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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:21 PM
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Bush calls for expansion of spy law
Source: By DEB RIECHMANN Associated Press Writer

FORT MEADE, Md.—President Bush said Wednesday that a law hastily passed in August to temporarily give the government more power to eavesdrop without warrants on foreign terror suspects must be made permanent and expanded.

. . .

The 30-year-old Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act governs when warrants for eavesdropping must be obtained from a secret intelligence court. This year's update—approved by the Senate and House just before Congress adjourned for an August break—allows more efficient interceptions of foreign communications.

Under the new law—the Protect America Act—the government can eavesdrop, without a court order, on communications conducted by a person reasonably believed to be outside the United States, even if an American is on one end of the conversation—so long as that American is not the intended focus or target of the surveillance.

. . .

Such surveillance was generally prohibited under the original FISA law if the wiretap was conducted inside the United States, unless a court approved it. Because of changes in telecommunications technology, many more foreign communications now flow through the United States. The new law allows those to be tapped without a court order.

. . .

"The threat from al Qaida is not going to expire in 135 days," he said, "so I call on Congress to make the Protect America Act permanent."


Read more: http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_6937642
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:22 PM
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1. If only
his brains were half the size of his balls.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:32 PM
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18. What balls?
;)
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:24 PM
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2. If Chimpy says we need it you know damn good and well we
don't.

What's he working up? Some kinda way he can stay tapped in after his worthless ass leaves OUR White House?

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:37 PM
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6. What makes you think he is leaving?
I think he has no intention of leaving office before he dies.

Who's going to stop him? Nancy and Harry?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:54 PM
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9. You have a good point there.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:26 PM
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3. Bush needs to be incarcerated or committed to an institution. He is a danger to society,
as all madmen are. The man is NUTZ.
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:19 PM
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11. CRIMINALLY NUTZ
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 03:04 PM
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19. Absolutely.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:31 PM
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4. Prepare for total capitulation! nt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:33 PM
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5. "Achtung! Achtung!"
And, for those that care, a repost of a compilation thread (featuring babylonsister, TominTib, seafan, levymg, seemslikeadream, Octafish, kpete, Stephanie and many others) that should be used to indict these criminals and traitors.

"Information warfare ammo-dump #2" (started 6-13-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1104149

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:42 PM
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7. It's like a broken record
skipping and repeating the same passage over and over without end.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:44 PM
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8. they will spy on you regardless of any law as long as they are in power
I think it is right to curb Bush's spy power but in reality the people who do this daily rarely ask for warrants and still spy on innocent non terrorists.

What needs to happen is that the Bush administration and all their people need to be cleaned out of government. Then we can start again knowing that it will be real terrorists who will be spied on not Bush and cheney opponents!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:01 PM
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10. That Is One of the Ways Bush MAKES Congress Give Him What He Wants
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 05:46 PM
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20. lots of skeletons in the closet!
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:40 PM
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12. Congress and our next democratic president, if we get one,
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 01:45 PM by FREEWILL56
will have a great need to put into place more safegards against what bush and the rest of those cronies (unique word for criminals) have been doing to our country and our rights and to make those unammendable and unchangable to the next king george wannabe.

As to this:
"The threat from al Qaida is not going to expire in 135 days," he said, "so I call on Congress to make the Protect America Act permanent."

It should read something like:
And though I keep you in Fear and I always want you to be in Fear that you may be able to crown me or any of my close followers the right to heir (he'd spell err) the thrown of the United States of America that will expire in 135 days and must be made permanent, so I call upon the stupid suckers that allowed me to go this far to make the 'keep Americans in Fear that we may Permanently keep them from having any Rights thus allowing my party to keep My Government in place for all time that we may Rape the country and the world in the name of Greed and Power that is my Executive Right of Protection from following the law of the land I wish to change for Me and My Kind Act' just like the Godfather would've liked it too.
ASSHOLE ALERT: CONDITION RED!!!
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:50 PM
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13. Let's see if I can string two words together...
Umm... NO!

Wait, wait, I can do one better... Umm... HELL NO!
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Sufficient Voice Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:05 PM
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14. Betrayal
I felt betrayed by the Dems that voted for the temporary powers back in August. I really hope they stand up this time. They need to quit fearing looking soft on terror.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:09 PM
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15. The real threat could expire in about 500 days, ...
depending on who's elected to replace Dubya.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:10 PM
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16. Don't give this bastard one inch!!!
He'll take a mile for sure, and ask for another inch.

Impeach!
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Exiled in America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:25 PM
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17. So will Democratic Leadership roll over and let Bush fuck america over again?
Just curious...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 05:51 PM
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21. What kind of question is that?
Of course they will.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:21 PM
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22. funny but horrifying
he really does think all he has to say is 'al qaeda' to get his way
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:11 PM
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23. .
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:23 PM
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24. The question, is he truly evil or truly stupid.
The answer: both.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:35 PM
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25. Please pass a Protect America from GWB Act, instead.
And make IT permanent.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:35 PM
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26. want, want want want....... YOU CAN'T always get what you want!! -bet he does!
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