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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:56 PM
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Home-cooked microwave popcorn may have damaged lungs
Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

It's only a single case, but a physician specializing in respiratory disease has notified four government agencies that she has diagnosed what may be the first documented case of a person who contracted serious lung damage from cooking microwave popcorn at home.

The rare lung disease -- bronchiolitis obliterans -- can cause death in severe cases. Lung transplants are the only hope that patients have. More than 200 workers at plants making microwave popcorn, flavoring and other products which use the synthetic chemical butter flavoring -- diacetyl -- have been diagnosed with the disease.

Dr. Cecile Rose, chief of occupational medicine at Denver's National Jewish Medical and Research Center, told the federal health agencies that her patient had similar clinical findings to the affected factory workers but his only exposure to diacetyl was as "a heavy, daily consumer of butter-flavored microwave popcorn."

Rose said that her team had measured the diacetyl released in the patient's home when the popcorn was microwaved and found levels equal to what the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health found when it began investigating worker exposure in Midwest popcorn plants earlier this decade.



Read more: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/330230_popcorn05.html
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:02 PM
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1. Oh, wonderful.
x(

One more way packaged food will kill us all.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:12 PM
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8. It has been known for years that diacetyl was toxic
More than 2 years ago, a worker at a popcorn packaging plant in Missouri was awarded more than $2.5 million in a lawsuit because of his exposure to this stuff; one year ago, several unions petitioned OSHA to have the substance declared a workplace hazard (I believe the matter is still under investigation.)

If this stuff is so toxic, it is no surprise that it is toxic at home. Why the bloody hell diacetyl is still allowed as a food additive is beyond me.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:14 PM
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10. And why this isn't more commonly know
is beyond me. I'd heard that workers in the food plants were getting ill. I should have realized it was more widespread.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:28 PM
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14. I use only Newman's micro popcorn
but I will still look at the label to make sure. As it turns out, I have read that margarine itself, is just one molecule away from being considered a plastic.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:48 PM
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20. Margarine and shortening are trans fats. Supposedly safe enough to
use in food, but NOT in my opinion. They are NOT nutrition of any sort, but manufactured chemicals which the body does not know what to do with.

Microwave popcorn is no longer allowed in my home because of the diacetyl problem. I'll do the old-fashioned kind - you know, with the skillet and canola oil or lard, popped over a gas flame thank you.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:01 PM
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33. I use an aluminum stock pot
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 07:03 PM by lynnertic
lighter than my cast-iron skillet and the corn doesn't go everywhere.

On edit: I would like to note that popcorn em, binds you if you know what I mean, so we don't eat it very often in this house.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:09 PM
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36. Lol, I'm such a freak, I banned aluminum cookware from my kitchen
20 years ago.........
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:23 PM
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38. really, why?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:25 PM
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39. The hypothetical link to Alzheimer's.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:56 PM
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50. Same here
Works like a charm. I have an air popper, but much prefer it to be popped in the stock pot, so much tastier. Mmmmm :popcorn:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:38 PM
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45. Both margarine and shortening are available w/o transfats.
Suggesting lard as an alternative is outright irresponsible. Canola is fine provided it's a non-GMO variety and expeller pressed.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:52 PM
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49. That's old fashioned lard, right?
As long as it's old style rendered fresh lard (not the standard supermarket hydrogenated kind) it's trans fat-free.

I've never like the smell of microwave popcorn nor the dryness of air popped --it's the old oil in the bottom of the pan method for me too.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:37 PM
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31. You won't find diacetyl on the label
FDA rules allow it to be hidden as a generic "favoring" agent.

b_b
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:02 PM
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34. oh, that's not nice at all.
x(
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 05:21 PM
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25. It smells so foul
that it's easy to believe it's toxic.
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moroni Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:09 PM
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51. Stinks!
I hate the smell and never eat buttered popcorn anyway. I won't let the family use the microwave in the house to cook
the popcorn. We had an extra one (microwave) outside but it got borrowed by a newly wed couple. Haven't seen it since.

Nasty smelling stuff. The wife's youngest use to lick the bag after it was nuked. YUCK.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:03 PM
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2. Christ almighty! Redenbacher Lung!
Who would have thought that artificial butter type flavor additive™ isn't chock full of hearth baked goodness?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:42 PM
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18. ...
:rofl:

am I so evil to laugh at that? from a popcorn addict. who makes it in a heavy pan on top of the stove with oil. and real butter.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:04 PM
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3. Aha!
That's what the Pop Secret is!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:05 PM
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4. I'm glad I switched to a microwave popper.
I did so to avoid all the salt and chemicals. It's so good and so easy. Just put the kernels in the bowl and nuke them for 3 minutes. I don't top mine.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:13 PM
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9. I have one of those
No oil, no hot air... crunchy and I get to control what goes on it. A small amount of real butter, some grated parmasian, YUM!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:57 PM
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22. It's much more economical that way and so much better tasting.
I like to re-pop the ones that didn't pop the first time.


:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:05 PM
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5. I've also heard that microwaving changes the molecular structure of whatever
you use it on because of the way it heats. I heard that a nurse heated up some blood that had been refrigerated in microwave and them gave it to a patient and it may have killed them, I can't remember exactly what the outcome was, but it was said it was because the molecular structure of the blood had changed. So who knows what it's doing to food, especially when plastic is involved so much.

My microwave oven broke about the time that I heard that, 7-8 years ago, and I never replaced it. I don't miss it a bit. Nothing wrong with heating something up in a saucepan or toaster oven.





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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:16 PM
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11. I remember that; it was heat damage, not the microwaves directly
Had the nurse dropped the bag into a pot of boiling water, the result would likely have been the same. Proteins "melt" in excessive heat, and blood is mostly protein and water. Get it too hot, and it is worse than useless.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:30 PM
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40. So she basically cooked the blood.
Yuk.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:35 PM
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44. Yup
Ever look at the bottom of the broiler pan after doing a steak? I doubt the blood was that cooked, but microwave ovens heat very unevenly and just a tiny bit of heat congealing would leave clumps bigger than what is necessary to cause a stroke or fatal blockage.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:26 PM
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13. Yes, I am looking for an inexpensive convection type oven.
But really, now that cooler temps are on the way, it's not such a big deal to cook on a regular stove. B4, it was just too dang hot!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 05:01 AM
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53. I found one on craigslist for $75.00!
I absolutely love it!

Good luck in your search!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:11 PM
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6. Why not just cook it the old-fashioned way....
On the stove, in a little oil? It tastes better, costs virtually nothing, and is apparently a lot safer.

I don't particularly like microwaved popcorn anyway - I like just popping the regular stuff. Not only is it cheaper, but it's fluffier, doesn't have that heavy chemical taste, and doesn't really create much more of a mess.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:32 PM
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16. Or just an air popper is good, too.
Noisy though.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:46 PM
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19. air poppers dry it out too much
the do it yourself microwave poppers are ok and save on oil calories, but they sure do waste a lot of kernels or else burn a lot

best texture/flavor is stove top with a bit of oil
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:42 PM
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17. Only way to do it, IMO. With fresh melted butter. Plus you control the portion.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:12 PM
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7. Now I am glad I only eat the stuff without butter flavoring! (eom)
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:19 PM
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12. And what about those popcorn fiends at work?
When I started at this new job some years back, my chair was about 10 feet from the communal microwave oven, and yes, certain individuals felt an obligation to microwave popcorn several times a day.

After much complaining to the human-resources folks, I finally got the microwave moved into a separate room, but the odor still wafts the 50 feet or so whenever someone has the popcorn urge.

And yes, it makes me sick to my stomach every time.

The lawyers must be salivating at the prospects of this one. And sad to say, it'll probably take a boatload of lawyers to help rectify the damage done by this.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:30 PM
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15. What about movie theatre popcorn?
I assume most of it is artificial flavoring as well. If it contains that toxin, then they will soon have to have another type(maybe REAL butter!!) premeire!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:02 PM
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28. Exact same thing
Whether or not you get the "Genuine artificial butter substitute" or leave it plain, the same flavoring is used in the "butter flavored salt" used to pop the stuff in the first place.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:05 PM
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35. an ex of mine worked at a movie theatre
back then his theatre popped corn with coconut oil because of the high flash point.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:51 PM
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21. Michio Kushi once told a group of listeners "wrap your microwave in a nice ribbon and
give it to your enemy."

I haven't used one since I heard that 15 years ago.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 05:10 PM
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23. Why is diacetyl still in use?! I stopped buying nuke popcorn after I read about the factory workers
The name alone --bronchiolitis obliterans--gave me nightmares. Something that obliterates the victims' bronchioles.

Even when the MSM informed us that "consumers" wouldn't be harmed, I thought why in hell would I buy a product knowing that people died of suffocation to bring it to me?

Hekate

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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 05:14 PM
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24. Thanks My kids are upset since I won't buy the packets anymore Now I can show them this!

This is how we pop corn now! It works great it even has a place to put butter to melt into the pot as you stir it!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 05:46 PM
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26. Yuck! And see how the EPA has handled the problem?
<snip>

And while Pop Weaver has dropped diacetyl from its product, it remains in widespread use in thousands of other consumer products, including the microwave popcorn brands Orville Redenbacher and Act II.

Despite the worker safety findings -- and despite scores of jury decisions and settlements awarding millions of dollars to workers who sued after having their lungs destroyed by exposure to diacetyl -- neither the Food and Drug Administration nor the Consumer Product Safety Commission have investigated. The FDA years ago declared the chemical safe for consumption. Labels on almost all products containing it call it a flavoring and only rarely do the labels mention diacetyl.

The only government investigators to examine whether consumers are at risk -- whether diacetyl is released when consumers pop corn in their home microwaves, and if so, how much -- is the Environmental Protection Agency. But to the frustration of many public health workers, the findings of the EPA's study -- which began in 2003 and was completed last year -- have been released only to the popcorn industry.

In part, it was the EPA's study that led Pop Weaver to reformulate its flavoring without diacetyl, said Mike Weaver, chief executive officer of the 80-yearold family-owned company.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/329640_popcorn30.html
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:11 PM
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30. The problem seems to be...
That diacetyl harms the lungs only when it comes in contact with the lungs. When used "as directed" as a food additive, it is safe.

The problem is that manufacturing with it causes it to become airborne where workers breath it in and get their bronchii obliterated, and (now) it becomes airborne in the home via heating and can accumilate sufficiently to get breathed in with the same results. Hopefully, studies like this will get diacetyl banned entirely before too many more people die this horrible death.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 05:52 PM
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27. I like my hot air popper. nt
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:11 PM
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29. Ugh. Most microwave popcorn bags are coated with teflon also.
We pop ours on top of the stove.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:47 PM
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32. imo no one shoud be eating mocrowave popcorn, it is terrible for your teeth.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:51 PM
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46. Why do you say microwave popcorn is terrible
for your teeth? Is it worse than regular popcorn? I'm curious.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:38 PM
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47. more un popped and half popped kernels and usually it gets dumped into a bowl
at the movies when you get get popcorn where it's actually fresh popped the kernels are usually all popped. My dentist and my daughters orthodontist warned me off microwave popcorn.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:12 PM
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52. Thanks.
I eat regular popcorn when I eat it, and since I pop it, I know to avoid those rock hard kernels that haven't popped.

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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:13 PM
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37. We have ALL got to stop eating crap like this.
Or just continue to prove Darwin to be correct.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:31 PM
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41. It's so easy to make the stuff in a pan on the stove.
Just throw some in with your oil of choice -- butter, sunflower, whatever -- and pop away.

No lung transplant, just delicious popcorn.

Add cajun spice and nutritional yeast for an especially fine snack.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:49 PM
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42. I use one of these...
http://www.toastess.com/product_details.asp?product=30

It works, it's not toxic, and it's not made in China.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:23 PM
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43. Don't like it. Always tastes metallic to me.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:46 PM
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48. UNPLUG THE MICROWAVES, Folks -- even when they "off" they're ON ---
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:15 AM
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54. ConAgra to drop popcorn chemical linked to lung ailment
ConAgra to drop popcorn chemical linked to lung ailment
Updated 11m ago

OMAHA (AP) — The nation's largest microwave popcorn maker, ConAgra Foods, says it will change the recipe for its Orville Redenbacher and Act II brands over the next year to remove a flavoring chemical linked to a lung ailment in popcorn plant workers.

ConAgra spokeswoman Stephanie Childs said the company decided to remove diacetyl (die-ASS-eh-til) from its popcorn because of the risk the chemical presents to workers who handle large quantities.

The chemical diacetyl has been linked to cases of a rare life-threatening disease often called popcorn lung.

ConAgra's announcement comes a week after another popcorn manufacturer, Weaver Popcorn of Indianapolis, said it would replace the butter flavoring ingredient because of consumer concern.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-09-05-popcorn-lung_N.htm
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