Brown aide plays down US talk of Iran threat

[go west young man]

Source: Gaurdian UK

But it is the link with Cheney that is the strongest, leading to the widespread view that the organisation is in effect his own creature. The group was conceived in March following a meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition at which he was a keynote speaker. Last month it emerged that Cheney had asked a number of right-wing think tanks to start building the case for war against Iran.



Read more: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2185477,00.html

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Proof that even the British are fully aware that Cheney is a war mongering psycho.

[L. Coyote]

1. Cheney's role is just more reason to believe it is a political ploy. Distract from IRAQ!

and you distract from failure, lies, deception, American and Iraq deaths, Blackwater USA murders, Abu Garib, oil theft, millions of refugees .....

Damn right they want you to focus on IRAN!

[cstanleytech]

3. To be fair though

Iran is a threat they just are not really as much as a threat as the Bush administration is trying to make them out to be.

[...of J.Temperance]

4. To whom

Is Iran a threat?

At this point in time, Iran only has conventional weapons....unlike Israel for example, who have a ton of biological and chemical weapons as well as a fully operational nuclear program.

Most of the ME Arab countries are under direct threat from Israel's Bully Boy Tactics, as was shown just the other week, when Israel took it upon itself to drop some bombs inside Syria.

Every nation has the right to take whatever measures they see fit in order to protect themselves from hostile attacks....so Iran has that right as well, just like Israel has that right.

To me, it seems that Iran is under direct threat from Israel....I can't see how Israel is under direct threat from Iran.


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[cstanleytech]

5. If they would manage to get

nukes? A threat to everyone as they just don't appear to be a stable or reasonable government to me as for trusting the Bush administration that they are trying to get them? Tough call.
I mean the Bush administration does have a history of providing information that later turns out was wrong plus they have been caught in more than one lie but then again Iran is not much more trustworthy either.
As for Israel *shrug* they have a right to defend themselves sure but I still don't agree with our government supporting and protecting them by blocking so many UN resolutions.
Edit: edited for typo :P lol

[...of J.Temperance]

6. Of course

It wouldn't be a good thing for Iran to get nuclear weapons, but realistically speaking, they're at least 5-10 years away from having that capability.

The W Administrations mad rush to start a war with Iran, therefore obviously ulterior motives are at work here....W has how long left in office, a year and a few months....compared with 5-10 years for Iran gaining nuclear capability, IF they're EVER going to gain nuclear capability, as I commented earlier, it's the Iranian Ayatollah who calls the shots, and he seems to take an entirely different view on the nuclear issue to the Iranian President.

The W Administration's failed policy of Pre-Emption, I really can't see who would go along with this now, not after the disaster Iraq's turned out to be.

It seems that the only nations who are gagging for war with Iran, are the United States and Israel, and of course as ever with American foreign policy, Israel and their cronies AIPAC are once again dictating American foreign policy and demanding that the United States gets into ANOTHER costly and POINTLESS war, in order to save Israel's ass and ensure that ONLY Israel is the Top Dog in the Middle East....Israel's real fear, is that another nation in the Middle East gets what they have, which would then end Israel's cherished status as Bully Boy of the Middle East, as we know for decades, EVERYTHING in the Middle East MUST happen on Israel's terms and to heck with all of the other Middle Eastern countries.

Israel does have a right to defend itself, but so do ALL other countries in the Middle East, and that includes Iran....listen to the rhetoric and the banging of the war drums that's been coming from both the W Administration and from Israel....obviously because of this, Iran does feel under direct threat from both the United States and Israel, therefore, logically speaking, it does make perfect sense that Iran would take all measures possible to ensure that they can defend themselves from a hostile and almost certainly unprovoked attack on their nation.

Regarding the United States only blocking UN Resolutions that seek to pull Israel in, of course, its beyond pathetic....and beyond hypocritical....we had the W Administration babbling on and on about how Iraq had not adhered to such and such UN Resolution, yet Israel adhere's to NO UN Resolution's nor does Israel take any notice of the Geneva Convention, as they showed with their Collective Punishment of Lebanon.

Personally I think EVERYONE that's not Middle Eastern should get out of the Middle East, that way we leave them to fight it out with each other and sort out their own problems....there's never going to be a chance at peace, when one nation in the Middle East is 100% supported by the United States no matter what they do, and the rest of the Middle Eastern countries can't even sneeze without getting threatened by the United States....the double standard really needs to be put out to pasture, period.


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[cstanleytech]

7. Yup

however while our country needs the oil in the middle east it will keep its nose buried there and sadly I don't see us getting out and staying out any time soon atleast not while our country has an interest there, well our country and the oil companies because lets face it they do play a role in telling alot of those in our government what to do though its up for debate on how much of a role they play.
Anyway I hope Bush will show some modicum of intelligence and not start another war in a 3rd country as our military has enough problems with the 2 its dealing with now.

[Zhade]

17. They don't have nukes. They're not a threat.

Why are you so afraid?

[ronnie624]

19. Your statement is neither fair,

nor is it consistent with historical documentation.

The proof of behavior is in what one does, and Iran does not have a history of overt aggression against other countries. The United States on the other hand, has displayed throughout its history, a well documented pattern of aggression against many countries, including Iran.

I don't know how you have arrived at your conclusion that Iran is a threat to the US, but you certainly did not do it with evidence.

Obviously, it is the United States that is a threat to Iran. An honest individual, could not possibly see the matter any other way.

And saying that Iranian leaders are 'crazy', or that you don't trust them, is proof of nothing. It is only your poorly informed opinion.

[...of J.Temperance]

2. Hopefully

Hopefully Russia and China will step in to prevent W and Cheney starting a new war, that could effectively begin World War III.

Not that I'm a fan of the Iranian President, I think he's a little bit unstable, but he's done nothing to warrant having Iran subjected to a hostile attack....all he's done has been to shoot off at the mouth.

As everyone knows, the Iranian President doesn't have any real powers, Iran is controlled by the Ayatollah, and I believe that the Ayatollah on more than one occasion, has specifically stated that he's against Iran having nuclear weapons and is indeed against any nation having nuclear weapons.

Like with Iraq though, the reasons that they want war with Iran, are to get hold of Iran's oil and to protect Israel's whiney little ass.

I dunno, I think ENOUGH American and British soldiers have died already for Israel, it should be up to Israel to protect itself, it's an outrage that they expect and demand American and British soldiers to die for them....I can confidently say, that Israel certainly wouldn't lift a finger to help ANYONE else out, they wouldn't send Israeli soldiers to die to help protect America and Britain....I didn't see Israel stepping up to the plate to offer full support and full assistance for instance after September 11th or after the suicide attacks on the London Underground.

America and Britain owes Israel NOTHING, last time I checked, Israel wasn't the 51st State nor was it a British Colony.

[Omaha Steve]

8. 'Brown will support strike on Iran'

Source: Jerusalem Post

British Premier Gordon Brown has agreed to support US air strikes against Iran if Iran were to carry out large-scale attacks by militant proxies against British or American forces in Iraq, the Sunday Telegraph reported Sunday afternoon, quoting unnamed senior Pentagon officials.

Reportedly, Washington sources said Brown has been informed of US plans to launch limited air and special-forces raids against Revolutionary Guard bases.

After talks with President George W. Bush in July, Brown left US officials with the belief that Britain was "on board" for a military response - but only if Iran was proven to be behind a big militant attack or if an incident similar to the kidnapping in March of British sailors occured again, the British daily reported.

According to the Sunday Telegraph, the US wanted Britain's Special Air Service Regiment to take part in special-forces raids inside Iran and has requested help from the Royal Navy to combat Iranian retaliation in the Gulf. But no decisions have yet been made.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257243582&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

[angstlessk]

9. Oh, wow...jpost says pentagon said...what a perfect shield..

both can deny it...if Brown says he never said such a thing!!!

[orpupilofnature57]

10. No decisions have been made yet? Shrubs newest Arbor

[Greeby]

11. Bear in mind the Telegraph has been proven to be liars in court

So forget a pinch of salt, use the whole shaker

[badgervan]

12. Source: The Jerusalem Post

Bet they're licking their chops. To hell with how the vast majority of Americans think.

[Kagemusha]

13. Quoting the Sunday Times means nothing either. They're left and right hands.

They're both part of the Murdoch machine. Just saying it here for anyone else reading this - I'm sure you already knew.

[hedgehog]

14. but, but, but the kyl lieberman amendment doesn't mean anything!

[no_hypocrisy]

15. I'll consider this true if Brown doesn't immediately disavow his support as

reported.

And if Brown does support an attack on Iran, I want to know what exactly does the BFEE have on him or what threats were made against him and/or his family.

[DLnyc]

18. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that disavowal.

Found this from 5 days ago:

"Chilling signs that Brown will back a US attack on Iran" :

. . .

Behind the spin are chilling indications that Brown is preparing to back George Bush's plans to escalate the war by bombing Iran.

Veteran US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh claimed this week that "the bombing plan has had its most positive reception from the new government of Britain's prime minister, Gordon Brown".

Hersh quotes a "senior European official" and a "retired American four-star general with close ties to the British military", both of whom say Brown blames Iran for attacks on British troops in Iraq and is willing to back airstrikes against the country.

But both officials admit that the evidence for direct Iranian involvement in the Iraqi resistance comes from US intelligence sources – whose credibility is in tatters after the lies about WMD peddled in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.

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http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=13140

[Zhade]

16. Mel Sembler - who LIEBERMAN took campaign money from.

Remember that.

[Megahurtz]

20. I'm Glad To See

someone in Britain with some sense.

Leave Iran alone!