O.J. SIMPSON OFFICIALLY CHARGED WITH ROBBERY, ASSAULT AND KIDNAPPING

[Roon]

Source: ABC news

O.J. SIMPSON CHARGED WITH 10 FELONY COUNTS INCLUDING ROBBERY, ASSAULT AND KIDNAPPING. CLICK HERE TO READ THE CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED BY THE NEV. DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396

[againes654]

1. And this helps the country how???

I am so sick of OJ.

[DrDan]

4. so exactly why would you click onto this topic and enter a reply

[0007]

102. I click it! to check out the absurdity of the O.J. circus crowd.

I'm very very tired of hearing about this murderous freak

[cobalt1999]

7. Then use the "Hide Thread" option.

I'll never understand people that post into Threads saying "Why are we talking about this?".

[uppityperson]

9. Don't forget those who post

to say "what a waste of bandwidth"

[Raine]

18. by getting an angry violent

person off the street...

also if you're sick of O.J. WHY didn't you skip this thread??? I get sick of lot's of subjects I see again and again in the DU...I don't open them!

[kstewart33]

25. Oh, I don't know, maybe GETTING A KILLER OFF THE STREETS? eom

[Kweli4Real]

33. Didn't some of you understand the verdict ...

I still can't get over how soooo many "Liberals" and/or "Progressives" are soooo willing to discount the verdict of a system that cannot not be described as racially unbiased and substitute their own uninformed judgement.

The jury said NOT GUILTY folks ... get over it!

[StarryNite]

43. The verdict was wrong.

Just like this war/occupation in Iraq is wrong. But I guess we should just get over that too. :eyes:

[alarimer]

47. I think that verdict was the result of bad prosecution and police work

as well as the fame effect.

Makes me wonder how he will get a fair trial this time.

[allisonthegreat]

58. Well crap he was still the killer...

Nobody else was found...duh.

[StarryNite]

62. Nobody else was found

but OJ is still looking for the murderer on golf courses all around the country.

[Patchuli]

79. Not now he's not! He's buggered!

Figuratively speaking of course...:sarcasm:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070919/ap_on_re_us/o_j__simpson

[allisonthegreat]

99. i can't believe they set bail if these are such

serious charges!

[LisaL]

111. Well, that's what they usually do. Set bail.

Even those accused of murder can get out on bail a lot of times.

[yava]

44. no comment!

Charges against Marine in Haditha case dropped Updated at 1:29 AM

Source: AFP

<snip>

"A Marine Corps officer accused of failing to properly investigate the alleged massacre of 24 Iraqi civilians in the town of Haditha has been cleared of wrongdoing, the military said Tuesday.

A statement released from the Marines Camp Pendleton base in southern California said all charges against Captain Lucas McConnell stemming from the Haditha investigation had been dropped.

The charges against McConnell had been dropped following a ruling by Lieutenant-General James Mattis, commander of the US Marine Corps Forces, who was last week named by the Pentagon as head of the US Joint Forces Command.

"(Mattis) determined that administrative measures are the appropriate response for any errors or omissions allegedly committed by McConnell," the statement said."

[alarimer]

48. So how come the police stopped looking for the "real killer"

after the case was over. If he was truly innocent, don't you think they might have kept at it? Oh, the police and prosecution screwed up plenty but I haven't ever seen anyone come up with another credible suspect.

[knight_of_the_star]

61. Not to mention the wrongful death suit

The one OJ lost shortly after the trial.

[JeanGrey]

117. There was no killer, besides O.J.

Everyone knows it. It wasn't prosecuted badly, they had enough evidence to convict ten men. A mountain of evidence. The jury wasn't going to convict, it is simple. No matter what.

I hope they get him this time.

[knight_of_the_star]

60. Because the prosecution couldn't find their ass with both hands behind their backs

Honestly the people who handled that case could have nailed him without the evidence that the racist cop handled if they knew what the fuck they were doing.

[liberal renegade]

73. Exactly!

The defense created reasonable doubt and the jury as instructed, could not find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

No, it doesnt mean he's innocent but the prosecution fucked up....


BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT! It protects all of us......

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[Patchuli]

78. No one needs to "get over it"

but we reserve the right as supposedly free Americans to think what we want. The same goes for you. If you want to believe there's some dastardly Nicole murderer out there besides the Juice, you are entitled. As far as I'm concerned, he is innocent until proven guilty on this one and if found guilty, he should do time. Karma and revenge I imagine are best served cold as they say...

[kath]

80. Well, the jury in the civil case thought otherwise - a preponderance of the evidence showed that OJ

murdered two people.

[aquart]

87. Uh huh. So why isn't he still in the movies?

And what was the result of the CIVIL trial?

[truebrit71]

106. I still can't get over how many people don't understand that Not Gulity is NOT the same as...

INNOCENT...

Big, BIG, FRIGGIN' HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference...

OJ did it and almost got away with it....

Nothing to get over...

[hisownpetard]

27. "And this helps the country how?" Well, getting a murderer off the streets is a good place to start!

[WinkyDink]

32. Oh, you won't have O.J. to kick around much longer. ;)

[MountainMama]

45. As I've said.....

ever since the whole double murder went down and I realized he did it......any day O.J. Simpson is in jail is a good day.

[Dulcinea]

46. Maybe now he'll finally be sent away for SOMETHING.

Even if it should have happened in 1995.

[alarimer]

50. I wonder how many potential jurors might find him guilty just to send him away

Which he so richly deserves. I know you are not supposed to consider anything other than the case at hand but how easy is that to do?

Believe me I am not losing sleep over whether or not he gets a fair trial.

[aquart]

86. So he can do whatever he pleases because of your short attention span?

What exactly are you objecting to? The celebrity news coverage? The arrest itself?

As for your remarks, they help this country how?

[shenmue]

93. Because he's a criminal, and we're supposed to enforce the law.

Glad to see you don't care about crime. You remind me of the lady who said, during the Clarence Thomas hearings, that she wished they would all shut up so she could go back to watching her soap operas.

[The Backlash Cometh]

94. Maybe it brings hope to some of us who want to believe that

people eventually get what they deserve, even if the system itself fails us when we expect it to work.

[barb162]

103. self delete

[barb162]

104. It helps by getting criminals off the streets.

The country needs violent criminals on the streets?

[Marnieworld]

2. Wow

Like the kidnapping after hearing the tapes. They were definitely being held there by force. May his arrogance be his downfall. :woohoo:

[Geoff R. Casavant]

3. Let me guess:

He will be given forty-eight hours to turn himself in, and he still has Al Cowlings on his speed dial.

[soothsayer]

5. I thought kidnapping was the wrong charge; I thought it was some term of art that means

you're not free to do what you want (meaning no one was allowed to leave the room)

[sofa king]

10. Maybe "unlawful detention"?

That term is usually used in conjunction with the police and Wal-Mart security when they're stealing babies, but it may also apply to citizens detaining other citizens.

[BadgerLaw2010]

42. False Imprisonment, but that's a non-violent felony. This involved force/threat of force.

That's kidnapping or taking hostages. In Nevada, it's apparently kidnapping.

[LisaL]

113. I believe legally kidnapping could just be preventing someone

from going somewhere if they want to leave.

[BOSSHOG]

6. But now he won't be able to find his wife's real killer

[olddad56]

15. Perhaps he will find the real killer in the prison system...

if he has a mirror in his cell.

[Mabus]

17. It's all part of his plan

He can hunt them in there so he won't have to hunt them out here. Oh wait. :blush: I think I'm confusing my media events. Never mind. ;)

[jeff30997]

19. Lol!

Good one!:)

[chelsea0011]

8. Did you see the film of the people holding the "Free OJ" sign written

on a sheet? It's already beginning.:spank:

[SayWhatYo]

35. heh, if I was there I would do that..

Just for the reactions... Yeah, I know it's messed up, but trolling the internet isn't fun any more. It's time to troll the world. :P

*no, I don't troll DU because I know it's not tolerated here... well, at least to the extreme. :D

[Roon]

11. O.J. is an idiot

and he is getting his just desserts. I hope they lock him up for ten years at least. Ten years is a long time!!

[Hieronymus]

14. Yes, 10 years or longer.

[BadgerLaw2010]

41. He could get ten years on just one of those charges.

[Roon]

51. Yeah, but there is always the plea bargain

and time off for good behavior,bla bla bla...I want him behind bars for ten years!!

[Wilber_Stool]

12. NOT GUILTY. HA !!!!

Do you realize how many people wouldn't have jobs in broadcasting if O. J. had been convicted. Think about it.

[Hardrada]

13. O.J. is an old guy and he will be definitely elderly when

he gets out of the slammer. But as my grandfather said in referring to some of his contemporaries, "There's no fool like an old fool!"

[Vidar]

16. Glad to hear it.

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[kestrel91316]

21. Oh dear. He's gonna have more than a little trouble with a Vegas jury, I suspect.

[lateo]

22. bwahahahahaha!

eom

[Robb]

23. CALL CONGRESS!! RIGHT F#*&ING NOW!!!

:D

[Ellen Forradalom]

96. And Wendy's HQ n/t

[PianoBlack]

24. Well, it is certanly ironic...

That he got away with killing his wife, but he is now going to go go jail for the rest of his life for stealing memorabilia that was probably seized and sold after he killed his wife.

[Bobbieo]

26. Oj was my sports hero many, many years ago and I'm not a sport's person.

Tsk tsk!!!

[Melynn]

83. Yes, he was a great football player

Not so good person. To say the least.

[Roon]

28. I think it's cocaine

from what I understand, coke makes you do crazy stuff like that. Even with the wrongful death conviction, he still had a comfortable life. but they always want MORE.....MORE....MORE!!!!

[Melynn]

84. I think it was coke too.

O.J. seem like a pretty good guy when he was playing in the NFL. I think he got involved with the Hollywood scene and started taking drugs and well, we know the rest.

[hisownpetard]

29. Hey, the way the Feds finally got Al Capone was for Tax Evasion!

And, I'm sure it was an innocent omission, but O.J. killed TWO people -
his wife and Ron Goldman.

[PianoBlack]

39. Oh!

I forgot to add him in my rant. I'm sorry X_X; I am rather forgetful sometimes.

[LisaL]

74. I personally don't see the irony there.

Right now he is accused of a totally different but serious crime.
And he is not accused of stealing, he is accused of robbery. Different things. Stealing (theft, larceny), in my understanding, would be someone taking things when the owner was not present, for instance. Robbery is a different crime.

[PianoBlack]

95. It's more the idea that...

He is under arrest for robbing a man of the same type of memorabilia he would NOT have lost if he had not killed His wife and Ron Goldman. I wouldn't doubt if it was some of the same pieces of memorabilia.

It's like a guy walks into a bank and robs it and is picked up 4 months later for a speeding ticket in the new car be bought with the money he got from robbing the bank and then was found to be in connection to the other crime.

[WinkyDink]

30. Kidnapping? Who does O.J. think he is, an employee of Circuit City?!

They should've shown their receipts.

[eagler]

31. Some are saying that he was setup because the whole incident is recorded

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/17/audio-the-oj-incident-caught-on-tape/

[WinkyDink]

34. Doesn't make him any less guilty. And if one is INCLINED to commit a crime, it isn't entrapment.

O.J. was inclined.

[eagler]

38. Was he inclined to commit a crime - after all he was found innocent (choke)

[olddad56]

37. oh not, not framed again. Probably by Mark Furman.

If the sports jersey doesn't fit, you must acquit.

[LisaL]

65. It does seem like OJ gained some weight since his last mug shot.

:rofl:

[SayWhatYo]

36. So will the cable news networks stop talking it about 24/7?

I mean, I have no problems with them reporting on it here and there, but why must they constantly talk about it?

[mikelgb]

40. zomg

[slackmaster]

49. Sounds like the perfect setup

White People Leave OJ Alone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op6lTQdyacE

[defendandprotect]

52. Does anyone else think that OJ has tried to bring himself to some justice --- ???? I do!!

How could he be living with his conscience . . . I think it was obvious that he had been trying to tell Rose Grier the truth -- as overheard by a prison guard -- and that it is impossible for him to live with what he did.

At least, perhaps that would speak for something of this human being being left.

Also think the recent book was another attempt to try to tell the truth.

Who could stand living with this truth of what he did?

His lawyers kept him pumped up with drugs during the trial -- how else to keep such awful secrets???

"If the gloves don't fit, you have to acquit."

Except, the gloves did fit.

[hisownpetard]

64. O.J. is a sociopath, and a sociopath does not have a conscience. Although you may like to

think that he agonizes over things he's done (e.g. killing two human beings, for starters), he
does not experience those emotions and, therefore, does not have any remorse whatsoever.

[mitchum]

67. No, like many sociopaths, Simpson is going to be done in by hubris

[NJCher]

90. How is OJ like a republican?

No, like many sociopaths, Simpson is going to be done in by hubris

Eventually, their greed and arrogance bring them down, which if you subscribe to current congressional Dem philosophy, one need do nothing.

Did anyone see Dan Abrams the day after this happened? He posited that OJ put the sports memorabilia in the custody of these guys to keep them from the Goldman's warrant. He was trying to cheat the Goldmans out of what is their due, as determined by a U.S. court.

Then the crooks didn't want to give it back and you know the rest.



Cher

[LisaL]

53. One of his alleged victims has suffered a heart attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/18/oj.simpson/index.html

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. Probably all those zeros on his paycheck from TMZ sent him reeling

Puh-leez.

[LisaL]

59. Hah? I don't think that is the alleged victim that was talking with

TMZ.

[LiberalFighter]

54. There is absolutely NO reason to use ALL caps

PLEASE refrain unless making a point with specific word(s) as shown in the subject section.

If the source uses all caps then either find another source or use your word processor to convert to sentence caps.

Thank you.

[alcibiades_mystery]

55. Ridiculous

Prosecutor over-charging as per usual.

Yeah, the guy killed his Nicole and Ron Goldman, but this is a separate incident. Smells like a prosecutor trying to advance politically. People on DU supporting this nonsense should be ashamed of themselves. You don't get a fake mulligan, and it certainly doesn't equal "justice." Justice requires strict adherence to procedure, not fucking metaphors.

[LisaL]

57. Whatever gives you the idea this DA isn't adhering to

procedure?

[knight_of_the_star]

63. Keep something in mind

That for the charges to stick the indictment has to be upheld, and to do that the DA had to convince a judge (I think Nevada is not a Grand Jury state) that there was merit to the charges.

[SayWhatYo]

68. Well, if a non-OJ did it then they would get similar treatment from the law...

they just wouldn't get the same media attention... which sucks, I'm already tired of hearing about.

[mitchum]

66. The postman does always ring twice

[BrightKnight]

69. .

[LisaL]

70. No, he is not being charged with spitting on the sidewalk.

[BrightKnight]

71. sorry

I deleted the message before I realized that someone replied. I would put it back but I don't remember exactly what I said.

The gist of it was that I care that he actually did everything that they say he did. I don't want to see them go after him with everything they have because they want to get him for being wrongfully acquitted.

Other than that I don't give a damn about Mr. Simpson's legal problems.

[Chovexani]

75. I want to know who the hell rec'd this thread

Why is this BS news?

I swear Fox must pay OJ to pop up every once in a while to do/say something stupid.

And before the lynch mob comes after my ass: Jesus on a trailer hitch, I don't defend OJ. I think he did it and got away with it because the LAPD is one of the most racist (and incompetent) orgs in existence. I'm just questioning the blind, incoherent rage people get into when someone so much as utters the man's name. I question why there isn't the same level of national outrage at Robert Blake, Phil Spector.

There was a fascinating documentary on HBO called OJ: In Black and White (or something to the effect) that was even-handed and focused on how people reacted to it, and I think everyone (whether you think he did it or not) should watch it.

[mitchum]

97. But did Blake and Spector play the...uh...little short freak card?

I think O.J.'s "I'm being persecuted because of my race" defense angered many (both black and white)
Wow, O.J...you ARE just like the Scottsboro Boys!
For the record:
I certainly agree with you about both the racism and incompetence of the LAPD
Both Blake and Spector are also guilty

[Chovexani]

101. This "race card" BS gets me

His defense did what every smart defense would have done given the situation, and it worked. Was it right? No, it wasn't, but smart is not always the same as morally justified. OJ's so fucking stupid I'm not sure why they felt the need to tamper with evidence, all they needed to do was bide their time and he'd have folded like a card table. (I tend to think OJ put a hit out on her, which explains why it looked gangland style, but that's neither here nor there) Yes, OJ got away with murder. Yes, it's outrageous. Welcome to life as a black American, where the justice system is inherently broken and you will never see justice done for anything.

I think the OJ case was good for one thing, and that was exposing the absolute racial dysfunction in this country for the world to see. OJ was a "safe" black man, prior to that chase on the freeway. His public image was clean-cut, "all-American", non-threatening. He was a dumb jock that didn't really challenge anyone's racial perceptions; you'd never catch OJ at civil rights march with Al Sharpton or speaking out like Cosby. He was the kind of black person white America could get behind because he was no threat to the status quo. Then he killed a white woman and her boyfriend. I really am not trying to excuse his crimes...the man is a wife-beating, woman hating sociopath and bully who belongs in jail. But I am fascinated by the reaction to what he did. His was a heinous crime, but so was what Spector did, and the evidence is damning. The fame thing isn't even really as big a factor as people make it out to be, OJ was a D-lister at best and if he hadn't committed murder he'd likely be on the Surreal Life or Dancing With the Stars or some other workfare program for pseudo-celebs. (Too bad reality shows weren't big back then, it might have kept his dumb ass off the streets and out of trouble)

I've said it once, I'll say it a million times: if OJ had killed a black woman, no one would give a shit. How many people gave a shit when it came out that Mike Tyson was beating on Robin Givens? Or that poor black woman who was beaten, raped and tortured by those crazy hillbillies in West Virginia?

I just...god as soon as I saw this, I was reminded of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAVI16FSjxU

[mitchum]

105. But it also revealed the hypocrisy of Mr Simpson...

as you point out, OJ was a "safe one" A role that he wholeheartedly embraced. Why he just loved Mr Charlie and saw nothing wrong with Mr Charlie's system. Until...it was oh so convenient to deplore Mr Charlie's system and how it had been keeping him down all of his life.
OJ did not put out a professional hit on her nor did he wield the knive. Let's just say that while OJ was indeed a terrible ex-husband, he has proven to be a VERY protective father.

[liberal renegade]

76. Something is awful fishy...

Thomas Riccio is a 4 time convicted felon with an agenda...Don't be surprised if OJ walks right out the door.....


I don't care for the sorry SOB and like most of us I'm certain he did murder 2 people, however, blame his freedom on 2 very stupid prosecutors......

[LisaL]

77. I don't think being set up is good legal defense.

After all, even if someone is encouraged to commit an alleged crime, how is that an excuse?

[Algorem]

81. He's got to be a crackhead.

[Gravel2008]

82. Too bad for O.J. that Cochran bought the farm!

Maybe now he'll finally be locked up!

[MilesColtrane]

88. There's always this guy...

Sure, he didn't get Jerry, Elaine, George, and Kramer off, but you win some, you lose some.

"OJ a kidnapper? Outrageous, Egregious, Preposterous!"

[tiptoe]

85. As if they'll ever find an unprejudiced jury. nt

[Mike Daniels]

91. O.J. didn't have an unbiased jury the first time either

He just had one that was biased on his side.

[tiptoe]

107. (and that's precisely how the prosecution wanted it: ...

the prosecution's case against OJ was never meant to be won.)

[LisaL]

110. And why is that?

[tiptoe]

115. Did you follow the prelim hearing and/or trials?

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

89. meh..

[shenmue]

92. Hooray!

:party:

[sandyj999]

98. I Believe Once Again He Will Walk

It may take a while but that is what I believe. I would like nothing better for karma to be biting him in the butt but I just don't think it will happen.:-(

[Mike Daniels]

100. Well if the jury is a bunch of star-struck idiots and the prosecution is inept like last time

It's possible that O.J. could beat the rap. However, I think the prosecution will use the last trial as cautionary example to make sure they have all t's crossed and i's dotted before presenting their case.

[LisaL]

112. I guess we will have to wait and see. But it seems to be

very difficult to convict a celebrity, so, I would say, the chances are probably pretty good he won't be convicted. But then again, you never know.

[ileus]

108. OJ's okay!

[Tab]

109. Some people are claiming "celebrity injustice"

when he was originally held without bail (now changed to be established at $125,000)

They forget the last time he was given the "courtesy" of having a day to turn himself in, he grabbed a gun and "ran" for it (in the slow Bronco chase). He's established himself as a flight risk. Why the bail, and why the objection to "no bail"? Because he's so frickin' famous he can't hide?

They should put his ass behind bars. I'm not sure this particular offense (although I'd like to see him pay for the previous, yet "unofficial" one) qualifies for life imprisonment, but he needs to spend some time in the cooler.

15 years might not be a bad idea, and he's what - 60 now?

Works for me.

[Pesky_Hound]

114. Looks like it is going to be a long time until trial

I hope that this story goes away somewhat. But, I think we are going to hear about this until the day OJ is sentenced. That being said, I don't think the failure to prosecute should bear any weight in the case that is now before us. It isn't a non-issue, but it is a separate issue, and OJ looks as guilty as charged.

[Mike Daniels]

118. I have some faith that this will disappear somewhat until we get closer to a trial

Yeah, it's O.J., but what's the angle on this case beyond robbery?

With the Goldman/Brown case there was tons of evidence to discuss, spousal abuse, and the general over-the-top violence of the murder.

There's just no "OMG" factor to this case. Even with it being O.J., how much air time can you spend analyzing an audio tape for evidence? There are no witnesses beyond the principals and I have a feeling that none of them will be telling their stories on TV since they all have somewhat shady pasts themselves.

[Kablooie]

116. It's such a relief to know that people here don't pay attention to non stories like this.