Bush says US 'does not torture'

[maddezmom]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON - President Bush defended his administration's detention and interrogation policies for terrorism suspects on Friday, saying they are both successful and lawful.

~snip~


We stick to U.S. law and international obligations," the president said, without taking questions afterward.

White House and Justice Department press officers have said the 2005 opinions did not reverse the 2004 policy.

Bush, speaking emphatically, noted that "highly trained professionals" conduct any questioning. "And by the way," he said, "we have gotten information from these high-value detainees that have helped protect you."

He also said that the techniques used by the United States "have been fully disclosed to appropriate members of the United States Congress" — an indirect slap at the torrent of criticism that has flowed from the Democratic-controlled Congress since the memos' disclosure.

"The American people expect their government to take action to protect them from further attack," Bush said. "And that's exactly what this government is doing. And that's exactly what we'll continue to do."



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071005/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_terrorism

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conduct questioning is the new term for torture :eyes:

[AlinPA]

1. ...and "Abu Ghraib was just a college prank". nt

[tekisui]

2. The Pentagon has the videos and many in the Senate have seen

the videos.

Videos and pictures of sodomy, rape, child rape, torture and murder during *harsh interrogations*.

Why haven't Our Senators done anything to hold these war criminals to account?

I've all but given up on Impeachment coming from this Congress, but WHO will hold the War Criminals to account? Anyone?

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

6. We can only hope these people will

Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/WorkingDocs/Doc07/EDOC11302.htm#app3

[tekisui]

10. Thanks for the link.

And for the hope!

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

18. My pleasure!

:hi:

[CoffeeCat]

3. Bush is right...the US 'does not torture'....

The crafty little bastard is right, "The US does not torture".

Junior can say that because Alberto Gonzales, when he was White House Counsel, crafted this
new legal definition of torture which included the following statement--"only organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death" constitute torture punishable by law.

Please don't forget this America.

They re-defined the legal definition of torture.

Bush knows exactly what he is doing. He says we don't "torture", because he's defined torture as
anything short of organs failing or a person dying.

This is so perverse and so disgusting...

[tekisui]

5. Even that doesn't cover it.

Some, perhaps many, were murdered during harsh interrogations. Some died from organ failure. Detainees were beaten to death in Abu Graib, Guantanamo and probably at the CIA black sites.

He, Gonzo, Rummy and others ordered torture, by any definition of the word.

[Generic Brad]

37. The US does not torture, but our hired mercenaries and contractors may

That would be another way for him to parse words and technically feel like he is telling the truth.

[mallard]

39. yes, it's merely a bad technical definition...

.. of what constitutes torture.

This is the Bushco answer to Clinton's re-defining "sexual contact", if anyone gets testy.

Sickest mo-fo's of modern time. Not double standards - no - it's polar standards for who gets their basic civil rights in this world.

Lets' be proud of our heritage and try these criminals for violating the constitution. Stringing them up won't do.

[rodeodance]

4. for the most part-his words are useless at this point.

[Magleetis]

7. Liar n/t

[Maeve]

8. Bush* doesn't even know the meaning of the word 'torture'

And I mean that literally. :eyes:

[Solly Mack]

9. I watched...he sat in a chair...like he was sitting on a throne

he was somewhat slumped and ever so smarmy

[VP505]

11. Bu$h says

" the US doesn't torture". I say Bu$h is a liar, can I be proved wrong?

[jimnasium]

12. Of course *'s guvment doesn't torture... they Outsource! n/t

[thetaoofterri]

13. How do we know you are lying??

Your lips are moving

[daleo]

14. And Nixon was not a crook. n/t

[trusty elf]

15. smirkus maximus's definiton of "trustworthiness".

[pattmarty]

16. Little experiment; let's put his nuts in a vise and see what he calls that.

[Dukkha]

17. if you believe him raise your hand

[Zandor]

19. Bush: 'This government does not torture'

Source: CNN

President Bush on Friday defended his administration's methods of interrogating terrorism suspects, insisting, "This government does not torture people."


"When we find somebody who may have information regarding a potential attack on America, you bet we're going to detain them and you bet we're going to question them, because the American people expect us to find out information, actionable intelligence, so we can help them -- help protect them," Bush said.

Bush said his administration sticks to "U.S. law and our international obligations."

He said, "The techniques that we use have been fully disclosed to appropriate members of the United States Congress." ...




Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/05/bush.torture/

[BOSSHOG]

20. There are weapons of mass destruction

- we will be greeted as liberators
- Sunnis and Shias get along
- Iraqi oil will pay the bill
- we only need six more months

the republican party, a perpetual lie machine.

[Vinca]

21. Whenever his mouth moves we know he's lying. nt

[Cleita]

22. What a bold faced liar. He doesn't even care that we know he's

lying. I wonder if he drinks so he can get up and lie to the world and not care that everyone knows he's lying.

[krispos42]

23. We DON'T torture

"torture", verb, the act of using a rusty antique foot-powered dental drill to make "terrorist suspects" scream in pain and say whatever we want to hear.

"interrorgate", verb, everything except "torture" (see above) to make "terrorist suspects" say whatever we want to hear.


"terrorist suspect", noun, an abritrary person believed through evidence, guesswork, Magic 8-Ball prophicies, or random dart throws to have come connection to a terrorist organization that is not BushCo.



So, see, we don't 'torture'!





Candybar! Candybar! Oh, yeah! Candybarcandybarcandybar!!!

[DrDan]

24. in other words, the boner knows. . . .

and trent, and mitch, and ted . . . .

[tekisui]

26. The Pentagon has the videos.

[emald]

25. LIAR e/t

[scarface2004]

27. no..but your sadistic cia black ops guys do!!!!!

bush sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tridim]

28. He's the "diggerer" as in "hole digger"..

It's not surprising that he doesn't know the golden rule about holes.

[golddigger]

29. lying piece of dog...

Shit!

I WANT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS OF MY LIFE BACK!





Sorry for yelling.:mad: :grr: :nuke: :rant:

[Zandor]

30. Rockefeller calls bullshit

Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the West Virginia Democrat who heads the intelligence committee, scoffed at the president’s assertions that his administration has been forthcoming.

“The administration can’t have it both ways,” the senator said today. “I’m tired of these games. They can’t say that Congress has been fully briefed while refusing to turn over key documents used to justify the legality of the program. The reality is, the administration refused to disclose the program to the full Committee for five years, and they have refused to turn over key legal documents since day one.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/washington/05cnd-torture.html?hp

[BooScout]

31. and I say Bush is full of shit and a damned liar. n/t

[0rganism]

32. Thus illustrating the difference between premise and conclusion

If one applies standard and accepted definitions of torture to certain evidence and accounts of those who have been processed through the US legal/penal system and those of collaborative countries via rendition or client states such as Iraq, then one arrives at the conclusion that the US does indeed torture and endorses the practice in other countries as well.

If one takes as given that the US does not torture or support the practices of countries that do, then the only conclusion that can be reached is that the standard and accepted definitions of torture are somehow incorrect when applied to the US and its affiliates.

The only way a bush supporter can rationalize this is through intense compartmentalization.

[SpikeTss]

33. Makes you wonder if Bush ever heard the excuses fascists make when confronted with their crimes

Because he uses the same sad excuses for his crimes, just like they do

[Vidar]

34. Bush says lots of stuff- very little of which has a basis in reality.

[olddad56]

35. Cheney probably held Bush underwater until he agreed to make that statement

[Flea]

36. What a sick lot

The only way to get our reputation back is to arrest all of these demented neocons and put them on trial for warcrimes.

We cannot set idly by and watch this evil being done in our name.

[fasttense]

38. The former CIA agent on Keith Olbermann last night

called the information the CIA gets from tortured prisoners dribble.

Why, do these idiots think torture is about getting accurate information and saving American lives? I understand the sheeple, who worship the bushes as their god, think torture might provide some evidence that is accurate. They are easily manipulated. But people in the CIA, FBI and the administration know that torture does not work.

The administration, CIA and FBI merely torture because they like it, because it gives them someone to punish for the perceived wrongs against the US. It is like the child who kicks the puppy after he has been punished. It is an immature, brutal and expedient method of venting frustration.