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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:20 PM
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Democrats Struggle to Regain Offensive
Source: Associated Press

Anti-war Democrats struggled to regain the political offensive in Congress on Tuesday after two days of testimony by Gen. David Petraeus appeared to solidify President Bush's support among Republicans.

"My sense is the general has been so successful in his testimony that positions have hardened," said Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., although he said be believes the public "still wants a plan that equals a pathway home" for all troops.

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"The biggest surprise that I have had is not that the president has stuck to his guns ... but that so many Republican senators who know it's wrong, substantively as well as politically, are just sort of almost blindly following him," said Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Democrats gained power last fall after pledging to end the war, and some of the most skittish Republicans are on the 2008 election ballot — Smith and Sens. Norm Coleman of Minnesota and Susan Collins of Maine among them.


Read more: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/09/11/national/w155202D99.DTL
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:29 PM
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1. democrats keeping using republican language - war instead of occupation, etc, so why bother to
think there's much difference between dems and repubs when the democrats talk and sound like republicans anyway?

its an occupation, not a war.

its an occupation, not a war.

we heard bush's parrot yakking for 2 days, and we heard the parrot's trainer yakking, and now we hear the democrats yakking and using
republican words and phrases. bummer ent it?

so the congressional dems keep proving that people who stand for nothing will fall for anything. maybe its time for democrats to stand for ending the american part of the occupation of iraq, dump the private war profiteers who are fleecing the US taxpayer, disband the
corporate paramilitaries, and quit using american soldiers to provide security for corporate evil doers.

Msongs
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:33 PM
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2. Good post.
Have you been away msongs? I haven't seen you much lately (but maybe its my schedule)
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:33 PM
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3. Unsurprising.
A strategy premised on compromise with centrists isn't going to win. The strategy should be to stay on the offensive and make them capitulate totally and mercilessly.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:34 PM
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4. Regain the offensive?
They don't have to regain anything.... they're already offensive enough.

Jeesh.

TC


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:42 PM
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5. Bullshit. nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:07 PM
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6. The Democrats Can't Do Defense or Offense
As a team, they are worthless. As leaders, they are clueless. As statesmen, they are pathetic. Trade them to someplace where they don't have to face any expectations, and get us some real talent!
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:58 PM
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7. If they trust the Republicans they will always be holding the
bag. The GOP plays to win.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:14 PM
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8. "I don't sense an enhanced sense of skittishness, if that's what you're asking here, on the part of
While several Republicans peppered Petraeus with questions and criticized the administration's policy during the day, none committed to joining a small group of GOP rebels willing to support a fixed deadline for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops.

"I don't sense an enhanced sense of skittishness, if that's what you're asking here, on the part of Republican colleagues of mine in the Senate," the party's leader, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, told reporters.

"I'm optimistic that when the votes are counted, they'll be roughly the same as they have been all year. As you know, we've lost some, but not a lot and I think that's the likely outcome again."

Nor did Democrats claim they had won any converts toward their goal of a 60-vote, filibuster-proof Senate majority.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:29 PM
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9. Duh ...
it's impossible for this Congress of Democrats to regain something they were given but never accepted. They won the election, handed the ball to the Republicans and continued the only game they know: CAPITULATION.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:21 AM
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10. This is a travesty. How does a recommendation to return to pre surge
Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 12:25 AM by deacon
levels do anything for any of them??? This is utter madness.

This is the worst case of denial ever to come out of congress.

It's like whatever Petreaus said (and Feingold DID catch him in lies) said, they were going to claim some sort of 'victory is within our reach' bullshit.
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