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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:57 PM
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Breaking News: 3,200 trapped in SA mine
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 04:05 PM by BB1
Source: reuters

3,200 miners trapped underground at S.African mine after accident 4:53pm EDT

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0343276320071003
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:00 PM
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1. OMG! Hopefully that number will be revised downward..........
Maybe they do a better job of maintaining their mines in S. Africa and there will be no additional collapses.
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:03 PM
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2. hope so too.
have no link yet, only Reuters is reporting this so far. No SA newssites, not the BBC.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:57 PM
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13. dupe sorry
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 04:58 PM by MnFats
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:03 PM
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3. Maybe we could do the same?
We don't have that great of a track record either.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:25 PM
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11.  a better job? Mining is the lowest paying job in the city, according to
aids research documentaries about johannesburg. most of the husbands with aids went to joahnnesburg from small towns and became miners.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:56 PM
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16. Yeah. Unfortunately I think the mining conditions in Africa are among the
worst in the world. Heartbreaking.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:09 PM
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30. They are all alive! and being saved. I'll eat my words.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:27 PM
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34. And I'll bet you'll eat them joyfully! Such good news -- thanks!! nt
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:04 PM
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4. 3200??? Good Lord!
:cry:
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:02 PM
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17. When I heard that on the radio I thought I had misheard the actual figure.
I mean... 3200. Dear God, I hope they get them out soon.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:52 PM
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25. Thank God it's only black Africans, not white Christians!
Just a bunch of kaffirs.
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RantinRavin Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:24 AM
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41. So tell us
Have you been a racist all your life, or have you been taking lessons ?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:05 PM
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5. For the record, it's a gold mine, according to MSNBC email. NT
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:06 PM
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7. you're right,
I found a link now.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:45 PM
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32. Anyone know who owns this gold mine?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:04 AM
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38. It's Harmony Gold. Largest gold mining co. in SA, 6th largest worldwide.
They also have operations in Australia, Canada, and Papua New Guinea. Annual revenue about US$1.2 billion. Supposed to have a total of around 48,000 employees.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:06 PM
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6. electrical cable for lift snapped...not a cave in
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:08 PM
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8. That explains the number of workers
Hopefully they can get the cable fixed and get them out of there.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:09 PM
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9. Thanks for the heads-up and the link!
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:21 PM
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10. no problem
SA has my attention. My friends in Jo'burg don't know any details yet. But its night here, so it'll have to wait until tomorrow. Hope I don't dream of falling...
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:27 PM
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12. Now at BBC ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7027122.stm

The 2.2km (1.4mile) shaft was blocked near the bottom, trapping the workers.

Rescuers are trying to use an adjacent shaft to rescue the miners, a spokeswoman for the mine's owner, Harmony Gold Mining, said.

The accident happened at about 0800 GMT and there has been no communication with the miners since then, she said.

The Elandsrand mine is in the Witwatersrand Basin, which holds the world's largest gold deposit.

The mines there are among the deepest in the world.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:06 PM
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14. South Africa has enormous and very deep mines
Fortunately, they also generally have modern technology.

Some of the mines are very old, though.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:34 PM
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15. Thanks for the post
Oh, and welcome to DU.
:toast:
:hi:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:09 PM
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18. 3,000 workers trapped in S. Africa mine
Source: Associated Press

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa - About 3,000 miners were trapped underground Wednesday when a water pipe burst and probably caused a shaft to collapse in a South African gold mine, officials said.

There were no immediate reports of any injuries at Harmony Gold's Elandsrand Mine near Johannesburg. A company executive said officials have been in contact with the trapped workers and expect to rescue them over the next 24 hours.

Harmony's acting chief executive, Graham Briggs, said on MSNBC that the miners have been receiving food and water.

He said the rescuers would evacuate the miners over the next day using a small cage in another shaft, but the process would be a slow one.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_re_af/south_africa_mine_3



Scary stuff.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:09 PM
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19. Bill O'Reilly will probably call it a vacation for the miners. n/t
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:09 PM
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20. And Ann Coulter will say it's their fault for sticking around when a pipe was about to burst
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:11 PM
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21. Remember the Utah mine from August?
This is what happens when there are no safety regulations - when "free-market" conservatives rule, people die.
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pdefalla Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:33 PM
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22. What a wonderful thing for the miners
Barbara Bush: "Well, those mines are so much cleaner than the huts that the workers live in, that it really is working out quite nicely for everyone!"
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:41 PM
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23. Oh no! That's horrible.
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 06:41 PM by Kajsa
It's terrible when one is trapped,
now 3,200?

The mine owners had no backup
lift in case of an emergency?

When will safety be a top priority
with the bigwigs in mining?

I fear for the men trapped.

;(
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:01 PM
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27. Apparently there's a backup shaft, but they can only bring up a certain number of people at a time.
Maximum of 75 was what the BBC article said. Factoring in lifting time, it would take a day or so to evac all the miners.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:46 PM
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24. did the import US safety officials, or something?
my gosh, my town has 17,000 people. the idea that one out of every six or so is gone ust boggles the mind.
Another way to measure it is this way. The amount of gold they have taken out of this place is less than 5% of the entire cost of our Iraqi occupation, yet, their loss of life is about equal.

one and a half miles underground, and how do they get the hell out of there?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:58 PM
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26. Blood Gold. nt
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:32 PM
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31. One reason why I don't own gold
or gold mining stocks. The other reason is the raping of the Earth that accompanies mining. "Blood Diamond" was very good. Changed my opinion of Leonardo DeCaprio completely.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:11 PM
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28. 74 of 3000 now rescued:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071004/ap_on_re_af/south_africa_mine

74 of 3,000 rescued from S. Africa mine
By MICHELLE FAUL, Associated Press Writer

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa - Rescue workers early Thursday evacuated the first 74 of about 3,000 miners trapped more than a mile underground by an accident. None of the miners were injured and the evacuation was expected to take about 10 hours.

None of the miners still trapped more than a mile underground at the Harmony Gold Elandsrand Mine were in any immediate danger, company and union officials said.

Peter Bailey, the health and safety chairman for the National Mineworkers Union, said the first 74 miners to be evacuated reached the surface shortly after 1 a.m.

"They are all doing well," said Bailey.
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Stump Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:38 PM
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29. Sounds like...
there will be an happy ending to this. Great news!!!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:50 PM
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33. They are being rescued & all is looking good - here is the link
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:33 PM
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35. update:Rescuers bring 150 S.African miners to surface
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 09:45 PM by cal04
Rescue teams brought the first 150 miners out of 3,200 trapped deep underground in a South African gold mine to the surface early on Thursday, mine and union officials said.

Mine owner Harmony Gold is confident all the miners will be lifted to the surface in a small elevator at the Elandsrand mine near Carletonville, southwest of Johannesburg, Chief Executive Officer Graham Briggs told Reuters.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L04671314.htm

Rescuers have now begun moving workers out through an adjacent shaft, but only 75 can be hauled clear at a time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7027122.stm

After Thibile's group rescued, Harmony's acting chief executive Graham Briggs told The Associated Press that another 75 would be evacuated shortly, and after that they would be brought to the surface at intervals of every 25 to 30 minutes.

"It's going to take some time because we are doing it carefully," he said, adding the rescue could take 10 hours. "Nobody is injured, nobody is hurt, nothing like that at all."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071004/ap_on_re_af/south_africa_mine
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:39 PM
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36. THANK YOU!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 11:03 PM
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37.  450 trapped S.African miners rescued
Rescue teams brought the first 450 miners out of 3,200 trapped deep underground in a South African gold mine to the surface early on Thursday, mine and union officials said.

Mine owner Harmony Gold <HARJ.J> said the rescue operation, which brought up the first miners after a 15-hour ordeal, was going smoothly, but the powerful mining union said it suspected negligence was behind the accident that trapped the workers.

Chief Executive Officer Graham Briggs told Reuters he was confident all the miners would be lifted to the surface in a small elevator at the Elandsrand mine near Carletonville, southwest of Johannesburg.

"There have been no injuries or deaths ... It may take as long as 10 hours, the cage (lift) is travelling fairly slowly to avoid risks ... I'm very confident all will come out," Briggs said.

But the powerful National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) said it suspected negligence and Harmony's practice of mining 24 hours per day caused the accident.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L04486311.htm
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:35 AM
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39. looks like this will end OK.
nothing to see here, move along. And keep buying our stock.

calls for a second exit in the mine arise, as well as calls for safety-exit. Apparently their exits are currently under water.

Who's doing the Barbara Bush imitations? We'd like to book you for the company.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:38 PM
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43. Update: ALL have been rescued!!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:09 AM
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40. Welcome to DU! The situation does seem to be improving.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:35 PM
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42. WHY has this not been reported on

ABC or NBC World News?

The LA Times had nothing on this story.

Why?
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