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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:11 AM
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Nikkei plunges on economy fears
Source: BBC News

Monday, 10 September 2007, 05:25 GMT 06:25 UK

Nikkei plunges on economy fears


Japan's main share index has fallen sharply, hit by fears about the state of both the Japanese and US economies.

Data on Monday showing a 1.2% slowdown in the Japanese economy in the three months to 30 June, came after Friday's shock fall in US employment.

The gloomy figures caused Japan's main Nikkei 225 index to fall 358 points to 15,765 by mid-afternoon in Tokyo.

Japan's biggest exporters led the declines, as the dollar fell to a fresh 14-month low against the yen.

Sony's shares were down 5.1%, Canon had lost 3.8%, and Toyota had slid 2.9%, but analysts said declines by firms in all sectors of the economy....

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6986580.stm



Just about all of the world stock markets are down at least 2% so far today, looks like I picked the wrong day too...

Here's another link to see what I mean: <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/fds/hi/business/market_data/stockmarket/default.stm>
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inanna Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:21 AM
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1. Recommended
I'm paying close attention to this.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:32 AM
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2. It is going to be a VERY UGLY Monday starting in six (6) hours.
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 02:32 AM by Double T
The denial is slowly turning into a very harsh reality. The phony boom economy is beginning to collapse and no amount of corporate or WH propaganda is going to change that. The bushco and rethug failings just keep piling up.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:54 AM
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21. No problemo, junior will jump start the printing presses and pump
up the market so he doesn't look bad upon leaving office.

Next it will be the run of the banks before they close and leave for the Cayman Islands.


Is Ken Lay also in the Cayman Islands.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:43 PM
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24. Yes, but what do we do when the currency paper the money is printed on........
is worth more than the values printed on it?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:50 PM
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25. We'll go down like the other countries that have tried to prop
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 02:51 PM by 0007
up their governments.

junior doesn't give a flying fuck about you, me, or anyone else.

We're so screwed.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:33 AM
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3. well isn't this special....
I don't have any stock. I just look at this stuff to see if devaluation is about to kick in world wide. Wow, 2%... that's like a half trillion dollars in lost stock value I'm (totally) guessing? I wish all of DU'ers a safe investment future.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:34 AM
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4. Uh, oh....spaghetti-Os???? Not good.... nt
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:17 AM
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5. It's a shame there's no snow on the ground
This ride could be really fun except for a bad ending at the bottom of the hill or the climb back up. One good thing about being a TOD (Tired Old Drunk)is I can sit back and listen to some good music (Aimee Mann) while I watch my retirement investments shrink into the black hole of the not so free market. I'm really glad I've got no one depending on my financial health. I don't think I could find a safe strategy to get through what's coming.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:30 AM
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6. So is the ride starting?
And will you be able to get off? I'm glad I sold every share I had last month, I could see this shit coming.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:40 AM
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10. I'm holding on to my single share of stock. It was a gift
(now almost worthless) from a company I once worked for.

I'm putting all my investment $$ into poker futures. Things are looking better as I have won twice and finished 5th once in 3 of the last 6 tourneys I've entered.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:54 AM
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7. Cut to a camera shot of an investor standing with his back to the edge of a swimming pool
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 03:54 AM by Gentle Giant
The pool is filled with muratic acid and plenty of double-edged razor blades.

The investor is holding a cup of iced jasmine tea.

As the man falls backwards towards the water, in slow-mo, a guitar is heard playing a quick riff followed by a voice singing:

"Take the Nikkei plunge! AAAAAAAaaaaahhhhh!"

Then **SPLASH** and fade just as the shrieks of agony begin.

Brings you back to the 70s, doesn't it? :evilgrin:




Edit for typo
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:06 AM
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8. LOL! You forgot about the final Crane Shot...
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 04:07 AM by Up2Late
(EXT -- Night) High camera shot, camera slowly pulls away and revels said investor in a pool full of blood...
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:29 AM
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9. I imagine the usual suspects...
that are charged with buoying the NYSE in times of turmoil will be working feverishly this AM to calm investors fears. The MSNBC talking heads will be touting this as a time to BUY, BUY, BUY and the storied "plunge protection team" will swing into action at the opening bell.

Have no fear, all is well. It's an excellent time to broaden your portfolio. And look at the bargains out there! ;)

I imagine there have been many early morning telephone calls already today and that the order has been given to "correct" those silly foreign markets. I mean, with the Bush economic miracle in full swing, why worry? :sarcasm:
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:23 AM
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11. yeah, bush and the republicans
Are SO good for business, aren't they?



Cher
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:44 AM
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12. i don't really like mondays as it is -- and this monday is really not starting well.
might as well go back to bed.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:11 AM
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13. Bonds, bonds bonds bonds bonds bonds bonds...
I HAVE BONDS!!!!

Well, mostly bonds. Enough so that in the past 6 months, I've noticed a near doubling of my "gain" over previous months. (and yes, I know, it ain't real money til I am holding it in my paws)

Yay for being paranoid, cautious and tentative.



My Favorite Master Artist: Karen Parker GhostWoman Studios

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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:35 AM
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20. I diversified about three weeks ago for the same reason.
Still a little stock heavy -- about 60/40.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:14 AM
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14. Global cross-market contagion - the '97 Asia Crisis writ large.
Ten years ago, corruption and insolvency in Russia led to a crash of currencies and assets markets from Thailand to Hong Kong to the Philippines. Somehow, a firewall kept the collapse from New York. Of course, a bubble eventually formed on the NASDAQ as global investors rushed to safe harbour their money, but that burst in early 2000. The Blue Chips didn't fall nearly as far as the dot.coms, but limped along until March of this year, at which time, the Dow ballooned up 20 percent in a mere five months as speculators dumped real estate and plunged into the "safety" of the Blue Chips.

The wave has returned. This time, there's no higher ground to move into. They're all going down.



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Andy Canuck Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:41 AM
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15. The plunge
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 08:01 AM by Andy Canuck
The test will be today in NY. What happened in Asia was a response to the Dow's decline on Friday. The Asian markets almost always mirror the Dow's swings. If today is bad in NY then watch out for Asia tomorrow. There maybe buyers in NY looking to pick up profits. But don't get me wrong, the US economy is a steel building built on balsa wood supports. It is in a very scary place right now.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:02 AM
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16. Welcome to DU!
should be another interesting day at the markets
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:28 AM
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18. Welcome, but you sure picked a lousy day to start posting!
Good Luck. :hi:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:40 AM
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19. Opened a bit higher this morning on Intel, but the sell-off will be after lunch.
Cramer's on top of his snark game. Most entertainment value for the buck - he also makes a lot of sense.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:12 AM
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17. poor babies
they gamed the system and now they are crying because they got caught...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 11:05 AM
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22. So where do you think on friday, in our market, will be bottom? nt
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:19 PM
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23. The best predictions I've read ~
the market is going to start having some wild swings. Some r-e-a-l-l-y big drops. And then, some n-i-c-e climbs. Everyone will breathe a sigh of relief. Whew, looks like we dodged a bullet on that one. Next: an amazing drop. Followed by a not-so-big rebound.

It's going to go like that for quite a while. Think: roller coaster.

The problem, though, is it's going to cause the maximum amount of losses and everyone will eventually lose everything, regardless of the "recoveries".

Just my 2 cents worth. (before inflation):smoke:
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:43 PM
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26. I'm hearing a lot of conflicting theories on where this is headed
in the longer term (next year or so). Some are saying that the US economy might go into a partial recession (like partial pregnancy?), but that the world economy, due to overall robust growth will not get hit that bad. Most damage will be limited to US. Others are saying, essentially - move to Utah, find a bunker, load up on food packets and semi auto rifles, end times have begun.

I don't think anyone really knows what the hell is going to happen.
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