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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:22 PM Original message |
Family Mourns Woman Who Died at Airport |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. She does not look like a wild and crazy lady. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. not that they compare in any way, |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
94. There 's a super successful asshole like that who lives across the street |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. you think she (a) always acted that way and (b) posed for pictures when she was? |
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Born Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 04:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
70. maybe it was not suicide as they suggest but.... |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Something is missing from this story. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. This story stinks! If they handcuffed her with her hands behind her |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. The public arena seems to be getting more authoritarian. nt |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I agree and I can't help but wonder what the motivation is behind |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. You would get the same response |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You can, anyone can. It is how one is treated by those in authority that is the issue. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. She needed to think |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. How do you know she was not mentally ill, having a medication reaction? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
89. I'm tired of your shit |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
78. You are correct! nm |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. Your avatar says how I feel right now. All of these stories stink and they are coming |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
85. agreed, there is something missing from this story.... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
75. Me either... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
95. I agree. Maybe she became a real wild woman over missing that flight? |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. If there was wrong-doing I think the NYC Public Advocate will find it out. |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You must be joking |
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Sukie1941 (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. My flights are few and far between |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Travel |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
91. Thank ray-gun for the genisis of that |
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shelster (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
50. joking? |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
79. Exactly....how can anyone say the hell with her because she |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
61. My last one was not anything like that |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hmmmmm. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. I suspect she had an unknown underlying medical problem. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. Which might have caused the anger, but the "strangling"? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. This one smells funny to me. Its horrible, however it happened. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. I remember an incident once |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. got a link to that incident? sounds urban-legendish to me. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. It was legitimately reported but... between us, I'm waiting for the autopsy. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Are you suggesting that they killed her and then are pretending that |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. Are you suggesting that cops don't kill people in jails? |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. Since they didn't define chokeing, i'll give you this. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. That was my thought too. |
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KayLaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Oh, brother. |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Did that happen in Bothell, by any chance? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. not that one, but I remember it too. |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Small world, huh? |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. How about an ambulance? How about a Traveler's Aid Counselor? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. We are all making assumptions about what her intent was after the fact. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I expect a level of service that does not simply handcuff and isolate a screaming person. She is as |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. you don't fly much do you, people run in airports to their gate ALL THE TIME |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. i see people running to their gate every day actually |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Shades of OJ Simpson!!! |
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LaStrega (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. granted ... |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. So do I. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. Interesting article in NY Times on animal empathy ---helping vs. hurting |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. they only checked on her when she stopped screaming! |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Your outrage is justified. The inhumanity of this woman's death sickens me. nt |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Visit your local drunk tank |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Is there any evidence she was drunk? We have the capability of handling these issues |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. No reason to believe |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. exactly |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You are making a lot of assumptions. What if she were schizophrenic and meds stopped working? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. or diabetic |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. There is no right |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Perhaps not, but it isn't a death penalty type action. Explain how one chokes onself |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Re deliberately. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Actually people have been cuffed and/or arrested and been guilty of nothing. Arrest not =guilt. |
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scarface2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. most police are authoritarian fascists.... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Speak for your own cops. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
92. If you mean New York City |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
48. This is very fishy |
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shelster (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I agree, very fishy |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
87. I agree...my intuition tells me that something is missing here and she didn't just happen to die |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
52. CSI: Las Vegas had an episode that sort of echoed this except it happened inflight... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. Some of the reactions on this thread bother me (as do the responses to the |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Adamnmen! |
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Naythan (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. i'm glad i'm not the only one |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Handclasp. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 04:26 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Authoritarians believe the police can do no wrong... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Thank you. . . . n/t |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
77. Thank You |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
93. Amen |
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Savannah_H (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. time span |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
56. Oops. They didn't know she had VIP connections. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. Ok. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Good point! |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 03:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Been Wondering The Same Thing |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:09 AM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Re: Feeling lost. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
76. I know....... |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
88. In a Yahoo news report they said it was Phoenix PD that handled it |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
64. Maybe I'll get flamed for this, but I doubt the cops killed her. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. The cover story is implausible |
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KayLaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
81. How? |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
65. NY Daily News Article |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
71. Soon we'll hear about Post mortem finger bruises on neck....nt |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
74. She probably had a panic attack being locked up with handcuffs on. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
82. Strangled herself trying to get out of handcuffs... hmmm.... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
83. She was killed. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
90. I used to love to fly |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
96. Restraint Asphyxia - Hobbled and laying on stomach... |
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