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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:25 PM
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Girl assaulted on tape found safe, Nevada authorities say
Source: CNN

Authorities are now reporting that the young girl who was assaulted in the sex tape has been located and is safe, with unspecified family members.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/28/sextape.search.ap/index.html



Nothing much else to report -- no doubt she will need lots of help and support.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:29 PM
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1. While I oppose the death penalty
cases like this really give me pause. The perpetrator in this case - it's hard to even imagine a punishment rotten enough for this bastard.


www.scarebaby.com
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:37 PM
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8. I agree, it makes me pause too.
but the death penalty still does nothing for the ill pedophile but it gives everyone else an emotional lift from revenge. And that's not right either.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:23 PM
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21. Well, it does one thing for the pedophile
it makes sure they don't procreate, and keep the cycle of abuse alive. But this is about the only case I can see for the death penalty (if it was my kid, I would do it with my own hands).
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:54 PM
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23. At least future victims are protected! This guy was a repeat offender! nt
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 07:18 AM
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66. Actually, future victims are endangered by imposing a death penalty on this crime
Imposing the DP on anything other than murder will simply lead to the person killing their victim to eliminate a witness, since the punishment for murder is ultimately the same.

I'm against the DP but I certainly understand where people are coming from when they want it in cases like this though!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:51 AM
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64. well . . . if it helps the little girl and her family, then
in cases like this I can support it.

I would have no idea what would be going through her mind right now. But, I am sure knowing this pedophile could never do this to her again would help her healing.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:43 PM
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12. You know, if it were my child, I would probably not be able to control myself and would end up....
....trying to kill him.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:46 PM
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13. And I would probably loan you the gun
There are times when Aristotle's assertion that "the law is reason liberated from passion: just seems wholly inadequate. This is one of those times.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:58 PM
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16. Sexual abuse of children destroys them for the rest of their life.
I know of someone who years ago attempted to adopt a little girl who had been sexually abused by her father. The little girl had major emotional and mental problems. Her father had taught her to do certain things to him and as a result, it was the way she believed the world worked. She continued to attempt it with all kinds of men (even at church). She had to be corrected and often could not even be taken outside of the house. She could not be touched without becoming angry, and she was seething with anger inside. She didn't seem to be getting better. The family grew terrified that one day she'd do something horrific, so the adoption fell through big time. I have no idea where she is today but I'm sure it's no place good.

Also, remember that woman, Susan Smith, that drowned her little boys in the lake then lied about it? Her Republican father (a pillar of the community, according to many) had been raping her since she was a little girl.

Pedophilia destroys human lives. It takes normal little girls, and destroys them and their future.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:18 PM
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19. No. Susan Smith' father had killed himself when she was a little
girl. There have been no allegations whatsoever of molestation by her father.
The allegations were about her step-father, and supposedly it started when she was almost 16.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/smith/susan_3.html
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:22 PM
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28. You're right. Her step-father was her father. Her bio had died.
But it's the same thing. The father abused her sexually. In this case the father was the step-father. But he abused her. The parental figure abused the child. This makes children mentally ill.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:36 PM
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29. She was not raped from the young age at which this girl is.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. I get the feeling you're defending Susan Smith's father. Or is it my imagination? nt
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:49 PM
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32. Her father has killed himself.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 09:50 PM by lizzy
There are no allegations whatsoever of any molestation by her father. I have no desire whatsoever to defend her step-father, but it's not the same situation as with a young child molested from a very young age.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. Her stepfather admitted having abused her sexually.
Whether or not he's dead, is inconsequential to the fact that he destroyed her emotionally and mentally.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:07 PM
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34. You keep confusing the two.
Her father killed himself, not her step-father.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:10 PM
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35. Actually, I suspect you're trolling, so my discussion with you ends here. nt
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 10:10 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 07:32 AM
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68. It wasn't trolling, you were totally not understanding. n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #35
73. She's not trolling, she's posting the facts
Susan Smith's father killed himself when Susan was 6.

Her step-father molested her when she was 16. There's no accusation that her father molested her.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:32 PM
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74. You are misunderstanding.
Smith's father died when she was little.

Mom later remarried. The man she married began abusing Smith when she was about 16.

The poster was, rightly, defending the father.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. I understood that the stepfather raised her. It was he who abused her and cried on the stand for...
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 08:08 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
...having abused her. I was pointing out that she was mentally and emotionally fucked up by her having been abused by the parental figure. Meanwhile, that trolling person was having a never-ending breakdown or pretend-debate on whether it was the long-dead father, or the stepfather that raised her who abused her sexually. It was she who continued to play "no it was the father/no it was the stepfather" games. Again, I repeat sexual abuse of a child fucks up children for the rest of their life, often irreparably.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:27 PM
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79. Smith had only one father. He died.
"father figure" ≠ father.

It may be a sidebar conversation to the main topic (about which we agree), but it is a point worth making.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:23 PM
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70. I would suggest it destroys little boys' futures as well. nt
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:01 PM
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72. Pursuing the death penalty is unnecessary in this case
It would waste a lot of time and money.

Putting the perpetrator in the general population would do the job much more quickly and with a minimum of cost.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:29 PM
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2. That poor girl...
"This is breaking our hearts," DeMeo said. "She shows no emotion during the brutal assault -- no crying, no emotion, nothing. You look in her eyes, her spirit is missing. That's the emotional part of this."

She's gonna be psychologically fucked up for life, I fear. This is so sad.

:cry:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:40 PM
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9. She won't if she gets help.
If she can find someone who she can talk with about what happened, and ensure her she was not to blame whatsover, she will be okay. Children cannot handle sexual abuse without some very deep, psychological issues, but those issues can be treated. Human beings are pretty resilient, especially if they have a lot of support. Victims of sex crimes/assault are victims twice over because this society and many societies cannot deal with sex crimes without somehow blaming the victim. Evil like this happens, but it is so horrific that many people shut down and don't even want to hear about it. We have to, for the vicitm's sake.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:07 PM
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17. Unfortunately, you're probably wrong
It's very, very rare for children who've been sexually abused, particularly at that level, to recover.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:29 PM
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54. I have recovered
and it has made me stronger. I have known several women who had never been sexually abused to have much more emotional/mental problems for some reason.
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Ayesha Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:29 AM
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62. Someone I know was raped at age 3
and she never told anyone until she was an adult. It definitely traumatized her, and affected her relationships, but she is not a sociopath or severely mentally ill. She was a decent loving parent to her kids, worked hard at various jobs, and is a prominent member of her community. People can and do survive horrific abuse and go on to be functional adults.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:53 PM
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22. Sorry but from personal experience I can assure you she will never be the same.
I have been in and out of counseling since I was 15 (happened at 14, I was infinitely more prepped than this little girl was) and still not ok. You can't become the other person again. This poor creature is so young. If I were her parent that guy better hope the state fries him before I could get a hold of him. Sex offenders, especially the ones who prey on children, have waived their rights as humans. Honestly, the very least we could do is chop their privies off.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. Personally, I couldn't kill a possum that was in the hen-house, but some
people need killin', as is said in the South sometimes.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:36 PM
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56. I agree 1000%! He is NOT human. nt
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #22
53. The Counseling Industry: You'll NEVER be "Cured"!!!!
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 11:13 PM by alcibiades_mystery
Now come see us once a week...:eyes:
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #53
57. Is it wrong to hope that someone really wants you to heal? I know its all rigged...
frankly I just wish there was a place to go for healing that wasnt religious or going through my health insurance. And that I could afford heh! Im not into organized religion and the system is crap.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:04 AM
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81. I'm so sorry....
:grouphug:

I wish there were something I could say.

What you wrote--"you can't become the other person again"--is so sad. Who do these arseholes think they are, to steal a little child's personhood for their own sick pleasure?

I'm sure the perpetrator is in pain (that guy is one twisted f**k and I'm sure he's not a happy person), but that doesn't give people like him the right to inflict that pain on someone else. At some point these people just have to say "Whatever happened to me to make me the way I am, I'm not going to do that to anyone else."

Children are so defenseless. (Fourteen-year-olds are too... what are they supposed to do? They can't take care of themselves at that age.) I'm so glad that little girl is found and I pray that she, and anybody who's been a victim of abuse, finds some comfort somewhere. What a terrible burden those memories would be to carry through an entire life.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:47 PM
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47. I Don't Think The "Blame" Applies Here
She is so young, there's really no blaming the victim here. I mean, it's not like an older girl or woman where people can wonder if it wasn't her fault (or partially her fault). Although, because of the way society talks about sex and rape, it is possible she will feel dirty and degraded - that's a little different than feeling responsible.

I think the problem is this screws up the whole way she relates to people and sees the world. At five years old, most of us believed that the world was a good place with nice people and Mommy and Daddy protected us. Most of us hadn't experienced pain or deprivation at that point in our lives.

A young child has no sexual awareness. I would think any good counseling could do is very limited in this case. A rational woman who is aware of her sexuality and then is attacked may recover because she has a point of reference that sex can be something good. That's not to say it isn't hard, because she's more likely to be blamed or feel responsible, but at least she has some perspective.

This child can only relate intimacy to pain and fear. That could make her unable to ever connect on an intimate level. Alternatively, it could mess up her view of sex to where she actively pursues it.

Sometimes you wish it were possible to really wipe some one's memory because if these horrible events could be completely and permanantly expunged it would be her best chance of recovery. After of course, the perpetrator was brought to justice.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:51 PM
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59. Yes a young child does have sexual awareness
We all were born sexual beings. Even babies masturbate, did you know? I have a very good memory of it myself. So when step father started to molest me when I was 3, I KNEW he was BAD. My own Dad never did that to me, none of men in my family molested me except for step-father. Then he raped me for real when I was seven. I couldn't tell anyone because I was ashamed and felt dirty. But thankfully I was often away from home to my Dad, grandparents, boarding school. Then he got caught raping me when I was 12 and was arrested & sentenced to prison for life, but he got out after 9 years in prison. Then he raped a 15 year old girl, sent back to prison. He dropped dead of heart attack at age of 50.

They can't change! Ever!

Anyway, I turned out all right. I am not a screwed up person. Just a strong person. I decided that I'd take my life back. No hatred for him. It's more for my sake than his for me to forgive and let go, then I got free.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:50 PM
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71. Thank you...
Thank you for your candor and strength. There is a lot of confusion about these issues. Somehow people believe that just because the laws "turn on" sexual behavior at 18 or 16 it means that kids and even babies don't have a sexual personality. I think its very brave of you to have had those terrible experiences and still be able to discuss the grey areas of "polymorphous perversity" in a child's development. And the stigmatization of sexual behavior that creates traumatic experience of guilt and dysfunction very often relates to normative conditions in the culture or society... For example... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexuality

"Child sexuality, like adult sexuality, may take many forms and be gauged by different norms in different societies. Thus, a given behavior that is problematic in one society may be normative in another. For instance, observations of early Tahitian society indicate childhood sexual activity was more openly encouraged than normally found in other societies.<27>

"Explorers and researchers such as Etienne Marchand, Adam Johann von Krusenstern, R.C. Suggs (1961), Fredrick O'Brien (1919), and others discovered the Marquesas had unique sexual customs considered deviant to Westerners. Children were permitted and sometimes encouraged to engage in sexual play with other children, encouraged to learn from adults by observation, and experiment with adults but with care taken to prevent activities that would cause pregnancy unless socially beneficial to the family. Western society has changed a lot of these customs so research into their pre-Western social history has to be done by reading antique writings."

The normative mode in our "western" culture promotes intellectual development and focus through the teen years and one could argue that this supports elevated modes of production, and technology and serves to protect our children from physical and psychological harm. One could argue also that the sublimation of sexual desires at an early age fosters development of other intellectual capacities. That's a hypothesis anyway, and can't necessarily be supported or proven, but what's clear is that the normative behaviour is what determines our definition of wrongdoing NOT the innate sexuality of the child. Obviously, a grown man or woman should know what is right and wrong and the fact that in this case a man has so selfishly, and disturbingly forced himself on a girl as young as you or the girl in De Meneo's case is deplorable. I think you don't need me to tell you this, but I thought your statement was so respectable and understanding that I hoped to expand on what you have to say. Thank you again for sharing your experiences.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #59
75. Thank you for sharing this.
If I might ask a question: How did your parents react when your stepdad got caught? And in retrospect, do you think that they should have known that this had been going on for 9 years?

Please ignore this and accept my apology if it's too personal.

You have my admiration for overcoming it.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #59
82. Thank You
For sharing your heart rending story and enlightening me. I am glad to be wrong about the prospects of recovery.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:32 PM
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3. "Safe" being a relative word here
and meaning not dead and in a shallow grave.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:35 PM
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5. "The girl was with family members and Nye County sheriff's officials Friday."
She's physically safe, but not psychologically safe.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:50 PM
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14. She's going to need A LOT of therapy
I'm just glad she has been found and is alive and safe. Now they only need to find the monster that hurt her...
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:34 PM
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4. Pahrump is known as the meth capital of NV
the guy with the tape was in burglary ring? good grief. Thank gawd they found the little girl.. Now Fox News can move on to something else...swear that channel is like watching Nancy Grace.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:36 PM
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6. I'm glad she's alive.
Poor kid. Hopefully they'll get the sex offender.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:36 PM
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7. Phew, now if only cable news would stop showing her picture every 5 minutes..
She can begin getting the help she needs.
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Stump Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:05 PM
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24. You're kidding...
have they really been showing her picture? Idiotic...
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:06 PM
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26. The only reason they found her was because of the pictures.
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Stump Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:14 PM
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27. OK
I hadn't followed the whole story. Now Stump idiot. :dunce:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:01 PM
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52. They didn't have to show her body at all. nt
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FooFootheSnoo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:41 PM
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10. Oh Thank God
This story really, really bothered me. I hope she gets the help she needs and can go on to have a good life.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:41 PM
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11. Thank God she's safe.
But the poor kid has a whole lot of healing to do. :cry:
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:57 PM
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15. But how did she get in harm's way to begin with? That's what I want to know.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:08 PM
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18. Predetors are perfect camaflouge artists.
Oftentimes, it can be the very helpful neighbor or relative who offers to babysit. The fact that most babysitters would protect kids with their lives is the perfect cover for those seeking to exploit children.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:14 AM
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80. I remember a guy who wrote to Ann Landers
he said he was a pedophile by nature (did not act on it) - but said he was shocked at friends/coworkers who seem to have no problem having him "watch" their kids for a while - he said, "As God is my witness I never touched those kids" but he was warning parents to be aware that not all pedophiles look/act like Chester-the-Molester type creeps
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:21 PM
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20. Press conference 7:30 pm pacific
by sheriff dept
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:05 PM
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25. I hope they get to the bottom of who put her in that position in the first place
Why was she at the hands of that monster? Is she in a position where she's likely to be put in such a situation again?

I'm sure that social services will do their job and investigate. But still I can't help but want someone to pay for the harm that was done to that child.

The monster is next. They know who he is and it's just a matter of time now.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:11 PM
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36. Does this mean she was a kidnapping victim?
Or has she always been "safe" with family members?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:20 PM
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37. CNN said the mother recognized the furniture
And that she had no apparent knowledge that this had happened

They also quoted the police as saying the girl was a "happy 7 year old"

Hard to wrap my brain around this one....
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:25 PM
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38. How did the suspect get an access to the child?
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 11:00 PM by lizzy
And the mother had no idea?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:42 PM
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45. They said the mother had no idea that this had been on the news
And that the suspect was a friend of a friend of a friend sort of thing
No mention yet of how he had access
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:34 PM
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40. Their website says the child may have been entrusted to his care
It's hard to believe she'd have been particularly happy about that.

I can't read too much about this...It really makes me ill. I hope they catch the prick who did this to her. :grr:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:46 PM
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46. I'm trying to will the guy into doing something stupid
and getting caught. :grr: How lame is that. Someone has to know where he is...
I really want this guy in custody. NOW.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:54 PM
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60. No, it doesn't mean she was a kidnapping victim.
It's being reported she is with her mother, who had no idea.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:32 PM
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39. Just watched the press conference on Anderson Cooper.
The mother actually recognized both her daughter and the suspect (Chester the Molester) in the tape.

Apparently the girl was 3 when the tape was made, and she is 7 now, with no conscious memory of having been molested. The suspect was a friend of the family in some way, but the sheriff's dept. refused to tell the media how he was connected to the little girl, or how he might have had access to her. The mother had no idea that any of this had happened, and didn't know until tonight about any of this because she hadn't been watching the news.

The media seems to know some things the Sheriff's dept. is not releasing publicly - for one thing, I heard two separate reporters ask about someone named "Stephanie Allen". I don't know if this is the mother, or the person who owned the place where the videotape was made, or a friend of the suspect.

The Sheriff's dept has now asked the media to stop showing her face now that she's been found, and they seem to be complying.

Oh, and the guy who turned the tape in who claimed he had found it in the desert failed a lie detector test.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:38 PM
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41. If she was 3 then, and 7 now, then how could the tape have been
made in 2005? I am confused. When was this tape made?

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:48 PM
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48. And I think they said "desert guy" was being charged with two counts
Posession of child pornography and something else (cant think of the term) that implies that he showed the tape to others
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:39 PM
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42. 'assaulted' in a sex tape - that was NOT SEX, it was violence, abuse...
....oppression, control, and RAPE.

it is NOT a "sex" tape.

:wtf: is WRONG with the stinking media? THAT is not "sex".
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:41 PM
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43. BEST news of all week!
:bounce:
I was really afraid he'd have killed her to eliminate evidence.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:42 PM
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44. suspect is survivalist, navy seal
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 10:45 PM by medeak
watching live stream of press conference after tv cut away...DA says they have information the suspect is a survivalist and can survive long periods without water, martial arts specialist and always carries a knife.

edited to say..DA said the suspect "brags" of being a navy seal..not known if he really is.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:51 PM
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50. Hopefully he's all hat and no cattle too
Someone has to know where this guy is
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:58 PM
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51. sheriff bragging he will be in custody in 48 hrs.
(press conference still going on) validates my family in Vegas telling me they are hearing authorities know where he is?
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:40 PM
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58. I sincerely hope he is NOT a navy seal! Hurl hurl hurl nt
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 07:20 AM
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67. Navy SEAL? Someone find Katie Couric. nt
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:50 PM
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49. I cant imagine how the mother must be feeling
If she had no knowledge that any of this had occurred she must be in agony...
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:35 PM
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55. This news just made my day
and evening, and will continue to affect me over much time.

I am so glad!
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:30 AM
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61. suspect worked for Siegfried and Roy!
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:54 AM
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65. OMG those poor tigers... n/t
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:35 PM
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69. no wonder tiger turned on Roy n/t
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 05:38 AM
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63. I know this is wrong to say, but...
...I would so very much enjoy watching this bastard suffer for what he did to this poor child.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:36 PM
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76. Holy shit...she was 3 years old at the time.
Bet he offs himself before he's caught.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:55 PM
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78. While it might make me unpopular, I can't even begin to
describe what I think this perp deserves, I'd hate to make anyone throw up.
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