Lieberman Lumps Democrat Rival Dean in with Bush

[Khephra]

Lieberman Lumps Democrat Rival Dean in with Bush
Wed January 7, 2004 06:26 PM ET

By Andrew Clark

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"We cannot replace one set of extremes with an extreme anger of our own," he told a campaign event in New Hampshire.

"I am not George Bush or Howard Dean," said Lieberman, who has built a record of working across the political aisle. "Both would take the country down the wrong path on many of the most important issues of our day."

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"We Democrats who are running to replace George W. Bush also have a big choice to make," he said. "We can try to match him pound for polarizing pound. Or we can rescue our country from divisiveness, bring people together and move forward."

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"I don't think we should have to choose between a president who has made too many enemies around the world and a Democratic candidate who seems to act as if he doesn't understand that we have enemies around the world," he said.

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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=4090102

[w13rd0]

1. shut up joe

jstfu

[cthrumatrix]

38. I think Joe is "jealous"...... no scoreboard....and Dean kicks his butt

[pscot]

41. What a Putz

If he'd been as tough on Bush when he had the chance he might be running for re-election right now instead of watching his political career come to an end.

[lcordero]

2. the three are indistinguishable

[Democrats unite]

3. Way to go Lieberman!!!

eom

[annagull]

4. We Democrats?

So who is Desperate Joe going to support if the choice is Dean or Bush? Wait, I think I know the answer to that question. Joe, take a seat in the hall next to Zell.

[Lefta Dissenter]

5. for Pete's sake, Joe

cork it!

[w4rma]

6. Lieberman knows about divisiveness as that's what Lieberman is. (n/t)

[billbuckhead]

7. It's so ironic to see Lieberman and Dean calling each other DINO's

They're both right.

[saltpoint]

8. Right now in Iowa and New Hampshire --

-- there are a whole lot of Democrats who consider themselves to the left of Joe Lieberman. A right-of-center Democrat is still left of Lieberman.

If the polls are even somewhat right, Lieberman is only representing (at best) 10%. It's probably more like 5% at this point.

I wonder if the people on his staff realize their good efforts are being eclipsed by at least 90% of Democratic voters, whose ideology is left or even way left of Lieberman's?

I don't know what constituency Lieberman's gunning for, but it may be that he walked into the wrong movie.

[54anickel]

37. Repugs that don't want Shrub?

[saltpoint]

42. 54anickel --

it could be, I suppose. I had't thought of that. I feel like I missed something now, but I just wish that Lieberman weren't so conservative. I appreciate the heads-up.

[King_Crimson]

9. HEY JOE...

DRY UP AND BLOW AWAY!!!

[dolstein]

10. Sounds about right

Both Dean and Bush are well outside of the mainstream.

[bobbyboucher]

13. Help me here,

I support lots of our guys and girls running, but I cannot seem to get a grip (based upon what I see around here and in the press) on whether Dean is too liberal or not liberal enough. It seems like many here agree with Lieberman and say he is far to the left. Yet others equate him with Newt Gingrich because of his support in the past for certain policies. He's NRA and that is bad to many, yet he is too liberal.

Which is it?

[dolstein]

20. It depends on which Howard Dean we're talking about

Are we talking about the Howard Dean that, as governor of Vermont, was regularly endorsed by the NRA and often found himself at odds with the more liberal elements in his state party?

Or are we talking about the Howard Dean who was "reborn" on the presidential campaign trail and has emerged as the darling of the internet-savvy left?

[annagull]

25. Reborn or born right the first time, better than Lieberman

After all, Joe now considers himself a Clinton Democrat:

But the truth is, after much reflection, my feelings of disappointment and anger have not dissipated. Except now these feelings have gone beyond my personal dismay to a larger, graver sense of loss for our country, a reckoning of the damage that the President's conduct has done to the proud legacy of his presidency, and ultimately an accounting of the impact of his actions on our democracy and its moral foundations.
Because the conduct the President has admitted to was so serious and his assumption of responsibility on August 17th so inadequate, the last three weeks have been dominated by a cacophony of media and political voices calling for impeachment, or resignation, or censure, while a lesser chorus implores us to "move on" and get this matter behind us.
http://www.australianpolitics.com/usa/clinton/impeachment/lieberman.shtml
(from the New York Times 29 November, 1998)

[Isere]

11. Is there something particularly fascinating about Lieberman

that prompts you to start so many posts about him? Just curious....you don't seem to support him so why are you so interested in him? DU is certainly not very Joe-friendly so perhaps you just like to see if you can get a rise out of the troops?

[0rganism]

12. Oh come on, this is an LBN forum, and khephra is posting LBN

If the LBN happens to be about Lieberman making an ass out of himself, so be it.

[kysrsoze]

40. Personally, I'm always quite amused to read the Lieberman threads

He's such a f*ckin' jackass.

[Khephra]

14. Unless there is a new rule I'm unaware of

Dean supporters like to know who is attacking him whenever it happens, like the supporters of many canidates here. I read up on Dean and find more Lieberman info than most others...at least that hasn't been posted here yet. I post what interests me that I don't see up here on DU. Lieberman's attacks on Dean interest me, so I read such articles, and so on and so on.

Oh yeah, and I disagree with Lieberman's politics, as do many of us here. I don't think he's a DINO, but he's sure someone that I think is totally out-of-step with the mainstream of the Democratic Party.

I bet you thought I wouldn't admit that, huh?

[Isere]

32. OK, that makes sense

That's what I thought. It's funny that everyone piles on Lieberman for piling on to Dean, but I rarely see threads about Kerry, Gephardt et al who are equally piling on. It is an election and not a coronation, you know, and Lieberman is doing exactly what he is supposed to do.

Dean feels free to criticize the Democrats in Congress but his supporters want no criticism in return. I guess I don't really blame them, but I'm really worried about how well this is going to serve Dean if he is the nominee.

By the way, I have contributed to the Dean campaign. In fact, I got a recorded call from him last night asking for more $$. Right now, I doubt he would get my vote, however, as I have not been impressed with his readiness or his ability to appeal to Democrats who are more moderate.

I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't start all the threads that you want, only to point out that I have noticed how many of them are negative threads on Lieberman. Just a point of interest. Obviously I don't share the animus towards Lieberman that is so evident at DU.

[King_Crimson]

15. Don't Mess wit'

da Kef!

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[ozymandius]

17. Asshole pot, I'd like you to meet asshole kettle.

[leftchick]

39. LOL.... that was

perfect! Thanks... :)

[progressivebydesign]

18. Is there one Joe fan on DU?

I was just wondering.. I have yet to see one post in his favor. Poor guy... Dean is like Bush, too far left? Helen Thomas was reported as saying recently that she's never seen such vile attacks on a fellow party candidate during a primary. How lovely... we've sunk to Newt/Rush lows... I'm so proud.

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[Blitz]

26. What a vicious slur

Not that I haven't seen it before.

[Oreegone]

21. Can anyone say

Pathetic?

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[Norquist Nemesis]

24. He says what he believes, I suppose

Unfortunately, he hasn't figured out that he needs to switch parties.

[Norquist Nemesis]

23. I'll say pathetic

Joe needs to go. What demographic is he going for anyway? Just can't figure him out!

I am not saying this to be racist or anything, but I think he believes he has the Jewish vote in the bag and that will be enough of a base. He'll be playing the poor me victim soon.

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[stickdog]

28. Hey, Joes, what's worse than the mushy middle?

The Bushy middle.

[dusty64]

29. The more he speaks the

more I loathe him. This primary can not end soon enought, I am growing as tired of some of the candidates as I am the repubs. Wheres the hook, get him off the stage.

[nodehopper]

30. well, that's...ironic?

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[skippysmom]

33. thanks joe

for doing the repukes' job for them!

why, oh why, won't he just go to the GOP?

[maddogesq]

34. A parody is in order.

With apologies to Mr. Hendrix...

Hey Joe, where ya going with those lies in your hand,

I'm going down south, way down Crawford Texas way,

I am selling my soul to W, so I can be free,

Ain't no Librul Democrats, gonna put a rope around me.

[Arugula Latte]

35. Just when I think I can't possibly be more disgusted with Joe...

he goes and opens his frog-like piehole one more time...

[Zech Marquis]

36. put a sock in it Joe

:eyes: the man nevers ceases to amaze me...please stfu and go away Joe, I'm begging you!