Giuliani sends sharp warning on Iran

[Scurrilous]

Source: AFP

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"Republican Rudolph Giuliani on Tuesday bluntly guaranteed that if he is the next US president, Iran will not get nuclear weapons, even if it takes a military strike to stop it.

The former New York mayor's hawkish warning came as the 2008 election campaign raced towards first party nominating contests in less than three months, and the US nuclear showdown with Iran emerged as a premier foreign policy issue.

"We have seen what Iran will do with ordinary weapons," Giuliani told a forum of presidential candidates organized by the Republican Jewish Coalition.

"If I am President of the United States, I guarantee you, we will never find out what they will do if they get nuclear weapons, because they are not going to get a nuclear weapon."





Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071016/pl_afp/usvote2008republicansiran_071016155400

[sabra]

1. Newsweek: Used (Chicken) Hawks Flock to Giuliani's Team

http://www.newsweek.com/id/42460

Neocons can't help but slink around Washington, D.C. The Iraq War has given the neoconservatives—who favor the assertive use of American power abroad to spread American values—something of a bad name, and several of the Republican candidates seem less than eager to hire them as advisers. But Rudy Giuliani apparently never got that memo. One of the top foreign-policy consultants to the leading GOP candidate is Norman Podhoretz, a founding father of the neocon movement.

Podhoretz is in favor of bombing Iran because of the country's unwillingness to suspend its uranium-enrichment program. He also believes America is engaged in a "world war" with "Islamofascism" and that Giuliani is the only man who can win it. "I decided to join Giuliani's team because his view of the war—what I call World War IV—is very close to my own," Podhoretz tells NEWSWEEK. (World War III, in his view, was the cold war.) "And also because he has the qualities of a wartime leader, including a fighting spirit and a determination to win."

Giuliani clearly hopes this image, born of his heroic performance on 9/11, can carry him to the GOP nomination and to the White House. But is he really the candidate who will "keep Americans safer" if his primary tactic is to go "on offense" in the "long war," as he often puts it in his campaign stump speech? Critics will say that the neocons already tried that—in Iraq. Still, what's left of the neocon movement does seem to be converging around the Giuliani campaign, to some degree, because he embraces their common themes: a willingness to use military power, a tendency to group all radical Islamist groups together as a common enemy, strong support for Israel and an aggressive posture toward Iran. "He's positioning himself as the neo-neocon," jokes Richard Holbrooke, a top foreign-policy adviser to Hillary Clinton.

Among the core consultants surrounding Giuliani: Martin Kramer, who has led an attack on U.S. Middle Eastern scholars since 9/11 for being soft on terrorism; Stephen Rosen, a hawkish professor at Harvard who advocates major new spending on defense and is close to prominent neoconservative Bill Kristol; former Wisconsin senator Bob Kasten, who often sided with the neocons during the Reagan era and was an untiring supporter of aid to Israel, and Daniel Pipes, who has advocated for the racial profiling of Muslim Americans. (He's argued that the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II was not the moral offense it's been portrayed as, though he doesn't say Muslims should suffer the same.)

[xxqqqzme]

19. And

I think ALL neo-cons should be required to register w/ the FBI, the way immigrants once were required to renew their visas. With all neo-cons registered, we can keep track of their activities and subvert their plots against the Constitution - ALL enemies foreign and domestic after all.

Anybody take 'moral offense' to that?

[jayfish]

2. ...umm

What exactly has Iran done with ordinary weapons again?

Jay

[mike_c]

4. please don't introduce facts and logic into this discussion....

It's so exciting and patriotic to pound our chests and scream.

[Vincardog]

5. ...umm

What exactly was heroic about his performance on 9/11?

[Cha]

9. Exactly, please see post # 7..

The only reason rudy is perceived as anything but a fascist is the relentless, prevasive, drumming of corporatemediawhore propoganda.

[Megahurtz]

6. Yeah, That's A Good One,

>>>"We have seen what Iran will do with ordinary weapons"<<<

Is this guy on glue, or is he just talking out of his ass?:wtf:

[NanceGreggs]

3. No one can hear ya, Rudy ...

Our radio communications system has been down since 1993 - when are ya going to replace them again?

[Cha]

7. And the FireFighters in New York City

are sending ghouliani a Sharp Message on his competency to run for anything except back home to judy.

""Standing Their Ground

by digby

Brave New Films has released a powerful new film today about a subject that has the potential to knock Rudy Giuliani's campaign to its knees. Most of us know that the NY Firefighters are mad as hell at Giuliani, but this films starkly lays out one very serious reason why: the radios.

Giuliani came into office in 1994, shortly after the first WTC attack. He knew then that the radios didn't work properly and yet it took him seven years to deal with the problem. And when he finally got around to it, he gave Motorola a sweetheart, no-bid contract for radios that were never tested in advance. When the NYFD got them, they didn't work and they had to be reissued the same radios that had proved inadequate in 1993.

That's why, on September 11th, the firefighters didn't hear the warnings to get out of the buildings. The cops heard them. They mostly got out. Their radios could get the right frequency. The firefighters' old radios couldn't.

In perhaps the most chilling moment of the film, the audience gasps in horror as Giuliani unctuously testifies before congress that the dead firefighters were heroes for "standing their ground."

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3612837&mesg_id=3612858

[olddad56]

8. Ladies and Gentleman. Rudy is your next President.

He is running on the fascist ticket. I like his chances because his people rig the elections.

[truthisfreedom]

10. Giuliani "sends" sharp warning? Don't you have to be an official to do that?

What a blowhard.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

13. I'm sure Iran is trembling...

because the former Mayor of New York is rattling his sabre.

Not to be outdone, the current 4th Ward Alderman in Des Moines, IA is treatening to invade!

[rodeodance]

11. hey, Rudy-----Putin said to back off

[Orsino]

12. I can understand Rudy's being too afraid to backtrack on Iraq...

...but why does he think selling war with Iran is going to get him anywhere? That dog doesn't hunt the way it used to.

[Javaman]

14. another pissant false leader in the making.

our own little il duce in the making.

[sinkingfeeling]

15. Now we have common citizens threatening other countries! Hey, Rudy, if I'm

ever President of the US, I guarantee you, I'll put you on the next boat back to Italy.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

16. "Vote for me if you want more war." Yeah, that'll go over well. Not. -nt

[BlueStater]

17. What a clown

He's a birdbrain mayor with no foreign policy experience and he's saber rattling at Iran. He needs to pull his head out of his ass.

[olddad56]

18. no, I think he needs to keep his head up his ass. It might be our only chance.

[ohio2007]

20. He sounds like Hillary

she has the same points about Iran

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3029137&mesg_id=3029137

[ryanmuegge]

22. Maybe they used the same focus group.

[ryanmuegge]

21. Warning? He's a former mayor of New York? Is the election over? What authority does he have

to give a "warning"?