dude, I AM European |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
179. After reading this entire thread... |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #179 |
185. I'd object to the term "noodly appendage" |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
186. I will Nom this but will also keep my mouth shut. |
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