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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 08:58 AM
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Big Drop in Energy Costs Sends Consumer Prices Down for the First Time in 10 Months
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Consumer prices in August fell for the first time in 10 months, as another big drop in energy costs offset higher food prices.
The Labor Department reported Wednesday that its closely watched Consumer Price Index dipped 0.1 percent last month, slightly better than the flat reading that had been expected. It was the first decline in consumer prices since a 0.4 percent fall in October 2006.

Read more: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070919/economy.html?.v=10



In other news, there's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:00 AM
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1. Well, $3 a gallon is better than $3.30.
What ever happened to that presidential candidate from 2000 who said if oil got over $30 a barrel he would act? What was his name?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:01 AM
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2. I have some lovely swampland available at an affordable price
Why do they even try this crap?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:11 AM
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10. I'll buy the swampland if I can
put the brooklyn bridge over it...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:02 AM
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3. someone on a local station
brought out a paper from 1 yr ago, and compared food/fuel prices.

eggs, up 11%
cheese up 20%
milk up 20%
bread up 16%
sugar up 21%
gas up 50 cents per gallon.

Income - stagnant
unemployment (not based on unemployment claims) up 50%

job creation - for shit.

I loved how the WHite House explained (three months ago) that ignoring healthcare, fuel and food, there was no inflation.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:52 AM
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4. 'Big drop in energy costs' ... you're not talking about the USA then?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:04 AM
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5. My, my. Energy costs slip a bit -- however briefly -- and suddenly those numbers...

... are part of the headline and lead paragraph for the story about inflation.

But when energy is spiking, the stories lead with the "core inflation" illusion. You know the routine: "Well, if you don't count food and energy prices, why golly inflation's not that big a deal at all!"

Gawd. It's not even a good scam anymore, as far as scams go. The quality of nonsense from the nonsense-peddlers is really slipping lately. I blame th' Internets. And Brittney -- she NEVER should have married that OJ fella!

:crazy:

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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:35 AM
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7. P.S. re energy prices and the increasingly useless "core inflation" number
From the Seeking Alpha website, on why decreasing oil demand in the Unites States might not have much impact on prices. Because demand in China and India is gonna keep on rising no matter what kind of shape we're in! :(

Could Higher Oil Prices Force a Reassessment of Core Inflation?
posted on: September 16, 2007

(snip)

The possibility of oil prices staying high while U.S. growth weakens raises a number of challenges. We'll focus on one: the expected impact on inflation. The prevailing view at the Fed is that core measures of inflation (i.e., excluding food and energy) are superior for estimating future headline inflation. The basic idea is that rates of change in core and headline inflation eventually converge even though in the interim one index can deviate sharply from the other. But as a forecasting tool, core is said to be superior because it delivers a lower amount of statistical "noise" compared to headline. For those who accept this line of thinking, core measures of inflation of late offer support for the view that inflation's contained.

The main reason for rethinking the wisdom of core comes from the idea that the energy market's cyclical dynamic has changed. For much of the oil industry's history, energy prices have generally followed a boom-bust cycle with prices rising sharply followed by dramatic price declines. But in the 21st century, one school of thought argues that the boom-bust profile of energy markets has ended, or at least diminished substantially. If so, that raises doubts about using core inflation as a superior predictor of headline inflation over time. In other words, ignoring energy if it's now in a long-term uptrend suggests that headline inflation may now be superior over core for gauging the general direction of prices.

In fact, there's some evidence suggesting just that. In the past, core and headline inflation (measured by the relevant personal consumption expenditures indices), have deviated in the short term but eventually converged in recent five-year time frames. But the trend toward convergence seems to have faded lately. Simply put, higher headline inflation doesn't appear to be coming back in-line with lower core. If this continues - which it will if energy's in a long-term bull market - setting monetary policy by watching core inflation will underestimate inflation's trend by more than a little.

One can only wonder if Bernanke and company recognize the risk. Presumably, they do. The Fed, after all, draws on one of the largest economic research teams on the planet. If there's a trend in economics, someone at the central bank is documenting it. That said, the Fed's room to maneuver on monetary policy may be narrower than Wall Street realizes. A lot depends on how energy reacts to a slowing U.S. economy.

More:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/47175-could-higher-oil-prices-force-a-reassessment-of-core-infllation?source=feed




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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:14 AM
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6. Bush "strongarming" oil companies to keep prices low as an offset for the economy
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:39 AM
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8. Apparently my electric company didn't get the memo.



I received my latest bill yesterday and the bill was up about 10% with roughly the same usage.




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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:46 AM
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9. no kidding.Ours was up about 20%-with us doing everything we could to cut back.
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allisonthegreat Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:27 AM
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11. i stay behind with the electric company...It's been hot as hell here.eom
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:38 AM
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12. But oil hit record high $83 barrel....WTF?
This is simple disinformation from Washington....
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:54 PM
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13. The drop in gasoline prices is over
It's up 16 cents in my town in the last 4 days.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:29 PM
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14. Today in Mediafairyland ...
It's that special time of year again ... make consumers feel like things are better than they really are so they spend, spend, spend for the holidays.

The problem for them is that anyone who has gone to the grocery store in the last two months, or even knows someone who has, knows that this report is 100% Grade-A horseshit.

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