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PageOneQ Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:14 PM
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Secretary of State, who keeps private life shrouded, co-owns home with female filmmaker
Source: PageOneQ

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice co-owned a home and shared a line of credit with another woman, according to Washington Post diplomatic correspondent Glenn Kessler, who reveals the information in his new book, The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy.

Kessler discussed the revelations with talk-show host and gay author Michaelangelo Signorile Friday on his Sirius Radio show.

According to the book, Rice owns a home together with Randy Bean, a documentary filmmaker who once worked with Bill Moyers. Kessler made the discovery by looking through real estate records.

Read more: http://pageoneq.com/news/2007/Secretary_of_State_who_keeps_private_life_shrouded_coowns_home_with_female__0914.html
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:17 PM
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1. Well, well, WELL. THIS is interesting.
Just that at the moment...interesting.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:32 PM
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27. Imagining any kind of human emotion from Rice -- hetero or homo -- is difficult -- !!!!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:10 AM
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110. Well, they say Goebbels was a kindly and devoted family man
If he can simulate human emotion, a lesser monster like Rice easily could, also.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:18 PM
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2. Remember how bush destroyed Ann Richards in 1994 with unfounded allegations of her being gay?
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:45 PM
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16. Rice and Bean(s)...
added with Chicken (Bush) and Sausage (Dick Cheney)...jumbalaya anyone?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:36 PM
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30. Good one!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:20 PM
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75. If Bean were embarassed about it, it would be....
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:59 PM
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121. ...Red Bean and Rice
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:30 PM
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80. nt
:rofl:
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:42 PM
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93. Pass thanks.
Had it before, pretty hard on the stomache, politically speaking.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:08 AM
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109. Jumbalaya? More like Dumbo-Lie-ah.
That is the sorry stew you get when you mix rice, her friend Bean, and duhbya (chicken) and the dick (sausage).
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:07 AM
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116. how Randy is she? now we know what could have Bean.
What...horrible...thing...could have Bean.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:19 AM
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117. Very clever! nt
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:20 PM
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3. I could care less if she is gay, but the hypocrisy of supporting
an admin that is so anti-gay is beyond me.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:28 PM
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5. That kind of behavior is rampant with repukes.
In the 2004 Florida US Senate primary, a couple of days before the primary, Mel Martinez went on a rampage accusing wing-nut, and Clinton prosecutor Bill McCollum of being a tool of the homosexual agenda. Never mind that Martinez' senior campaign staff were gay.

It got so vicious that the St. Pete Times pulled their endorsement of Martinez.
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Malidictus Maximus Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:34 PM
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13. How many gays
are still in the closet when it means keeping a good paying job?
I have no idea but there must be a few.
Perhaps she just as a roommate? Might be kind of silly for a single person to have a house all to themselves, especially if pulling long days, frequent trips and intending to relocate back to Stanford.
Not that I care for *ANY* of the members of PNAC;-)

now I'm straight (but not narrow) but I've worked for comapnies that did things I loathed, gotta be a 'good German', you know:-)
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:00 PM
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42. I don't think I have heard rice come out against gays.
In fact I have not heard of her ever making a statement either way. I do know that when she first came into the news, some of the media did question her lack of "boy friends" but it dropped off in a hurry and was forgotten. Since she does not pan gays I don't see anything wrong with her being a lesiban, if she is.

I think I know why republicans who are gay joined the republican party. Since as long as I can remember, the republicans knocked gays, gay marriage, gay partners etc, a gay person joined the republicans because they thought they would be safe and no one would ever find out. But it seems they might as saved themselves the trouble, since it is now coming to light. All lawmakers gay or otherwise should have the guts of Barney Frank. Come out and tell the world if they don't like it,,,,GET OVER IT.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:18 PM
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56. Interesting links here...
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feloneous cat Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:28 PM
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78. I think folks are bothered by the blatant hypocrisy...
If it is indeed true, more than anything else.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:53 AM
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113. I think that outing of public figures should be reserved for the explicitly anti-gay ones
Just sayin'.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:49 PM
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85. ditto on being black or even female. All 3 together boggles the mind. -eom
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:25 PM
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91. You nailed it. Another Repug hypocrite to add to the never-ending list. n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:24 PM
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4. I thought Bush was her husb... oops, never mind. n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:31 PM
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9. You beat me to it.
I was going to mention that. Maybe they do threesomes?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:06 PM
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22. Husbands come in two varieties
Stemmed and unstemmed.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:26 PM
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77. they do, indeed!
:evilgrin:
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:33 PM
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28. Gee! I wonder if he knows about this and if he is
the jealous type. He doesn't strike me as being sexually liberated. In fact, he doesn't strike as sexual at all unless you count sadism.

;-)

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:37 PM
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98. maybe her beard...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:28 PM
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6. ah, but she is cured you know as now has a 'hub...." all is well
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:29 PM
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7. "Silence," he added, "gives consent."

......Rice faced attacks from liberals in the gay community over the State Department's silence to rebuke Iran for the hanging of gay teenagers. The gay rights lobby Human Rights Campaign called on Rice in 2005 to condemn Iran's human rights abuses after the hanging of two gay teenagers, and to express indignation over "other horrific human rights abuses against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people across the globe."

Rice did not.

The Secretary has remained silent on whether gays should be allowed to serve in the military and has not commented on the permanent partners immigration act.

Andy Humm, a New York gay journalist who discussed the Iran hangings on his TV show Gay USA, says Rice's silence gives "consent."

"Condi Rice works for an administration that uses attacks on gay rights to win votes," Humm told Raw Story. "She has stood by silently while the President has proposed writing anti-gay discrimination into the Constitution of the United States. Whenever she is given the opportunity to distance herself from their anti-gay polices she punts."

"Silence," he added, "gives consent."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:31 PM
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10. "After she became secretary of state, she came to a party at Blacker's house, kicked off her shoes,
"After she became secretary of state, she came to a party at Blacker's house, kicked off her shoes, and began dancing through the night to rock and and roll," Kessler wrote. "Blacker, who is gay, wanted to show his partner how tight her behind is; he postulated that if he aimed a quarter at her butt, it would bounce off like a rocket. He was right. Rice, who was dancing, didn't realize what he had done until everyone began laughing hysterically. She was flattered -- and proud."

The blogger who first posted emails about former Rep. Mark Foley's (R-FL) solicitation of male Congressional pages, Lane Hudson, also questions Rice's silence.

"After she became secretary of state, she came to a party at Blacker's house, kicked off her shoes, and began dancing through the night to rock and and roll," Kessler wrote. "Blacker, who is gay, wanted to show his partner how tight her behind is; he postulated that if he aimed a quarter at her butt, it would bounce off like a rocket. He was right. Rice, who was dancing, didn't realize what he had done until everyone began laughing hysterically. She was flattered -- and proud."

The blogger who first posted emails about former Rep. Mark Foley's (R-FL) solicitation of male Congressional pages, Lane Hudson, also questions Rice's silence.

"Secretary Rice has typified the juxtaposition that many Republicans have between their public and private lives," Hudson said. "Privately, she is very supportive of gays. However,Hudson said. "Privately, she is very supportive of gays. However,
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:30 PM
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8. read the whole article--it's an eye-opener
And there's another book that came out awhile ago that made me even question whether Rice is even a Republican. She must be some kind of principle-less person with no conscience who can mold herself into whatever.



Cher
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:31 PM
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12. yes, very
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:54 PM
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19. How many Democrats have Oil Tankers named after them?
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 02:56 PM by A HERETIC I AM
OK...it USED to be named after her
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:12 PM
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24. Armand Hammer Had a Whole Fleet of Oil Tankers
whether any were named after him, I don't know.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:21 PM
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26. Good point. n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:07 PM
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89. But he has baking soda named after him.
Doesn't he?

;)

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:20 PM
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60. "principle-less person with no conscience " Sounds like a Republican to me!
That seems to be the definition of their leadership nowadays.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:23 PM
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61. I have heard from sources who knew her at Stanford that she is known to be gay
and also that she is known to care only about power and money.
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ChicagoRonin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:31 PM
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11. Perhaps Condi is Bi
Bi-opportunistic, that is.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:32 PM
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101. Maybe both bush and condi are bi. That may explain her tolerance of Gannon/Guckert.
Maybe that's what really drives Laura crazy.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:36 PM
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14. It's the hypocrisy that gets me
I don't care who does what in their personal lives - I welcome diversity and understanding. But I DETEST the rampant hypocrisy of the Repukes.

My best friend from law school has never married and owns a home with a woman. Don't know if she's gay - have never asked, and it really doesn't matter to me. So I don't find this shocking. Again, it's the hypocrisy I find absolutely nauseating.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:43 PM
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15. I just read the article and to be fair
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 03:17 PM by drm604
I don't think this story is evidence that she's a lesbian. She didn't live with the woman. She helped her with some credit problems.

However, other things in the article show major hypocrisy on her part.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:45 PM
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17. Surprise Surprise Surprise!!!
Condi has been toted by the Russians as gay so maybe they knew more than we did
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:52 PM
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18. Wonder where Gwen Ifill fits in to the scenario.
.
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Musty Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:03 PM
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44. ???????????????
What are you implying?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:54 PM
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20. Blah...total non-story.
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:57 PM
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21. The hypocrisy is astounding....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:08 PM
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:14 PM
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25. I Don't Care If She's Gay
There's no automatic disclosure requirement in her office. I care that (not if, THAT) she lies and works as a paid mouthpiece for what is arguably one of the five most corrupt Administrations in America's history.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:34 PM
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:51 PM
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33. Yes, that is the Randy Bean who is her best friend and with whom she owns a home
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:44 PM
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31. I can understand those in the closet being fearful to come out if they have
families they feel it would hurt. What I can't understand is why someone who is gay would be simpatico to a party that is so intolerant of gays. In addition to the stress of keeping such a thing secret, the directive to paint gays as being sinners, whatever, must be almost unbearable.

If she is a lesbian do you suppose Bush knows?

And the Republicans should realize that the reason so many of their gay members are being outed is because of their vicious, vile attacks on the individuals who are of that persuasion. Got to admit I get a huge wave of schadenfreude when someone who themselves has disparaged homosexuals gets nailed. Like Craig.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:47 PM
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32. They both love God and Football
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1547-2005Feb5?language=printer

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Rice earned her PhD in international relations at Denver in 1981, and became an assistant professor at Stanford, where the football program was flagging. She went to every home game anyway, and met her best friend in the process -- Randy Bean, also a daughter of a minister who raised her to love football.

"People ask how we became friends and I always say, 'God and football,' " said Bean, a documentary filmmaker for Stanford. "I could forgive Condi her politics because she loved football, and likewise she could forgive mine."

* * *
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:51 PM
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34. Or perhaps it's just
that housing around Stanford is so bloody expensive that they're in a legitimate arrangement to address that.

Much ado about not very much.
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MsRedacted Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:25 PM
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90. That is true. A crappy Eichler can set you back 1 million dollars in Palo Alto.
And do they even live there? Or is it an investment property.

I don't know if she's gay and I don't care. I spent a fair amount of time at Stanford during the Clinton Admin and I've never heard any rumors about Condi.

But I think there are legitimate reasons for co-owning a property there.

And if she were gay and trying to hide it -- don't you think she'd do a better job? Everyone knows property records are public info.

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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:04 PM
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96. And it also means Rover slipped up and missed a record
that probably would have been made top secret.

I don't care if she's gay, and yes, I bet jr knows it and thinks he can reform her....you know, much like the good Dr Frist could tell Terry Schiavo was alive and well and just trapped in a useless body via videotape.

They all make me sick and the sooner we can escort them out of the wh, the better.

Let's see, that had to be one helluva partay.....

Jeff and Jr
Karl and whoever his squeeze was at the moment from the madam
Condi and her friend...

Yep, if only walls could talk. The wh walls would probably tell us Clinton should have been granted sainthood.
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:53 PM
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35. And this means....nothing. eom
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:54 PM
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36. Hmm. I wonder if this is why she won't run for President.
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 03:56 PM by jsamuel
A gay, black, woman for Republican ticket? That would shake the foundations of the Republican party.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:30 PM
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63. Actually I think that it would be right at home with the foundation of the Republicans
Lincoln's party was a radical ultra-liberal party, the modern party is nothing like its foundation.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:55 PM
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37. Surprise...Not!!!
Really do not care about her sexual orientation, it's her stupid politics that suck!:eyes:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:56 PM
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39. Lot of old skeletons in those old rethug closets.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:04 PM
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71. Of course, Aaron McGruder hinted at this in Boondocks for weeks.
The brilliant Aaron McGruder had his characters in Boondocks all trying to "help Condi find a man" and wondering why she didn't "have a man". Aaron was simply funning with what George and Laura and Dick and Liz know: Condi is a lesbian, a self-hating one which makes it all so sad.


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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:17 PM
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74. I love Aaron the "Truth Teller" Supreme!
I really miss his cable show, is it coming back on?

Each segment was a classic.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:47 PM
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94. Is being gay a skeleton in your book?
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:20 PM
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119. When your a Rethug, yes it is.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:58 PM
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40. I told you she was gay. But nobody ever listened. All of those RW's are gay.
Not just gay, but damned gay.

For the flame-bait impaired: :sarcasm:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:59 PM
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41. So Rice helped another woman out when she was going through financial problems
Who cares? :shrug: Much ado about nothing.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:05 PM
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47. the other woman is her best friend--they met at Stanford due to their shared love of football
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 04:06 PM by goodhue
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1547-2005Feb5?language=printer

* * *

Rice earned her PhD in international relations at Denver in 1981, and became an assistant professor at Stanford, where the football program was flagging. She went to every home game anyway, and met her best friend in the process -- Randy Bean, also a daughter of a minister who raised her to love football.

"People ask how we became friends and I always say, 'God and football,' " said Bean, a documentary filmmaker for Stanford. "I could forgive Condi her politics because she loved football, and likewise she could forgive mine."

* * *

:shrug:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:14 PM
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52. Then even more power to her
I applaud that Rice had the ability to help out a good friend.

I know that my best friend would do the same (and vice versa) if we could.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:33 PM
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120. Its ok if Condi is gay
but she shouldn't stand by while her boss and her party exploit them for political gain. Don't you agree?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:02 PM
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123. I wouldn't even assume
that Rice is gay just from this. :shrug:


And either way I still wouldn't care.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:31 AM
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115. Yes, I agree. I'm sort of surprised that Condoleesa HAS a friend.
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 02:45 AM by quantessd
But, that's good. Everyone needs a friend.
I am not at all convinced they are more than friends.

I think this is going in the wrong direction.
LOOK PEOPLE, Condoleeza Rice is NOT a LESBIAN.

(okay, so I don't know for sure, but I would bet $50 she isn't.)
And I don't like to bet money.

You are BEING PLAYED (not directed at Tammywammy). :)

Edit: I meant to say, anyone who is biting at this all republicans are gay bait is BEING PLAYED. Go ahead and bite at the stupid shiny lure. Condoleeza Rice is "probably not" gay, and who cares, anyway? As far as I'm concerned, she's not vocal against gays, so who really cares what her orientation is?

This is SHINY BAIT.
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BeyondThePale Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:01 PM
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43. Major Renaut: I'm shocked, shocked...
to find gambling here
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:04 PM
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45. The hypocrisy! I shocked beyond belief.
That such a neocon would hang out with someone that worked the liberal Bill Moyers.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:05 PM
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46. Yeah, right.
Perhaps the most popular remaining high-profile figure in the Bush Administration,

Among who, Rapturists?

Rice was put forth as to succeed Bush by many of her backers. She declined, repeatedly, offers to run for president in 2008, and will return to Stanford upon her departure from the White House.

Why would they want her back? What university short of ORU or BJU would want someone from that administration teaching? Talk about bringing the institution into disrepute. At very best, she'd only just have to leave again to attend her war-crimes tribunal.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:48 PM
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84. oh, I'm sure she'll be back
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 05:49 PM by Neecy
Stanford is hardly a liberal hotbed - she'll probably end up at the Hoover Institution, a well-known refuge for conservative hacks. She'll fit right in, believe me.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:54 PM
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95. Exactly
...she can go hang out with her old pal Rummy!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:06 PM
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48. Well, WE don't care if she's a woman who likes women...but the Repubs? What do
you suppose THEY'LL have to say?

Redstone
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:00 PM
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87. they will just want to watch....
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:07 PM
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49. KindaSleaza Riech ...figures
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:10 PM
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50. I don't recall ever hearing her denounce gay marriage...
She's pretty much kept silent about it; but if anything, she's leaned toward support.

I think she should be left alone on this personal element of her life.

But I'm all for bitching about her politics.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:12 PM
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51. can you imagine the excitement at Freeeper-land if . . . . .
YOW - I love it!!!!!!
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:16 PM
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53. It's possible they're both lesbians but never had a sexual relationship
With each other. You can be good or best friends with someone of your gender preference and not have sex.

OTOH, the Gewn Ifill rumor is something that I put more credence in at this point.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:47 PM
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100. Is Randy Bean a lesbian?
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:35 PM
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103. yes
obviously
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:16 PM
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54. SECURITY CLEARANCE ISSUES
I believe that Condi Rice should be immediately called forth to answer to whether or not she is homosexual or bisexaul. The major premise of the military's don't ask, don't tell policy is that gay men and women can be blackmailed due to their sexual orientation and thus they are security risks. Condi was National Security Advisor and is now Secretary of State. I assume she has the highest security clearance allowable.

What is fair for the men and women in uniform - answering about their sexual orientation due to security concerns - is certainly fair for Secretary Rice.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:23 PM
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76. But she's a Republican...
The law doesn't apply to Republicans. Neither does military policy.

She's just another hypocrite in an administration of hypocrites. And just another liar in an administration of liars. If she were asked, she might not tell. Not the truth anyway.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:33 PM
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92. those days are long gone
when your sexual orientation could jeopardize your security clearance. Fortunately.

The mi;itary's stance toward gays is a separate issue, has nothing to do with clearances.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:16 PM
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55. Blacker bounced a quarter off her butt to show his partner how tight it was!
"After she became secretary of state, she came to a party at Blacker's house, kicked off her shoes, and began dancing through the night to rock and and roll," Kessler wrote. "Blacker, who is gay, wanted to show his partner how tight her behind is; he postulated that if he aimed a quarter at her butt, it would bounce off like a rocket. He was right. Rice, who was dancing, didn't realize what he had done until everyone began laughing hysterically. She was flattered -- and proud."

You know! This doesn't surprise me. All they care about is money. She'll sell her own mother out if it makes her some MONEY!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:20 PM
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58. Well, Condoleezza Rice may or may not be black
I guess we'll never the truth about either.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:20 PM
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59. yeah, I've heard
that place has some really fabulous closets!! :rofl:

:hide:

:yoiks:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:28 PM
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62. I think Condi Rice is very power focused... Another story about her earlier life...

Condi I think probably has a lot of inconsistent private stories with what is her "public persona" in the Bush administration, and I think personally she's driven by what gives her more power in any hierarchy than being consistent with what she does privately and her personal friends.

She also was a music major early on when she went to the University of Denver before she was at Stanford. At Denver, she switched from being a music major to international studies by her mentor Professor Josef Korbel in that department, who was none other than Madeline Albright's father. We have Madeline Albright's father to thank for Condi Rice being in government today rather than being someplace else.

My father also happened to have Dr. Korbel as his mentor at Denver, and that is why we also lived overseas with his degree and specialty as I was growing up.

When Madeline Albright was on James Zogby show some months back, she talked about Condi and how at one point, she tried to recruit Condi to work on Dukakis' campaign, and Condi replied back that she couldn't because she was a Republican. Madeline Albright said something to the effect of her belief that she probably channeled her father (he's passed away now) better than Condi! :)
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:32 PM
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64. Football fascinates her because it resembles war
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1547-2005Feb5?language=printer

Rice has said football fascinates her in part because it so resembles war -- the strategy, the object of controlling territory, the air and ground attacks. Indeed, presidents and policy makers have often noted the resemblance and some analysts have called football "war without death." But long before Rice loved military strategy, she loved football.

"She thought Jim Brown was the greatest thing since sliced bread," says Rick Upchurch, a former Denver Bronco and all-pro kick returner who dated Rice in the 1970s when she was a University of Denver doctoral student. "She loved the way he played the game because he was aggressive and he went after what he wanted. And that's the way she was, she went after things she wanted. She knew how to strategize and get control."

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:16 PM
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73. and she loves football
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1547-2005Feb5?language=printer

Rice earned her PhD in international relations at Denver in 1981, and became an assistant professor at Stanford, where the football program was flagging. She went to every home game anyway, and met her best friend in the process -- Randy Bean, also a daughter of a minister who raised her to love football.

"People ask how we became friends and I always say, 'God and football,' " said Bean, a documentary filmmaker for Stanford. "I could forgive Condi her politics because she loved football, and likewise she could forgive mine."
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:35 PM
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65. lol. what if she's laura's lover and not chimps?
maybe theres a pat robertson U lesbian circle in the DOJ
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:36 PM
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66. Not that it matters, but she isn't necessarily a lesbian
When I lived in Minneapolis twenty years ago, I knew two women who had bought a house together. Neither had any gentleman friends, so I just assumed that they were lesbians.

When I moved back here and reconnected with some of my friends from former days, I found that both women are now married to men. I don't know what happened to the house.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:38 PM
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67. Who cares? All I care about is that she's a liar who helped get us into the Iraq War and,
as National Security Advisor, she did absolutely nothing prior to 9/11.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:42 PM
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68. Yes
If I didn't hate her so much, this tidbit would actually make me like her more.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:35 PM
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81. Yes, I absolutely agree.
I could care less about her personal life.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:51 PM
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69. Well i guess I'm gay
Because i also co-own property and share a checking account and a line of credit with another man. Boy is my wife gonna be surprised!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:00 PM
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70. See you in Minneapolis airport ...
knock three times on the stall door if the answer is yes...
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:12 PM
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72. From the article:
"Condi Rice works for an administration that uses attacks on gay rights to win votes," Humm told Raw Story. "She has stood by silently while the President has proposed writing anti-gay discrimination into the Constitution of the United States. Whenever she is given the opportunity to distance herself from their anti-gay polices she punts."

"Silence," he added, "gives consent."

More hypocrisy. I swear it stems from selfhatred.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:28 PM
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79. A bachelorette
there's all sorts coming out of the woodwork!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:36 PM
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82. Oh no!! My family is threatened!!
My marriage is in peril!! What about Jeee-sus?!! What will we till the children?!!

I expect man-on-box turtle any day now ... :scared:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:47 PM
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83. Black, lesbian, republican - that is all kinds of wrong. And stupid. -eom
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:34 PM
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102. i think i saw her in cliphunter
not bad
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:55 PM
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86. that is why they made her go on the fake date with the Canadian Hunk..she's not gay..see.....
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:07 PM
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88. Now that the cat's out of the bag she should openly admit it
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:07 PM
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97. I only have two questions.............
1) Are Republicans all gay?
2) Are they mentally ill to belong to a group that speaks out against their own so viciously?
3) Do they find the closet sexually arousing?
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:56 PM
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104. Holy crap, you may be on to something
(Technically Sarah, that was three questions, but who's counting? :))

But I wonder if you're right about #3. Maybe being in the closet is the best part to them, so the more more they have to hide it (say from fellow republicans) the more sexually gratified they are.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:46 PM
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124. ROFL! Well, I threw one in for free. :-P
And yeah, the freebie I think holds the most truth. :)
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:13 PM
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105. that is three questions
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:47 PM
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125. Ahem! Can't get one past you can I? :) nt
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:40 PM
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99. co-owned a home...
Is it a Log Cabin?
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:16 PM
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106. The Closet leaves her open to blackmail. Plain and Simple.
She should loose her security clearance over this.


If she was an out homosexual, I wouldn't give a damn.

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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:30 PM
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107. I guess that gap in her teeth is where her tongue slithers in and out of...
when shes chillin at the crib with Randy baby.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:59 PM
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108. I think it's funny that intelligent people
are posting more on this post and the meat eating one....giving the impression that gossip and eating plans are more important than anything else............as if you the du has fallen into the fox news rabbit hole . While the economy falls apart I applaud you all for discussing condi's sex life and wether or not we'll stop eating meat.
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hedgetrimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:40 AM
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111. Britney Rice and Paris H. Beans
Oh- yeah
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:16 AM
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112. Ms. Rice's sexuality is a non-issue
Industrial meat production and its attendant use of resources, on the other hand, is one of the most important issues we will face in our lifetimes.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:01 PM
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122. Yeah. It's not like she's uttered an anti-gay word in her life, that anyone
has mentioned.

If she were an outspoken homophobe or a famous anti-gay politician, the hypocrisy would be too juicy to pass up. But this make us look as small minded as some of the pea-brains in the other party.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:20 AM
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114. Does anyone remember the Sesame Street Song:
Beans & Rice
Beans & Rice

It's nice!
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:50 AM
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118. First we had a Colin-colon, Dick and Bush.....now we have Black, Beans
and Rice.....we couldn't make this stuff up!
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