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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:40 AM Original message |
Judge sued over ban on word 'rape' |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. She probably can succeed with the wording of the criminal statute concerning |
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Forrest Greene (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I Long Ago |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. I'm not really comfortable with that |
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badgerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. I remember that... |
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Forrest Greene (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. No, It Was |
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badgerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Could have been both... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. It would be even more effective to just tell the guards "these guys fucked 12 year olds". |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. Must be the type of sex the judge likes to have. |
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pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Is the judge a Brownback Baptist? |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Unplanned Sexual Event (USE)? |
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pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. at first I thought it was a parody site |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
5. Good. This trial was a travesty. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. And '1984' has come to pass. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
7. Of course, another nutcase from Nebraska making ridiculous rulings and |
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evilkumquat (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. So What is the Judge's Official 'Reason' for the Order? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. They were banned because it might prejudice jurors against the rapist |
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Spangle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. So, does this judge |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And isn't the alleged rape not a rape until so decided in court? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. while I understand that - this seems to take it to the ridiculous |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. Impressive, isn't it |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It's crazy. Rape connotes the essential element of force against an unwilling victim, |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Well, in that case, let's never mention crimes in court at all, shall we? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. Don't forget to read the article before responding... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That may well be, but what is surreal and frankly barmy is to deny the |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. These types of cases are hell to judge. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. You know what? Even if she consented while drunk out of her mind |
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MaraJade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Legally, in most states |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. That's a good point, too -- although I'm sure harder to prove. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. That's Not the Point |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
16. Good for her! |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. The judge only rulled out the use of the word 'rape' after the prosecution |
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Randomthought (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Rape is not sex |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. The judge allowed the testimony of two other women against |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. That's the point. |
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Bariztr (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
30. Poor jury pool in this thread |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Thank you for weighing in |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Please...the attempt to clean the language is hiding the violence |
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Randomthought (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Exactly |
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Bariztr (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. No jury for you. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The only problem with the presumption of innocence in a case like this is.. |
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Bariztr (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Not the way it works |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-11-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. In the mind of the jurors it does....it's human nature... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. you are stating that we should use benign words that do not suggest |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-11-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. how about this then? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. yeah, men have been trying to shut women up for years. |
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Bariztr (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. More bad jurors |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-11-07 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
46. If she doesn't remember the details, how does she know it |
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