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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:11 AM
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Explosions hit Mexican Oil pipelines
Source: NY Times

MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Several explosions believed to the work of result of sabotage ripped apart pipelines for Mexico's state oil monopoly early Monday, the company said. There were no injuries.

The Mexican state oil monopoly Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, issued a statement saying it believed the explosions, which forced the evacuation of 12,000 people, were deliberate.

A small, left-wing guerrilla group claimed to have attacked a major Pemex gas pipeline in July and at least a dozen major companies, including Honda Motor Co., Kellogg Co. and The Hershey Co., were forced to suspend or scale back operations.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Mexico-Pipeline-Explosions.html?hp
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:17 AM
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1. So, who'd Cheney hire for this job?
:eyes:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:23 AM
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4. ? the teamsters?
/sarc
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:24 PM
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15. Oh what they won't do to keep the excuses coming
to 1> keep us in fear and 2> to keep oil and gas prices high.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:18 AM
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2. Wasn't there just news of a truck exploding en route to a Mexican oil facility
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 10:22 AM by havocmom
So many links to hunt, so little time. ::sigh::

AH, yes, here it is:
Mining explosives right close to Mexican/Texas border rather than headed to an oil facility. (or maybe I was inadvertently correct in my error?)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20689768

PIEDRAS NEGRAS, Mexico - A truck carrying mining explosives blew up after colliding with another vehicle in northern Mexico, killing at least 37 people, including three reporters who had come to the scene, state and federal officials said.

Soldiers, police, emergency officials, nearby residents and reporters were on the scene Sunday night when the a fire broke out and the truck filled with explosives went off, according to Luis Horacio de Hoyos of the Coahuila state Attorney General’s Office.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:21 AM
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3. Right here:
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 10:24 AM by seafan
Truck explodes in northern Mexico, killing 37, police say, September 10, 2007




Sept. 10: A truck carrying mining explosives blew up after colliding with another vehicle in northern Mexico, killing at least 37 people. MSNBC's Contessa Brewer reports.

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20689768


I wonder if this truck was coming into the US?


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:23 AM
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5. Thanks, seafan. I was hunting and typing as you were posting
Gads, I do love DU!
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:29 AM
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6. You're welcome! On these guys, like flies on dung, we are.
It's smelly, but the truth is under there.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:36 AM
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8. Lookie. There is some shit in that fan.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:53 AM
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11. No it wasn't, there are plenty of mining operations
in the State of Coahuila.. in fact NEAR Piedras Negras
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:30 PM
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:30 AM
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7. Sure looks like the shit's getting ready to hit the fan.
Didn't Rove and Gonzales just head back to Texas?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:50 AM
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10. Getting ready? I think it already is. nt
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:54 PM
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20. There's a complex array of secondary fans, you see. (nt)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:50 AM
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9. And the truck carrying 25 tons of explosives was just an accident..
yeah right.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 11:08 AM
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12. Just to add to the discussion about today's Mexican truck explosion:


Source


Also interesting... the Mexican trucking company that is sending the first trucks over the border and deep into the US, Transportes Olympic, is based just outside the northern city of MONTERREY. Looks like a straight shot up the road to the scene of the truck explosion today at PIEDRAS NEGRAS.

Just like to notice these things.



Mexico Sends 1st Long-Haul Trucks to US, September 9, 2007


MEXICO CITY (AP) - Two Mexican tractor-trailers have delivered payloads in New York and South Carolina, becoming the first trucks to operate deep in the United States under a long-delayed, NAFTA-mandated program criticized on both sides of the border.

The trucks, operated by Transportes Olympic, a company based outside the northern Mexican city of Monterrey, crossed into the United States carrying steel construction materials and will haul similar products from Arkansas and Alabama back across the border, Mexican Transportation Secretary Luis Tellez said Sunday.

.....
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 11:54 AM
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13. Truck explosion stupidity
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 12:00 PM by SimpleTrend
The last paragraph in the Yahoo/Reuters story is totally stupid.

The trailer-truck was carrying 25 metric tons of a derivative of the volatile ammonium nitrate chemical used for fertilizers, civil protection authorities said. The media had earlier said it had been carrying explosives.'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070910/ts_nm/mexico_blast_dc_1


I'm so glad to know it wasn't carrying explosives -- only fertilizer -- since it blew up. Hey, anyone actually see it? Maybe it didn't really happen.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:17 PM
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18. I suppose it's possible...
...that ammonium nitrate fertilizer could have mixed with the spilled diesel fuel after the wreck and caused the explosion, but it seems far-fetched.
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PianoBlack Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 12:36 PM
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14. just fertilizer?
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 12:41 PM by PianoBlack
That sounds a bit fishy to me. Yes, fertilizer and fuel oil can be used to make explosives...but would just the fuel on the truck be enough to turn all the fertilizer into a moving bomb?

I would look up the % needed but looking up bomb ingredients on the internet is not the safest thing in the world.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:14 PM
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23. LOL! you are right Im not looking it up, anyone else?
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:16 PM
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17. Mexico is edging closer to civil unrest and possibly civil war
Mexico relies on oil exports for 40% of their tax revenues. However, Mexico's oil fields are old and declining in production by 15% per year (Mexico is experiencing peak oil production). They are attempting to raise taxes on the citizens, but that can only make up a small amount of the lost tax income. Once Mexico's oil industry collapses in a few years, the citizens will face a hard choice: pay far more taxes, or lose most government services and programs. Those situations breed social unrest, rioting and full-blown conflicts.

If the Minutemen think illegal immigration is bad now, wait until millions of refugees start flooding across the border.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:22 PM
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19. I don't see a Mexican Revolution as a necessarily bad thing
We had one and it worked out pretty well in the end. 'Course, it sucked pretty hard while it was going on.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:29 PM
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21. Four bucks a gallon?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:11 PM
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22. honda, kellogg and hershey?
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:04 PM
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24. Solution: solarize so we don't have to worry about oil.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:53 PM
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25. Really, it's so frigging simple, you'd think even El Stupido would get it.
But no, while Mexico implodes from "peak oil" (and from biofuel production impacts on the price of the tortilla), the dumb fucks in our political establishment are off in the Middle East trying to steal THEIR oil and making lots of friends for the U.S. Meanwhile, they try to build a FENCE on the thousand mile border with Mexico!

Where is wisdom? Where is common sense?

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and all election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

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