Laura Bush accuses Dems of demagoguery on SCHIP

[Lone_Star_Dem]

Source: The Hill

First Lady Laura Bush said Sunday that she is much more involved in policy than many people think and then went to bat for her husband on children’s health care and foreign policy.

Calling the state children’s health insurance program (SCHIP) “a perfect issue” for Democrats to demagogue on, Bush waded into largely uncharted public territory for her by taking exception to the party that opposes the president.

The first lady appeared genuinely upset about the Democrats’ tactics on the issue.

“It’s really easy to blame people for so-called voting against children,” Bush said in an interview on Fox News Sunday. The first lady went on to say that the bill would cover children who are not poor and added that the program is often used to cover adults.

Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/laura-bush-accuses-democrats-of-demagoguery-on-schip-2007-10-28.html

[Beelzebud]

1. Is that why Bush trots out the snowflake kids at every anti-choice event?

Laura Bush can go fuck herself.

[papau]

8. Someone should ask Laura how women's rights are doing in Afghanistan & Iraq post her photo op n/t

n/t

[ThatsMyBarack]

57. What are the snowflake kids....

....at anti-choice events? :shrug:

[Shipwack]

70. If I recall correctly,

"Snowflake Kids" are the children that appeared with Bush at a photo-op after he vetoed some sort of pro-choice bill (or signed an anti-abortion bill).

They are called that because
1)they were created from frozen zygotes or eggs that could have possibly been destroyed
2) by some odd coincidence(?), they were all white.

Sorry if I'm fuzzy on the details, but I'm too busy to use the google at the moment.

[Supersedeas]

90. integrity -- not so much with Pickles...its not about the children, its about Dimsons rep.

[roguevalley]

80. her botox has penetrated her brain. this is a no win for her. she needs

to shut the hell up.

[C_U_L8R]

2. Being a former school teacher, Pickles should know better

Demagogy (Demagoguery) (Dema from Dímos, Greek ?????, "people"; and agogy from ägein, ?????, "to lead")
refers to a political strategy for obtaining and gaining political power by appealing to the popular prejudices,
fears and expectations of the public — typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using
nationalist or populist themes.

Hey Pickles, you're married to one.

[beltanefauve]

6. No kidding!

These people have been peddling crap like, "It's your money, not the government's money" and have been accusing us of being "tax-and-spend Democrats" for years. Look who's calling the kettle black?! STFU, Laura, and go set up house in Paraguay. History will not be kind to you and your husband no matter how much you try to sugarcoat it.

[TommyO]

72. She married a Bush, she clearly doesn't know better.

[LiberalFighter]

73. I don't believe she was a school teacher

My recollection is that she was a school librarian.

[PaDUer]

77. From the various papers..

I've scanned through,and bought a few, pickles supposedly is going for the big D due to finding her honey-bunny having an affair w/ candi-girl...I bet a lot of you also caught the headlines at grocery stores waiting to check out..and now she's sticking up for him..although she HAS to portray the lovable, adoring wifey, or mama's going to be down her throat..Yes, those papers are doing a number about this, and it's not just one rag paper that's doing the story.

[Fridays Child]

3. Let them eat cake. Huh, Laura Antoinette?

[dickbearton]

45. Laura Bush is a stooge.

[lonestarnot]

4. Picklepuss go fry some eggs and sew a shirt, and can a couple peaches.

And stand by your man... eeeeeek :puke:

[AzDar]

5. Okay, you murderous twunt...if you want to put yourself 'out there', re: your

simian husband's disastrous policies, then you are fair game.
(That's right... I said 'twunt'.)

[beltanefauve]

7. I like that!

Suits her perfectly!

[Yael]

13. Well, from her own lips:

First Lady Laura Bush said Sunday that she is much more involved in policy than many people think

Sounds like fair game to me! :thumbsup:

[Baby Snooks]

9. "Pickles"

She was aptly nicknamed "Pickles" Her brain obviously was "pickled" at some point.

[uppityperson]

10. If a repub does it, is it called repubagoguery?

[shanti]

11. oh my GOD

"the bill would cover children who are not poor and added that the program is often used to cover adults." you mean, it might actually be used to.....to.....help sick people????

we can't have that, pickles, now can we.... :eyes:

[Yael]

12. Oh the horrors!

I guess health care only matters when it is a middle-east photo op, eh Laura?

[Bitwit1234]

14. Oh gee whiz now Laura Bush is an authority

on bills and what they cover. Does Miss Marion the Liberian read each and every single solitary thing in these bills, that she knows so much to vilify the democrats on. Gosh most of the members of congress, republican and Democrat don't read the whole bill.

But then she had her points written down didn't she. Does anybody know the email address for her....I can't find it.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

15. an interview on Fox News Sunday

Brought to you BushCorpTV.

[flordehinojos]

16. she has cojones, doesn't she?

even the tone of her voice sounds false !

[Mend]

17. if Larva hadn't actually killed her boyfriend but crippled him

like the young Frost boy who was hurt in a car accident, and if this dead but now crippled boyfriend didn't have health insurance, would she have pushed his wheelchair over a cliff?

[Cha]

37. Thanks for giving me the

name that she shall be known by..It's more descriptive and I'm getting tired of pickles.

:wtf: was larvae's propoganda cohorts doing to Graeme Frost?

They're trotting larvae out there to spread the propoganda since bushit is less popular than larvae now.

[lamp_shade]

18. Oh Shut Up Laura

[mwb970]

88. Pickles is vapid enough to run for the Republican nomination.

Talk about no ideas and no message. Sheesh!

[Roland99]

19. How's that fighting gang violence going, Pickles? Oh, it's not? Well, S T F U !!!!

[ClintonTyree]

35. Actually, it's going pretty good.....

a lot of them are in the Army now, selling drugs and stealing weapons for resale later. Since the Army has dropped it's standards tremendously just to hit their reduced recruiting goals, and offered signing bonuses of tens of thousands of dollars, gang bangers are finding the Army a lucrative alternative to street crime. They still get to run the gangs, but now they have the protection of the U.S. Army to back them up.

Of course Laura the "Gang Czar" had absolutely NOTHING to do with this phenomenon since the title was just a bone thrown her way to make her think she's an actual productive member of society. What else does she have?....besides Valium and Bourbon, that is.

[TwilightGardener]

20. STFU, you bitter old saucehound!

[Felinity]

21. From the heart, LB

Call your pharmacist and get back on the Prozac, or Opium, or whatever will put you back to sleep.

Oh, and shut the fuck up.

[niyad]

22. wow-- from almost divorcing the simian to, now, acting as his hatchet man? how much did you get

paid off, pickles? you supposedly hated the limelight-why are you suddenly the photo-op queen?

[virgdem]

23. Good Lord, but the hypocrisy is simply stunning...

this from a party that has perfected the art of demagoguery. Go take another prozac, Laura, and leave us the hell alone.

[LibDemAlways]

24. This from a wealthy woman whose health care

comes courtesy of the taxpayers. The arrogance is beyond belief, but not surprising.

[rodeodance]

28. “The president is very anxious to work with Congress and to come up with something that both he and

[rodeodance]

25. I thought she looked rather awful today. pea grean outfit, flat hair and I think she

has had more 'eye lifts".

[last_texas_dem]

26. If Pickles was really that intelligent politically

She'd know that the best thing for her to do is stay out of politics. The right-wing and the Repugs admire because they think of her as the anti-Hillary, who just keeps her mouth shut about all of her "hubby"'s business. And the moderates and Dems who like her or don't mind her think that way because they think of her as harmless. The quickest way for her to lose popularity in both camps is to start spouting off, especially defending Shrub on a move he made that is so politically unpopular.

[Cha]

39. larvae doesn't have a thought in

her brain celless head..she's trotted out by the pr guys who should know what you're sayin'.

[rodeodance]

27. "Bush also insisted the perception of her staying out of her husband’s policies is false"

.........Bush also insisted the perception of her staying out of her husband’s policies is false.

“The fact is I’ve been involved for a long time in policy, and I think I just didn’t get a lot of coverage on it,” Bush said. “I was stereotyped as being a certain way because I was a librarian and a teacher…which are considered traditional women’s careers.”

Bush has been most involved with foreign policy in Africa and Burma. She said African women recently told her daughter Barbara that the president saved their lives.

She sidestepped a question about whether she weighs in on the president’s policies toward Iraq and Iran, shifting the focus back to Africa and Burma.

[LiberalFighter]

76. Who were those African women? Were they fake natives like

the fake reporters at the FEMA press conference?

[rodeodance]

29. She is working on her Legacy you know.

[cascadiance]

44. "As many kids here in this country, you know were overprivileged anyway,...

... so what we have now is working very well for them. We don't need this SCHIP and it's raising of our taxes..."

She has a family legacy to follow, that's for sure!

:grr:

[sutz12]

30. Funny, though...those evil demogaugic Democrats have convinced 80% of the population nt

[Amonester]

31. "children who are not poor"

as if queen laura 1 would ever know how to define "children who are not poor"

[UrbScotty]

32. Cry me the Potomac River, Laura (nt)

[otohara]

33. Appeared Genuinely Upset

the key word is "appeared" - they shove her out there to get sympathy for the devils.

[bluesmail]

36. Laura Bush

after slamming into a guy and killing him, then have someone "fix" the problem, she's probably indebted to ?? and they are saying do as we say, or else. She was a democrat in Texas for crissakes. The faceless people must have something on her to keep her in line.

[GOPNotForMe]

34. Shh, Laura. It's better when you don't speak. nt

[graywarrior]

38. Another war criminal added to the woodpile.

[young_at_heart]

40. What a major hypocrite!!

With her 'Stepford Wife' smile and blanket condemnation of all things life-affirming, she is is without a doubt the poorest example of a First Lady ever!

[Vincardog]

50. What else would expect for the Worst (p)Resident EVER?

[The Wielding Truth]

41. Telling the truth that working families sometimes need help

with the medical care of their children is demagoguery? Lying about everything to help the oil company profits is what,patriotic???????:banghead:

Sick twisted republicon brain washing is what it really is.

[madrchsod]

42. since bush was so pissed off during his last press conference...

well his last -"fuck you guys i ain`t answering your fucking questions"..he`s sending out laura.again laura has to cover for her hubby`s failures. it`s been here lot in life to answer the phone when someone calls for georgie...

[BobTheSubgenius]

43. Demagoguery???

Pot, meet Kettle.

And...as if this gang (and I use the word advisedly) of plutocrats has THE FIRST CLUE of what "poor" even means. When Babs focused her beautiful mind on an analogous situation, what she came up with was the pronouncement that being housed in a sports stadium after their city was drowned was the best thing that could have happened to 'those people.'

Who here doesn't wish their mind was as beautiful?

[JerseygirlCT]

46. Why do you hate children, Laura? nt

[Evergreen Emerald]

47. she actually said that most of the money is going to adult health care

And that is a big lie. Of course, she was not called on that (Faux news) probably helped her write her response.

[YDogg]

48. who gives a fuck what mrs bush thinks?

[Faygo Kid]

49. She has a platform to speak from. It's posted here and elsewhere, right?

She sounds more and more like her soulless mother in law every day.

Eleanor Roosevelt and others have used their position as "first lady" for good things, and I'm glad that people cared what she said. Too bad Pickles can only whine about people being mean to her husband instead of sticking up for the working poor and their families.

Noblesse oblige.

[fenriswolf]

51. she is right

“It’s really easy to blame people for so-called voting against children,”

it really is easy to blame people......because it is wrong.

[Joey Liberal]

52. Laura loves King George and hates America n/t

[Snarkoleptic]

53. Enough about the little people...get me more Xanax and champagne...

[spotbird]

54. Laura and the Burka Babes

That interview is a hoot. Laura's insight that ME women are people too, was crucial.

Why is BushCo. so concerned about Burma? Is there oil there?

[sutz12]

61. Burma is providing key examples on quelling dissent. nt

[Tanuki]

68. Yes, plenty of gas and oil there (Burma).....

http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/burma/

[L. Coyote]

55. It is getting really difficult to parade out an R with over 25%. Laura is replacing George!!!

It is the best remaining strategy they have, if they want the base to believe the lies :rofl:

[monmouth]

56. I think Babs had a "word" with the first lady and told her she must do her job....

or else....

[goddess40]

87. She sure is taking after that vile women isn't she

Bab's is one vile human it's not surprising the crud she spawned.

[CoffeeCat]

58. Don't blame Laura folks....

...she's got her own demographic on which she is focusing---the children
of wealthy parents who can afford to purchase them their own personal
libraries--complete with one of those rolling ladder thingees.

She cares for children. Just not the ones who have parents making less
than seven figures.

[DeanDem10]

59. Laura

Dems are Demagogues?

This from the spouse of the demagogue-in-chief? Day after day of GWB threatening death will befall us if we don't surrender our Constitution to him? He's the decider, he keeps telling us. He and the Cheney-mobile driving us to the edge of the abyss, all the while telling us we have no choice. I don't really think Laura ought to be saying anything about demagoguery. Or perhaps she is as culpable as George. It does provoke some consideration: What kind of person would spend her life with GWB?

[debbierlus]

60. They have NO idea what 'not poor' means

Inflation

Plus huge insurance costs

Plus huge food costs

Plus huge education costs

Plus huge basic necessity costs

Plus huge housing costs

Plus huge gasoline costs....

It makes a NOT poor person pretty damn poor. How many of us are barely hanging on despite two earners in a household?

To live in an even modicum of comfort is beginning to take UPPER MIDDLE CLASS WAGES. (A simple house, a good grocery order every week, a decent vehicle, & basics for the kids - I am not talking about new cars or luxury items either)....

The poverty standard in this country is LUDICROUSLY low. I would love to see them live on 300% of poverty wages. Then, tell us about not being poor.

Fuckers.

[KingFlorez]

62. Well, I'm bowled over

What said what just so stunning and eloquent :sarcasm:

She really should keep her mouth shut, because she sounds silly.

[Mrspeeker]

63. We didn't elect you so SHUT THE FUCK UP Laura!

And BTW, we didn't elect your husban either so tell him to shut the fuck up to!

[onehandle]

64. She'll never get the Batman at this rate.

[LynneSin]

65. You go Laura!!! How dare Democrats use children's health for their own selfish purpose

:sarcasm:

[Homer12]

66. How about her husband's actions killing them in Iraq and...

Afgahnistan.

[sandyj999]

67. And we should care what Laura thinks because?

She chooses to live with an idiot so I don't much care what she thinks.

[sandyj999]

69. I have no respect for an opinion coming from someone that chooses to stay with an idiot. n/t

[and-justice-for-all]

71. Fuck off pickles!!!

Not only are your 'going to bat for your cocain alcoholic worthless husband, you are also batting for the insurance fraud industry as well.

I see right through her and their ilk, if we had more SOCIALIZATION of the things that work for the majority, we would not have all the problems we have now. If we left it up to those rethug nazis, you would be asked for your credit card number before the Fire department would respond to your call.

Health care should be nationalized for the sake of the people, in a just world it would have been 40 years ago. If I could I would dig Nixon up and burn whats left of that piece of shit.

Fuck You Pickles, take another Zanny or have an Oxy with that fat bastard Limpballs!!

[Eagle_Eye]

74. Easy words from a woman who's children are healthy

She would sing a different tune if she had to pay for a sick child.

[shaniqua6392]

75. Has she been taking lessons from her mother in law???

I hate her insipid smile.

[llmart]

86. Yes, she has.....

I clearly remember an interview with ole' Babs aka George Washington, when she said President Clinton was a demogogue.

So, yes, she's taking lessons from that old gasbag. You don't think she could have thought up that word on her own, do you? She's just as much an ignoramus as her husband.

[Triana]

78. WHERE are her statistics? Show us the "children who are not poor" that...

..the program would cover? And adults?

How many?

Where?

[Botany]

79. Please

"Bush said in an interview on Fox News ...."

[BenDavid]

81. Well hell! No wonder this administration is so

f****d up with a response like that. DAMN! I thought at least Pickles had more intelligence but I reckon if you live you the moran all those years its bound to rub off on you.....Talk about someone being a "dunce".....Damn!

Ben David

[silverojo]

82. God forbid you help adults and kids you don't deem poor

You rotten, evil, Xanax-hoovering bitch! :grr:

[Up2Late]

83. Hey Laura! Shut the Hell up!

Who asked you anyway? Like you've ever had to deal with anything even close to this problem.:grr:

[bedazzled]

84. the woman is nuts -- finally gone around the bend

living with george will do that to you. i wouldn't want to have to live with the karmic debt that she's carrying

[0007]

85. Laura is showing off her new maneuver on licking herself.

junior uses others for the task

[bdamomma]

89. she is as fucked up as her husband.

[baldguy]

91. "Do what my husband says, OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!!"

[Demeter]

92. Does Laura Even Know What She's Saying?

Does she know what "demagoguery" means?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagoguery

"Demagogy (Demagoguery) (Dema from Dímos, Greek δῆμος, "people"; and agogy from ägein, ἄγειν, "to lead") refers to a political strategy for obtaining and gaining political power by appealing to the popular prejudices, fears and expectations of the public — typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist or populist themes.

The early 20th century American social critic and humorist H. L. Mencken, known for his "definitions" of terms, defined a demagogue as "one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots."

Though this definition emphasizes the use of lying and falsehoods, some point out that demagogy does not require such, but that skilled demagogues often need to use only special emphasis by which an uncritical listener will be led to draw the desired conclusion himself, seeding a belief that is self-reinforced rather than one based on fact or truth.

Demagogues may make use of logical fallacies, though persuasion may require no use of logic. While it may not rely heavily upon outright lies, the use of half-truths, omissions, and distortions are what define demagogy — it is, in essence, giving bad-faith arguments for the purpose of political gain......"


The only bad-faith, logical fallacies in this argument are coming out of her hubby's mouth.

[Javaman]

93. And I accuse moron* and pickles of being a monarchy. nt

[Arugula Latte]

94. Laura -- I'm sorry they cut out part of your brain when they did your bad face lift. nt

[sakabatou]

95. To Pickles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

[HughBeaumont]

96. Ramping up the campaign for History's Worst First Lady, I see.

Although she's got a long way to go to hit Babs-In-Law's lofty standard.

[defendandprotect]

97. Every time his numbers drop further, they send Laura out -- she's a killer -- !!!!

[Generator]

98. Oh I'd call her a bitch

but that's insulting to female canines. What a waste of a human being-shilling for that thing she married.