Most people 'want Iraq pull-out'

[mogster]

Source: BBC

Most people across the world believe US-led forces should withdraw from Iraq within a year, a BBC poll suggests.
Some 39% of people in 22 countries said troops should leave now, and 28% backed a gradual pull-out. Just 23% wanted them to stay until Iraq was safe.

In the US, one-in-four supported an immediate withdrawal, while 32% wanted Iraq's security issues to be resolved before bringing the troops home.

The BBC World Service commissioned the survey of 23,193 people.


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6981553.stm

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[saigon68]

1. The Fools who want to stay Need to see more of this

The Marine Wedding

From the New York Times

[mogster]

4. That picture speaks loud

War sacrifices. It's always the ordinary people that pay the price, no?

[harun]

8. I saw an article the other day from a war vet and he used the

term "fighting class". Said he didn't want a draft to force rich people in because they would just be officers anyway and mess everything up. How exactly did we forget all the lessons learned from Vietnam?

I guess the vast majority of people learned those lessons, it is just they continue to elect people who didn't.

Heck, the Vietnam lesson learned by Bush was that we should still be occupying it, no matter the cost or the will of the American or Vietnamese people. That is not Democracy, that is slavery of the people to do the bidding of the political elite for their political ends.

[saigon68]

9. the Vietnam lesson learned by Bush

Was how to Dodge the Draft

And the lesson he learned later was how to Kill Children, Torture Brown Men and become a War Criminal for his Corporate Gangster Friends

[lapfog_1]

5. That's so sad.

That girl does NOT look happy on her wedding day.

[lapfog_1]

2. Wow, I figured there would be 23 percent of Bushbots here

but 23 percent of the world wants us to stay until the security improves?

Really?

What countries were included in this poll? Russia? China? India? anywhere in the middle east?

[mogster]

3. The 23%

Is a world wide phenomenon, I think. For different reasons, but mostly because of media bias. The lack of WMD in Iraq was buried and is not talked about in my country anyway. Nor are the solid majority of Americans who are against the war being continued, talked about. Or the Democrats, except for the odd article about Mrs. Clinton or Al Gore. It's the big silent limbo for democracy, where the 23% are fronted as the majority.

The countries involved in the poll are these:

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. Dodgy maths by the BBC and pollsters, I think

Looking at the detailed report, the 23% appears to be the average of the 22 numbers from each country. But if the polls in each country have reasonably accurately determined the opinion of the whole of that country, then this means they're giving the 6 million or so population of Israel the same weighting as the 1300 million of China.

In fact, the big countries, whose figures really show what the overall world opinion, say the following:

Options in order are:
Withdraw immediately
Commit to gradually withdraw over one year
Remain in Iraq until security improves
Other
Don't Know


China 46 30 15 * 9
India 26 21 17 10 26
USA 24 37 32 1 6
Indonesia 65 16 12 * 7
Brazil 54 16 22 * 8
Russia 49 23 9 * 18
Nigeria 34 21 34 * 11

That's 7 of the 10 most populous countries in the world they surveyed - they missed out Pakistan, Bangladesh and Japan - and I'd reckon Pakisatn and Bangladesh, being overwhelmingly Muslim, won't be happy about the US troops staying in Iraq.

Note the 2 really big countries, China and India, are not keen on US troops staying in Iraq. I'd reckon the real percentage in the world is more like 18%.

[iverglas]

7. sigh, chopped liver again

(I know, it was BBC's graph. It leaves out Kenya, Israel, Philippines and undoubtedly others too.)


Country CANADA
Withdraw immediately 32%
Commit to gradually withdraw over one year 35%
Remain in Iraq until security improves 23%
Other/don't know 10%

The immediately/graduately split is slightly different from the BBC's worldwide figures, but the 67% for withdrawing is bang on that average.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/09/06/poll-iraq.html?ref=rss

67% of Canadians surveyed believe foreign forces should withdraw

... In a release, Kull also said that "while majorities in 19 of 22 countries polled want the U.S. to be out of Iraq within a year, in no country does a majority think it will do so."

Stacking up Thursday's findings against the same poll from February 2006, the new poll suggests that the Western world has dropped its support for remaining in Iraq to half of what it was.