Slavery In The Suburbs

[Ian_rd]

Source: CBS News

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It's an industry that's worth some $36 billion worldwide. And as CBS News correspondent Tracy Smith reports in a series for The Early Show, it's making its way into America's suburbs.

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A new girl in town invited Shauna for a sleepover in her Pensacola, Fla., neighborhood. A man posing as the girl's father slipped Shauna a drug. She woke up to a nightmare.

“My legs were being held,” she says. “And my head ... my hands were tied like this, above my head. And I remember saying, 'No, please don't do this. Stop.'"

While her parents frantically searched for her, Shauna was drugged, raped and beaten. Investigator Brad Dennis suspected Shauna was a victim of human trafficking, a growing problem in the Florida Panhandle.

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Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/12/eveningnews/main3254966.shtml

[acmavm]

1. Okay, I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with the punishment for

trafficking in human beings would be very very severe. Life sentences would be my take only because people here would get upset if I suggested anything worse than that. I mean, they are stealing these people's lives.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Why are we worrying about freedom to Iraq,

when we can't even guarantee freedom to our own citizens here at home?

[bos1]

11. Ban Sleepovers????

That's the smart solution if you read the CBS story comments.

Recommending this thread now.

[pattmarty]

3. Just shoot the motherfuckers!

I'm 60 years old and have been a Liberal all my life. I explain my politics as "just to the right of Karl Marx". I am against the death penalty, but in this case, you catch somebody IN THE ACT send them directly to Guantanamo FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

[TomInTib]

9. Amen, Brother.

Set up the cameras in the front yard, march the fuckers out and shoot them.

National broadcast.

And welcome to DU, pattmarty.

[Robbien]

33. This is the third or fourth post where you are recommending death

to anyone who even sneezes if that sneeze offends you.

Perhaps you should calm down.

[L0oniX]

4. Home Land Security at its best

[timtom]

5. Homeland Security

is probably driving this.

Or complicit in some measure.

[formercia]

22. Just give Homeland Security your freedom

sign your rights away and they will 'protect' you from all of those bad people out there.


Al Capone used to do the same thing. If you didn't buy his 'insurance', your business might burn down.

[hedgehog]

6. But, but , but ...... prostitution is a victimless crime......

[Ian_rd]

12. This isn't prostitution

It's kidnapping and slavery.

[hedgehog]

15. Right ...........

and all the johns are caring people who just want to explore their sexuality with no emotional entanglements.


BTW - not one hotel manager, apartment manager or customer ever figured out what was going on?

[Ian_rd]

16. Prostitution is not the issue

Typical prostitution is sex between consenting adults. And some victims of this human trafficking are forced into labor, not sex. Should we therefore outlaw the housekeeping industry since some victims of trafficking are forced to clean people's houses against their will? Of course not, because that's not the issue. The issue is forcing someone to do things against their will. It's kidnapping, rape, and slavery.

[hedgehog]

17. Yep - young girls all over the world are being tricked to come to

Europe and America to do dishes. Oh, the horror!

[Ian_rd]

18. Obviously some of them are, among other things. Are you belittling this fact?

[hedgehog]

19. The article was focused on what is sometimes called "white slavery"

that is, human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution. We are told over an d over again that prostitution is a victimless crime, yet somehow not one of theres girls' customers ever figured out that a group of teenagers in a suburban house may not have been voluntary participants. All slavery is wrong. I'm just commenting on the willful ignorance of those who believe prostitution is harmless.

[Ian_rd]

25. I see what you're saying, but

It is not "human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution," as you say, it is rather human trafficking for the purpose of sex slavery (or forced prostitution). These are two different things.

I see what you're saying - that a great number of these crimes are committed with sex slavery as the purpose, disguised as prostitution. But lumping the two so closely together is irresponsible. It's like taking people who grow pot in their closet and lumping them together with the opium farmers in Afghanistan who fund the Taliban and terrorists. Wayyyyy different situations.

[hedgehog]

26. I'll let Bob Herbert speak for me

http://freedemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/09/bob-herbert-fantasies-well-meant.html

http://greenpagan.blogspot.com/2007/09/city-as-predator.html


More at:

http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/faq/000009.html

[Trajan]

29. How many fallacies ?

At least two ...

1) Non sequitur

2) Petitio Principii

Toss in a Red Herring as well ....

It's too bad you decided to detract from discussion of a REAL crime by introducing an irrelevant issue .... As unfortunate as prostitution may be in a society, it is the criminalization of it that hurts society most, practically speaking .....

But we digress, thanks to the red herring ..... After all, a REAL crime of kidnapping and rape is the real issue here .....

[Quantess]

30. Thank you for realizing that there is a distinction.

And thank you also, for providing the latin term for "circular reasoning" http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/circular.html
Petitio Principii

[HowHasItComeToThis]

7. BUT THIS IS A BORED AGAIN AREA

THEY WOULD NEVER DO THIS KIND OF THING, OR WOULD THEY????????????????

[Quantess]

13. Bored? As in, a sleepy "bedroom community"?

Honey I'm bored. Let's start a sex slave ring.
:shrug: {/?}

[Quantess]

24. Oh, I get it now.

I've never heard "Born Again" called "Bored Again".
That's kind of funny.:)

[lovuian]

8. We have all this technology and Homeland Security and

yet human trafficking is taking place

Justice department is a farce right now

[bos1]

10. 3 words: Third. World. Country.

and look at the comments in the link. People want to ban sleepovers!

[Felinity]

14. The problem with this story is

It is not really news. 30 years ago, my mother went nuts when I came home late from a day-trip she knew little about. I never saw her so distraught. She said, "haven't you heard about white slavery?" Of course I hadn't, I was the most naive person on earth , thanks to my protective parents.

Anybody ever heard of Jeff Gannon/Guckert? Word is he was a kidnap victim who never returned.

How about the Mariana Islands?

No, not news.

[Quantess]

20. You're absolutely right.

Human trafficking has gone on for centuries, probably since the dawn of mankind. Ever read anything by Marquis De Sade? He was fully into sex slavery. His power and prestige allowed him to get away with it.

The surprising part is that it STILL happens.

[smoogatz]

21. De Sade was imprisoned multiple times, and died in an insane asylum.

I wouldn' call that "getting away with it."

[hootinholler]

23. Johnny Gosch

What was done then? Very powerful people are involved in these crimes.

-Hoot

[flashl]

27. Pensacola Story about Shauna

Shauna's Story of Slavery

Panhandle top place in Florida for human trafficking

Shauna is a real person. Shauna is her real name. She's 18 now, and she's lived in Pensacola as long as she can remember. She's white, middle-class. All her family is here. This all happened just over a year ago. She was held against her will for four days from April 29 to May 2, 2006.

Shauna is a victim of sex trafficking. Forced commercial sex and labor are called human trafficking, a form of modern-day slavery. Human trafficking is very real across the United States, especially in Florida, California, New York and Texas. And it's very real in Pensacola.

[JCMach1]

31. Ironic, in ground zero for the evangelical movement...

or not... most likely we are talking the same people...

[Quantess]

28. THIS haunted my mind for days....

A weird "older-middle-aged" man who kidnapped women, and kept them in his dungeon. It's a very compelling (and also repelling) story.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/sexual_assault/john_jamelske/1_index.html

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

32. omg

how sick can one get?...