Huck: We Need To Amend The Constitution, Bring It In Line With God

[brooklynite]

Source: Talking Points Memo

At a Michigan campaign event last night, Mike Huckabee gave an interesting reason for why he wants to amend the Constitution to ban both abortion and gay marriage: Otherwise, the Constitution would be in conflict with God.

Huckabee first observed that some of his opponents don't want to amend the Constitution on both of these topics. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God," Huckabee said. "And that's what we need to do, is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards."

Read more: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/huck_we_need_to_amend_the_constitution_bring_it_in_line_with_god.php

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Mike, thanks for playing. Lovely parting gifts back stage. Our next Presidential candidate comes all the way from...

[krispos42]

1. And only Huck knows what God wants

So vote for Huck, or you hate God.

"There is no God but God, and Huckabee is his prophet", summerizes it up nicely, I think...

[roguevalley]

77. this country would never allow it. no matter how mad I get at the

idiots out there that seem to number more than they do, this I know.

[puebloknot]

97. Wishful thinking! This country has already allowed "faith-based"...

...programs which are heavily funded and which are in complete contradictio to the principle of separation of church and state.

We all need to become more aware of what is involved in the National Prayer Breakfast and The Fellowship that is behind it. Who could be against prayer? you might say. What The Fellowship espouses is very scary.

"This country" is no longer what we fondly remember from days of yore....sadly!

[roguevalley]

113. this country is going to throw them out. I pray that Huckabee is the

nominee. i come from an enormously idiotic area that has turned around over the last few years. its one thing to talk about this and another to do and live under it.

[defendandprotect]

120. Roughly, where are you --- and how did all this good news take place????

[roguevalley]

179. small town Alaska, a bible belt's bible belt

It took immigration of people from other places, television (no joke) and young people coming to their senses. I cannot express how biblically stupid this place used to be. It would be equal to living in Jerry Falwell's pantry. If this place can change, everywhere can.

[defendandprotect]

190. I'll keep my fingers crossed-!! I hear Alaska is becoming much more of a vacation destination

now with warmer weather --- !!!

How much weather change are you feeling there?

As someone has said . . . "No one said religion was good for mental health!" ---

I have some ex-in-laws of my son's living in Jerry Falwell land --
amazing how many people are comfortable with that!!!

[roguevalley]

210. our weather is contrary. we finally got a bit of snow and now the sun

is out and part of the forecast predicts rain. I could die. :) Come on up. This place is a wonder.

[puebloknot]

170. Please tell me it's Texas and that all my relatives have recanted! Please! nt

[roguevalley]

178. not Texas. sorry.:(

[defendandprotect]

191. Texas . . . the outlaw state . . . ?

[defendandprotect]

119. I wouldn' t say that "the country has allowed" any of this religous BS . . .

but when the reigns of power are taken over by fanatics --- a la Bush/Cheney --- and I'd include Huck, in that --- then what the public wants whether no war, or no draining of our Treasury,
or no attacks on Social Security or Medicare doesn't matter!

These fanatics just go on and our Congress is NOT responding . . . but I think we've all noticed that, haven't we?????????????????????????????

Specifically, when Congress lets go of their power to declare war and turns it over to the White House, then we have a system that is broken --- and broken by the dishonest people among us.

THIS should have been preventable --- !!!

[puebloknot]

174. I agree with you, and happily stand corrected.

This harks back to the accusations made against the citizens of Germany, Japan, Italy to the effect that their national character deficiencies allowed tyrrany to take root. We could look at our own character deficiencies, but the Constitution and the Bill of rights should protect our democracy from our own failings as citizens! We the People have been shunted aside for corporate/religious interests and, as you point out, the dishonest fanatics among us who want to impose their own narrow worldview on the whole country.

I feel *so* betrayed by the Dems we elected in 2006, who were going to turn things around. We need the essence of a "D-Day Invasion" in our politics (speaking as the daughter of a man who was involved in that invasion in France).

Thanks for weighing in!

[defendandprotect]

193. Yes . . . I used to really look down on the German people for seemingly

having stood by while all that was going on ---
but finally, as we can see here, we're all being tortured by this administration ---
the world is being tortured by them--!!

There are just too many ways to corrupt a people's government ---
and Bush/Cheney have certainly gotten their fingers onto the right levers to do it!!
PLUS we have this infuriating Congress which does nothing!!!
The most important thing they could do would be to impeach Bush/Cheney ---

There were, of course, religious elements in Germany's failures --- it was a 90% Christian nation --- !!! I think about 70% Catholic and heavily influenced by the Pope.
I remember the poet Gertrude Stein saying that their problem was "being obedient."
Religous training does that to you.

Stein had been in France during the war years and she went in immediately actually to talk with and study the people.

Don't know if you read Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" --- I really haven't read all of it yet --- got thru first chapters --- and then went to "conclusions."
However, like Latin America, the people have to organize and have MANY, MANY leaders.
Too easy for them to knock over just a few here and there. Look at the 1960's . . .
boom years for assassinations!!

These people can only have come to power thru political violence and stolen elections ---
and these computers came in during the mid-1960's!!!

[puebloknot]

195. I'm reading Shock Doctrine now. Have read End of America, by...

...Naomi Wolf. And I recommend Haffner's "Defying Hitler."

[defendandprotect]

218. Have "End of America" --- and pretty familiar with the material ---

NOT familiar with Haffner's "Defying Hitler" and will try to catch up with it ---

[mwb970]

200. Hitler mentioned God and the "Fatherland" in every speech.

Religion does funny things to people's minds....

[defendandprotect]

219. Right --- and I meant to post this last night but didn't get to it . . . . .

"Well, what do you really object to in my treatment of the Jews?
I have certainly been consistent --
I am doing what the Catholic Church has already done for fifteen centuries.
The difference between the church and me is that I am finishing the job.
Adolph Hitler quote from "Confronting anti-Semitism"


Just as Nixon and his administration studied Nazi propaganda films --
Hitler also studied the Vatican and its rituals ---
They both had a similar list of enemies ---
and, in common, their use of females as breeders ---

Hitler also suggested that he had learned about concentration camps from the US government's
treatement of the native American --- i.e., confining them to reservations.

IMO, much of Catholic Church PROPAGANDA -- ceremony/rituals can be seen in Hitler's presentations/rallies --- and in our current GOP politics!!

The Vatican, of course, was involved in hundreds of years of propaganda ---
against the Jews, of course, with vile, vile writings --
but also against females --- "The Hammer of Witches" ---

[0007]

224. Fucking "A"...... Praise & kudos to Jesus

Jerry Boykin will lead the march.

* Speaking of Somali militia leader Osman All Otto, captured in 1993: "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol." After this comment started drawing flak, Boykin backpedaled: "Comments to Osman Otto in Mogadishu were not referencing his worship of Allah but his worship of money and power; idolatry."

* Regarding the convoluted election of President George W. Bush: "Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this." On another occasion, Boykin put it this way: "George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States. He was appointed by God."

* In a slideshow program he presented at various church groups, Boykin showed a photo he had taken from a helicopter over Mogadishu in 1993 depicting black patches in the sky. "Whether you understand it or not, it is a demonic spirit over the city of Mogadishu. Ladies and gentlemen, that's not a fake, that's not a farce."

* Another comment from the slideshow: "Well, is he (Osama bin Laden) the enemy? Next slide. Or is this man (Saddam Hussein) the enemy? The enemy is none of these people I have showed you here. The enemy is a spiritual enemy. He's called the principality of darkness. The enemy is a guy called Satan."

Regarding this last point, magician and celebrity atheist Penn Jillette responded thusly:

A guy? A guy? A guy named "Satan." We can't even find a guy named Bin Laden, and now we're looking for an evil tooth fairy? Satan's not a guy, it's just someone else's imaginary friend. How did we end up fighting a war against a sock monkey?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.nndb.com/people/357/000058183/&h=278&w=370&sz=20&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=ev5HwrQya4jjhM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djerry%2Bboykin%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

ONFG!!!

[superconnected]

106. You must be one of the lucky ones not surrounded by people who

would do this.

[defendandprotect]

122. ...and where are you? Religion and military???

[superconnected]

166. Corporate america.

Surrounded by these types in bothell, wa.

The worst was in redmond when I worked a microsoft (massively liberal environment) but managed to land a boss and his co-horts who were rw fred phelps crazy.

There's plenty of them around, everywhere.

[defendandprotect]

189. Never think of Microsoft as "liberal" --- !!!

Seems to me the epitome of right-wing monopoly corporatism ---
but I guess they do attract liberal employees ---

Also, I don't think that we've understood enough about what military $ does to certain areas re MIC jobs --- I have an internet friend in North Carolina and she says her area is really nuts between religous whackos and MIC ---

I think we need to uninvent the dollar bill ---

[TankLV]

183. ummm...never say never...

we NEVER thought anybody would take ronnie ray-gun seriously - or for a SECOND term, after the disasterous first one...

we NEVER thought GW would get anywhere NEAR the primaries, let alone the White House - even after the WHOLE COUNTRY VOTED AGAINST HIM!!! not to mention TWO TERMS!!!!!

we NEVER thought a beefcake muscleboy would be CALI's governor...

we NEVER thought the repukes would - lock the dems out - hold repuke only meetings - never even consider dem opinions let alone vote on legislation - for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS - NO - MAKE THAT TWELVE FUCKING YEARS!

we NEVER thought the Dems would cave in to bunkerboy TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME...

we NEVER thought...

oh, fucking nevermind...

[Joe Bacon]

108. Haven't these ¢hri$tian wackos screwed us enough?????

I've had it. I'm tired of these wackos have infected everything! I'm tires of these fakes and frauds who Talk the Jesus talk, but they walk the Ayn Rand Walk.

The time has come to tax these parasites into oblivion. No more Rolls Royces for crooked pastors financed by taxpayer dollars. It's time to take these parasites off of the Faith Based Gravy Train. Tax all of them. Tax every church.

[iamthebandfanman]

130. look, they talk on the phone. enough said.

heck, they are practically the same person.
haha

[Mythsaje]

2. Not only no

but FUCK no.

[damntexdem]

48. Just say huck no to Fuckabee!

;-)

[NewJeffCT]

65. Hell No might be more appropriate

in this situation!

[ihavenobias]

69. I changed my mind, I'm voting for Huckabee!

Voting against Huckabee is like voting against God. Besides, who can argue that the guy doesn't have brilliant judgment http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/12/10/the-worst-political-act-i-have-ever-seen/ AND a great tax plan(?!) http://youtube.com/watch?v=X7UUs8x1KEM

PS---No seriously though, what rational person would vote for this guy? Then again, maybe I just answered my own question.

[ClintonTyree]

160. The "end timers" are anything but rational.....

and there's many more of them out there than most people think. They are a force to be dealt with. They're covertly infiltrating every aspect of our government, thanks to the Bush administration, and DO plan to take over this country one way or another.

These freaking nutballs scare me to death. There's not an independent thinker in the bunch. It's all group-think, many minds thinking as one, and THAT is dangerous. Extremely dangerous. :scared:

[ihavenobias]

176. Perfect

and I love the FSM!

[defendandprotect]

194. In reading one of Mark Crispin Miller's book, he kind of suggests

that the help the GOP gets on election steals may come from these Evangelical groups???

They would seem to be to be a ready force for believing that anything that helps "god" is fair play!!!

[baldguy]

3. The next question on every real reporters lips should be "Whose God?"

But, of course there are no real reporters left in America.

[DontTreadOnMe]

4. Dumb All Over!

You cant run a country
By a book of religion

Not by a heap
Or a lump or a smidgeon

Of foolish rules
Of ancient date

Designed to make
You all feel great

While you fold, spindle
And mutilate

Those unbelievers
From a neighboring state

--FZ

[calimary]

104. Nice! Welcome to DU!

:patriot:

[Ellen Forradalom]

5. OOOOH no

Just TRY it, Mikey. Watch that effort get nowhere fast.

[TwilightGardener]

6. Waiting for the usual contingent of DUers who always pop up on Huckabilly

threads to say how charming and wonderful he is. Sometimes I wonder about this place, that anyone would have a kind word to say about this utterly psychotic Christian-Taliban dickhead.

[ladywnch]

36. those people exist on here?!!! I haven't seen them.........thank goodness.

[Recursion]

40. I've seen people say he's personally likeable and charismatic, both of which seem to be true

And that's a big reason I'm worried about the Huckster

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

74. He is personably likeable...

So is my Uncle Dwight, but I wouldn't let him fuck with the TV remote control, much less give him access to our nuclear arsenal.

[knowledgeispwr]

50. I've heard ppl say he's charming/personable

that's a far cry from saying they agree with him or think he'd make a good president. I think they are saying that he is a dangerous candidate, because he is so charismatic.

Charming/personable doesn't contradict bat-shit crazy.

[katty]

61. yeah, that's what they said about the chimp early on...who cares?!

he can go to church all he wants...don't drag everyone with you Hukleberry!

[defendandprotect]

123. There are actually Huck-likers here at DU --- !!! ?????

[sakabatou]

7. To Huck:

Treaty of Tripoli, bitch!

[BOSSHOG]

8. Does God want christians to get divorced mikey?

The only people fucking with the sanctity of marriage are religious lunatics who want to get into the pants of men and women.

[hisownpetard]

9. Why do we need an amendment to change the Constitution? Can't God change it himself?

:shrug:

[Voice for Peace]

114. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

God can change it hisself!!!! Brilliant!!

[hisownpetard]

117. And welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Jacobin]

136. hisownpetard for the WIN

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

175. Thanks!!

And I thought the scariest thing ever was that picture of him and his hucka-boys
in the matching striped shirts...

[pingzing58]

10. Huckabee is a simplistic religious nut who lacks the theological sophistication to reflect

adeqately on the biblical word of God and its significance for Christians today. There is no way he can represent the electorate in the U.S.

[JackRiddler]

79. Yeah, cos reflecting adequately on the biblical word of "God"

is obviously the main thing one wants in an elected official.

[Wisconsin for Hill]

158. sad thing is, he is a typical, average Christian

at least in Amurrica he is.

[Ian David]

11. The 1st Amendment to The Constitution very deliberately over-throws the 1st four "Commandments".nt

[C_U_L8R]

12. My god says Hucklenuts is a jive-ass turkey

Write that into your Constitution and smoke it up

[Initech]

13. So long Mikey!

God, we've had enough of that crap under Bush. Imagine what another 4 - 8 years will do. :eyes:

[Karmageddon]

14. I agree. Force Congress and the President to wear full pirate regalia, as FSM intended it to be.

[Lilith Velkor]

159. Ramen!

[harmonicon]

15. wow.... just, wow

Ok, this is what we're up against folks. Sure McCain, Romney and Paul are nuts, but I haven't heard any of them suggest turning the US into a theocracy. This is seriously scary awful shit.

[Hawaii Hiker]

19. Mike Huckabee is fucking insane, what an embarassment

to even have such a nut job be a candiate for POTUS...

I'd be TRULY embarassed to call myself an American if that sociopath Huckabee were the president.....He's a fucking disgrace & on top of that, a truly frightening guy....

Mike Huckabee is just a toned down version of Sam Brownback & Rick Santorum..

[atreides1]

22. Yes the man is insane

But what does that say about those who support his candidacy? We should keep an eye out for those religious fanatics as well!

[harmonicon]

26. yes, we should

Step #1 should be to stop catering to them. Home school? Sorry, no more home schooling unless the parent has any and all relevant degrees and is certified to teach all required subjects in their state.
Step #2: ?
Step #3: profit

[More Than A Feeling]

57. delete

[evilbeth]

71. Side note:

Not everyone who home schools does it to keep their precious bundles wrapped only in the soft, comforting arms of ignorance. Some do it for the opposite reason.

[harmonicon]

100. I know that

My mom said she'd considered home schooling me and my siblings, because she could do a better job of it. What she couldn't do is provide the social environment that schools do. I should point out that she is also a certified teacher with a Ph.D.

So, yeah, let people home school if they have the degree to back it up. We don't allow people to decide their own building codes or drunk driving laws.... a child's future is just as important.

[stanwyck]

129. Totally agree. Home schooling ranges from

very competent people who are conscientious and involved to parents with very little personal education whose teaching is a form of child abuse. Their children are denied a decent education and have their lives stunted due to parental ego.
I am reminded of the mother in "Jesus Camp" whose science class for her home-schooled son consisted of her ranting about how global warming is a myth perpetrated by the godless. Her teaching was all about herself and her beliefs. The selfishness of it is appalling.

[ClintonTyree]

163. I just watched "Jesus Camp" last week.......

it took quite a while for me to get up the courage to stomach it. Needless to say, I was appalled by it, totally stunned. It was so deeply disturbing on so many levels. I can't imagine what those children will grow up to be like. :scared: The hate and guilt those parents are heaping upon those small children will resurface as something extremely ugly later in life. They're creating mindless little monsters. I fear for their future, IF they have one.

[harmonicon]

182. my favorite (?) part is when the mother says:

"Did you get to the point where it says that science is wrong?", or something like that. That movie scared the shit out of me. I have some relatives that I'm afraid are a bit like that. At least I know that they're Christian, don't have full college degrees, and they home school their kids.... but what can you do? Oh, yeah - no home schooling for anyone!

[TrogL]

225. What a lovely social environment

:sarcasm:

Bullying, homophobia, sexism, gangs

[Thothmes]

91. Applying step #1

to the public school system in this country, would probably eliminate a full quarter of current class room teachers.

[harmonicon]

101. I'm afraid you're right

....that's why I think the two highest paid, and hardest to get, jobs in the country should be public school teacher and police officer.

[Thothmes]

171. No argument on that point from me.

[defendandprotect]

126. Has anyone ever said that religion is good for mental health --- ?????? ????

[AndyTiedye]

197. Not Sure About the Toned-Down Part. He's Even More Rabid Than They Are, But Smoother

which is what makes him so dangerous. If he gets the Mighty Slime Machine behind him he will be unstoppable.

[OHdem10]

16. This is a nifty way to say there needs to be a Consitutional

Ammendment to ban Abortions.

Since it most likely the Supreme Court will let the "settled law"
stand, there is only one way to deal with this. Congress
pass Consitutional Ammendment.

Quite creative. Do not upset people with the Abortion word.
Give the RR credit. Purposeful and Persistent.

[balantz]

17. FUCK YOU HUCK!!!

AND YOUR GOD TOO!!!

[sakabatou]

29. I think we new a new campaign slogan:

Fuck Huck.

... too strong?

[BadgerKid]

32. How about "WTF? Huck!" ? n/t

[sakabatou]

34. Could work too

He's a freaking nutter.

[dbackjon]

43. Fuckerbee

[IsItJustMe]

204. LOL LOL LOL!!!!! I like the ring to that. Good stuff there.

[balantz]

35. Fuck you Huck,

you and your god suck!

You're gonna need a lotta' luck,

'cause I'd rather worship a rubber duck,

than get on board your neocon truck!

[boricua79]

134. wot wot! put your hands in the air, wave them like you just don't care!

It's your birthday, it's your birthday.

Damn...nothing like an anti-Christian taliban rap session!

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

18. One word:

No MF'in way

[donheld]

20. Then he must think gay rights and abortion are constitutional

Otherwise why need to amend it?

[JerseygirlCT]

21. Good heavens.

This sort of stuff needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

And even then, people will brush it off as unimportant.

I've said it before; he's a scary, scary man.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

23. Me thinks he's overestimating the power of the Christian zealot votes.

Or at least I'm really, really hoping he is, because this shit is fucking insane.

[superconnected]

111. I have a feeling that instead he just got the majority of the vote from

both sides of the aisle. My dem mom(goes to church 3 times a week) would vote for him.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

137. Would she vote for him even after his having made this statement?

At first glance I can see how he could appeal to some people. He plays the harmless act well. But, what I've been hearing is his flat tax was a turn off for many of those people. I'm thinking his desire to mold the Constitution into a document that supports Theocracy will also be a turn off.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. Does that mean shellfish will be outlawed? What about stoning our kids who are disrespectful of us?

I assume Huck will propose that killing our children because of a lack of respect toward their parents will not constitute murder.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

75. As a parent of a teenager...

Nah, the grandparents would object!

[ClintonTyree]

164. And all women will have to move out of the house......

when menstruating. :eyes: Yeah, THAT will work! :rofl:

[momster]

201. Some Sheds Are Really Nice

Those Amish-made ones are sweeeet. Put in some curtains and a space heater and it could work as a once-a-month vacation spot. "No, honey, you'll have to have Daddy make 47 orange cupcakes for tomorrow's class. Sorry, son, I can't wash your skanky gym shorts -- I'm unclean. Ask Dad." Yeah, it works for me.

Need I add :sarcasm:?

[Sabriel]

228. Will they have to move out of the Senate, too?

What about just a separate tent on the grounds for the three women in the House and Senate?

[allalone]

216. I thought we are supposed to kill shellfish eaters

[hatrack]

25. President Torqemada. President Wahhab. President Mather.

Actually, the correct pronunciation for all three is "President Huckabee".

:puke:

[daleo]

27. Should the constitution include stoning people for worshipping false idols?

How about mixing clothing fabrics, or planting more than one thing in a garden?

[balantz]

28. A god that is held as law above those who may think differently is definately a false idol.

[AzDar]

30. No can do, Gomer.

Where do they come UP with these morans?:wtf:

[Mountainman]

31. The framers of the Constitution were sure a hell of a lot smarter then we are today.

The reason the Constitution is the way it is, is to protect us from people like Huckabee.

[Ekirh]

33. I keep hearing things about

How Huckabee is a likable guy.. he has a good personality.. and a good sense of humour.

Well even if all that is true, underneath is a very scary agenda such as that right there. Likable, good personality... who gives a fuck when that said person has an agenda such as that.

Fuck you Huckabee.

[dbackjon]

37. Will he give me the choice of:

Gay Concentration Camp
Stoned to Death
Exile to Canada

[TrogL]

227. Gay Concentration Camp

OK, that's just plain kinky.

Can I play?

[Recursion]

38. This is a victory, in ways

Since it means the Right is finally wrapping its head around the fact that a lot of what it wants violates the Constitution as it stands.

[ladywnch]

39. I just now, reading this, had some kid at my door (not from my neighborhood)

running some fundraiser so "he can go to a CHRISTIAN HIGH SCHOOL", 'we're doing something fun and healthy for families' When I told him "NO!" he tried to hand me some Christian pamphlet. These people are beginning to rank right up there with Jehovah's Witnesses.

Yeah, we need a president who encourage this.

Huckabee and his kind scare the shit out of me!:scared:

[Cass]

41. OMG!

No pun intended. This guy is way over the edge.

[Solly Mack]

42. fuck him and his beliefs

[Dukkha]

44. if he has press conferences, do the photographers steal his soul?

oh wait, you must actually posess a soul first.

[MissMillie]

45. Matthew 22:21

"...Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."


Even Jesus Christ believed in the separation of church and state.

[kineneb]

184. exactly the quote I thought of

and I'm Buddhist... Jesus was a Buddha (or at least a Bodhisattva).

[jonnyra]

46. I know people who

will be praising the lord when they hear the Huckster saying such things. That is the scary thing...there are people who actually believe this crap is good for America. WTF has happened to this country? If this slime somehow wins the presidency I am outta here...I have no desire to live in a nation that believes in Gods watching over us like the ancient cave dwellers.

[hyphenate]

89. Been there, done that

My ex-best friend was a fucking whacko at the end of our friendship. She would have been drooling to get Huck elected--she voted for the troglodyte as well--twice. She was one of the ilk that wants to speed up armageddon so they can get raptured. Yup--pure, fucking space cadets. They are truly, deeply scary people.

[Jacobin]

138. Uh, there are MILLIONS of these freaks. And they vote

[krabigirl]

151. I'm outta here, too.

[China_cat]

47. If you become president

you put your hand on a bible (koran/book of sorrows/vedas, etc) and swear to uphold the constitution.

NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

[14thColony]

149. Actually

there is no requirement in law to use a Bible or any other book of any type in the swearing-in ceremony. It's merely tradition, just like adding "so help me God" at the end (which many presidents didn't do and Lincoln actually refused to do). In fact John Quincy Adams placed his hand on a book of law and Theordore Roosevelt used no book of any type at his 1901 inauguration.

[China_cat]

153. I know there's no requirement.

But the overwhelming majority have...and will. But whatever they choose (I think Harry Potter would be good choice), they still swear to uphold the constitution, not otherwise.

[14thColony]

205. Absolutely right

Sorry, I had just been in a debate elsewhere with someone who tried to claim that the Bible and "so help me God" were Constitutional requirements in the law since the US was founded by Christian Fundamentalists as a Christian Nation, etc etc etc etc... you get the idea.

[China_cat]

206. As a Quaker, I often get the 'you HAVE to swear on the bible

to testify in court'. Which is a crock.

And I would severely distrust any atheist who would allow him/herself to be forced into swearing on a book he/she didn't believe in. Or any court that would allow it.

[14thColony]

208. Funny enough

After 40 years on this Earth I actually had to swear on a Bible today. Talk about coincidence. I was swearing an affadavit at the county court and I was given the choice of swearing or affirming. I dislike 'affirming,' but in order to swear I had to use a Bible.

Note: I don't live in the United States...

[rockybelt]

49. I believe today

that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

Adolph Hitler

[amb123]

51. OVER MY DEAD BODY!

THERE IS NO FREEDOM WITHOUT CHURCH/STATE SEPARATION!

[Cheap_Trick]

98. i'd prefer

OVER THEIR DEAD BODIES

[Hulk]

52. Last nail in this nitwit's coffin...

huck needs to go back to his church and roll up in a nice warm blanket.

Maybe this is our opportunity to see how religiously crazy this country is.

"Separation of church and state"...does that ring a bell to anyone out there on the repug stump??

[Sarah Ibarruri]

53. And this is why I hate evangelicals. nt

[Javaman]

54. Huckleberry has come off the rails. nt

[SaveOurDemocracy]

55. Dumbass!!

and ... NO, it's NOT an 'H'!!!

[frog92969]

56. Oh HELL no!

Somebody please tell me this snake oil salesman doesn't have a chance.

He needs to be disqualified for such an unconstitutional statement.

[geardaddy]

58. Good luck with that, Goober. n/t

[kimmylavin]

59. Time to go polish my bumper sticker:

"The Bible is NOT the Constitution".
Where do these people fucking COME FROM???

[ismnotwasm]

60. He is really that stupid.

Stunning.

[yardwork]

62. Never mind. Let's bash Democratic candidates some more.

/sarcasm

[Johonny]

63. Oh crap Huck just won the

shellfish and cloven hooves vote. Personally I can't wait to stone to death my first witch.

[Cant trust em]

64. Too bad he didn't save this talking point for the General Election

I would have loved for him to hold back this doozy unti after he got his party's nomination. He's probably just sealed his fate.

[noel adamson]

66. Huckster will be a lot more beatable than McCain. If you live where you can vote in

Republican primaries...

[BB1]

67. It's time the Huckster contacted that guy from 'The Dark Zone'

Stephen King's bestseller. Have him photographed using a baby as protection from Satan... ;)

[bpeale]

68. HOLY CRAP BATMAN! this should be the end of his campaign i would think

[underpants]

70. Oh sweet Jesus are the fundies going to be pissed off when the GOP rejects Huck

Fun to watch though

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

76. God wants a third party...

nearly as much as I do :evilgrin:

[shain from kane]

72. Why bother amending the Constitution when the world is going to end?

[Turbineguy]

73. The first of many

Huckwahs.

[CANDO]

78. That stuff is for the pulpit, not the Presidency.

This is very dangerous territory.

[Politicub]

80. The really scary thing is

he probably picked up even more GOP votes. These people would love to see us go back to the stone age.

[fascisthunter]

81. "We Need To Amend The Constitution, Bring It In Line With Allah"

Yes... Huckabee is just as bad.

[olddad56]

82. Isn't there something about separation by church and state in that Constitution?

[hyphenate]

83. Has the Onion

suddenly gone and taken over the news today? Between this and the Lieberman article, I could swear it was either April 1st or the only good parody entity having a whopping good time with our politics.

Jesus-fucking-Christ. That's the only thing I can say about Huckee. He's off his goddamned rocker.

[Az_lefty]

84. He's a Dominionist...

very dangerous indeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

[LeftishBrit]

85. Wow...

The Ayatollah Huckabee?

I bet your Founding Fathers are turning somersaults in their graves.

[AnnieBW]

86. If he wins, I'm moving to Canada.

Or Australia. Or anywhere. I'm series.

:scared:

[TankLV]

185. s e r i o u s

ugh...

[SallyMander]

87. For anyone who wondered how it could POSSIBLY get worse from Bush

This might be your answer :scared:

[benld74]

88. Can't wait for the spin on this, if any comes out, and if nothing comes out

then they have picked their man

[MasonJar]

90. That is one scary s.o.b.

[Hugabear]

92. Please, God, let the rethugs nominate this fool

The more this idiot speaks, the more ammunition he provides should he become the nominee. There was already enough dirt on him, ie pardoning rapists so they could kill again.

This guy is practically admitting he wants to change the Constitution to pave the way for a fundamentalist theocracy. Sure, he'll get the rabid fundie vote, and probably a lot of the idiot UnFair Tax supporters. But that seems about it.

[AndyTiedye]

198. NOOOO! Not Huckabee! With the Mighty Slime Machine & Diebold Backing Him He Would Win!

It may actually be a good idea to vote AGAINST Fuckster in the Repiglican primary.

[shenmue]

93. No, no, no.

What we need to do is protect human rights for all. We don't need the Constitution to favor one group more than another. We don't need religious prejudice in the Constitution.

[Greylyn58]

94. I said from the beginning that this guy was dangerous

Now I see he is dangerous and nuts. I think you are right with your last statement:

"Mike, thanks for playing. Lovely parting gifts back stage..."

He is doing damage to himself with that kind of talk. Thank God!!

[flasoapbox]

95. I'm really baffled by Huckabee

He comes across as relatively sane and down to earth a lot of the
time, then he says outrageously wacked-out things like this. I'm
confused. Adn I don't think that he's trying to necessarily woo
the Evangelicals here, because I'm sure many of them would feel
very uncomfortable with the idea of "fixing" the Constitution.

If only this guy could get the GOP nomination, though!!

[fascisthunter]

96. Religious Nuts Should Be Banned from Running for Public Office

how would ya like them apples?

[nbcouch]

99. this is why I'll never vote for a Republican

Never have, never will.

His comments in Michigan disqualify Huckleberry from serving as president of these United States, completely and forever, yet the GOP will never repudiate them. In fact, the GOP long ago sold out their oath of office ("...support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies...") for the votes of a small yet rabid and easily mobilized minority who genuinely want to establish state religion in this country. If this man, or anyone who believes as he does, should ever become president, you might as well flush what's left of the republic right down the tubes and out to sea.

[NutmegYankee]

102. What a great candidate!

It's rare that a religious rightwinger goes right out and shows just how completely fascist and nuts they are. Most play the bullshit game and try to sound moderate (in the republican sense). Not the Huckster. He dons his Taliban robe and AK-47 before lacing up his jack boots and storming the stage. What a guy!


On a serious note - HOLY SHIT! Is this guy f'ng nuts or what?

[superconnected]

103. Dear God, please protect me from your followers.

[pinto]

105. Color me raptured.

:eyes:

[Dudley_DUright]

107. Unamerican

is the only word I can think of to describe this "proposal". So much for the enlightenment, right Huckster?

[QUALAR]

109. The Rapture At Hand

Holy bat shit, Robin, to the Bat Cave!

[sarcasmo]

110. Just another in a long line of Christian NUT JOBS.

On edit, Long Live the Flying Spaghetti Monster and check out my sig at the bottom.

[colsohlibgal]

112. How Hard Is It To Get?.........

Separation of Church and State! Tommy Jefferson and his friends knew that the two should not be entwined in any way.

If people like Huck had their way we'd all be living in a theocracy, that's what they want.

The religious nuts in this country are probably more dangerous to the immediate future of the US than the religious nuts outside the country.

[Greyskye]

115. Mr. Huckabee, won't you please think of the bunny?

[va4wilderness]

116. Who is this "we" he's talking about?

"We" amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards? Come on. Sounds like SOMEBODY'S going to have to determine WHO has the real, authoritative line to God in order to rewrite this thing... Step right up and interpret the Constitution on behalf of God.

No.

I think if the Constitution is going to be amended so it's in God's standards, then we ought to do this: Set the Constitution and a pencil on a rock in the desert, 50 miles from any road, 50 miles from any people, and let God rewrite it herself/himself. When people begin acting like they are speaking for God, that's when I begin to worry.

[allalone]

217. yeah, what's this we stuff?

does he have a mouse in his pocket?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

118. Hey Mikey, just ask the Taliban how they accomplished this.

Asshole.

[and-justice-for-all]

121. Hucklenuts wants a Theocracy?....

Well then, him and his ilk can move there holier-than-thou asses to Iran.

[boricua79]

135. yeah..except

half of his cadres would get hung from the highest tree when their true sexuality was known!

[Seabiscuit]

124. Scratch a fundie, sniff a theocrat. n/t

[defendandprotect]

127. Right --- Everyone off to Jesus Camp --- !!!

[moggie]

125. Ok, maybe not 2008

2012, maybe?

[HockeyMom]

147. At the very least our voting rights

Women must be submissive to men!!!! Damn, I hate to imagine what he must think about Hillary running for President????????

[TankLV]

186. about the same as the obama supporters here aparently...

[iamahaingttta]

128. Actually, I would rather "try to change God's Standards"

whatever that means.

[phylla]

131. He is toast.

certifiable, he is

[boricua79]

132. but how do we know what are God standards?

What if the real Gods are the gods of the Greeks? What if the dictates of Zeus, Aphrodite, or Ares are what matters?

What if the real Gods are the Orishas of Nigerian / Afro-Cuban culture? What if Chango, Yemaya, Ochun, etc. are the ones whose dictates we should follow?

What if it's not a God at all...it's a Goddess? A Goddess of Nature?

How could we, in all fairness, dictate "standards" of a particular God on others through amending the Constitution to make it impose those values?

I thought that was what the first Americans were fleeing Europe for...to avoid state-enforced religions.

Voting for Huckabee is a vote to making the U.S. the Europe of the 1400s.

For me it's nothing more than arrogance to argue that Jesus is the only God. how do we know, really! Because a book said so? Hey, guess what, the Koran's a book! The Torah's a book. The Greek Gods have books about them. Santeros have practices/rituals that have been passed down on how to worship their Gods. Who has the audacity to claim absolute knowledge on what God is right and what practices should be the "standard"?

No one does....and that is why our present Constitution works fine with most, if not any faith out there.

What is wrong with these Christian Talibanists!

[jeff30997]

140. Hey !

Don't forget about Brahma, Vishnu or Krishna and Shiva!:)

BTW,I thik the term "Christian Talibanists"is very appropriate.

[boricua79]

172. wouldn't dream of it...

since THEY may be the real Gods! :)

[momster]

202. The Jade Emperor is Ticked!

How dare you leave out the Chinese Pantheon? The Kitchen God, God of War, and Chief of the Heavenly Bureaucracy are conferring right now on whether to make your rice not stick, your car backfire or resurrecting that tax audit schtick.

http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese-mythology.php

[jeff30997]

207. Lol!

:)

[thecrow]

167. As I always sayin regard to the fundies who "know" God's will...

I am not so brazen as to assume I know God's will for somebody else.
Who can judge the mind of the All Mighty?
Not me.


Huckabee? ptooie

[usregimechange]

133. You have to be kidding me? Scary stuff, align constitution w my beliefs says Huck

[nealmhughes]

139. You tube has the video up; and yep he said it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHkywYc_1M

[emmadoggy]

141. Uh, er, umm...

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:


:puke: :eyes: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf: :hurts: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


That's all I got.

[fujiyama]

142. CREEEEEEEEEEPY!

This guy is a freakin rabid hyena in sheep's clothing. A freakin lunatic.

[14thColony]

143. Go Huckabee Go!

You preach it brother!

Huckabee Huckabee, he's our man!
If he can't impose a 13th Century theocracy and destroy the last shreds of the Constitution, no one can!!!
Goooooooooo Huckabee!

Of course all this is assuming he's talking about MY God and MY specific franchise of True Christianity(tm). If not then burn the heretical bastard!

[jeff30997]

144. Give the guy a break...

He obviously needs psychiatric help.:evilgrin:

[Orsino]

145. All you need to know. n/t

[Joey Liberal]

146. Huck is NUTS......................... n/t

[TheCentepedeShoes]

148. I just had a personal conversation

with Dog as I was giving Him His dinner (I am a faithful servant of Dog). Dog told me not to fret, He assured me the huckleberry hound is only a fictional character confined to the glowing box in the corner.

[krabigirl]

150. YIKES! What a wacko!! PLEASE anyone but him!!

[Justitia]

152. Keep Talking Preacher Man! Break out the snakes, even. - eom

[donkeyotay]

154. Cross me off the "Huckleberry seems like a nice guy" list

Yeah, so did Satan. I think I said something nice about the Huck once, like he seemed nicer than the customary rabid right nutter. Not. I apologize. It won't happen again.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

155. Time to bring back and revise a campaign button that was used against Pat Robertson:

"Mike Huckabee for Ayatollah."

[txwhitedove]

156. No, no, HELL NO!

[Araxen]

157. Votes

a vote against Huckabee is a vote for Satan ;)

[caseycoon]

161. Why isn't he in an asylum?

He's GOTTA be certifiably insane!

[DuaneBidoux]

162. In any case, he's outta' here.

[usregimechange]

165. Engel

It is an unfortunate fact of history that when some of the very groups which had most strenuously opposed the established Church of England found themselves sufficiently in control of colonial governments in this country to write their own prayers into law, they passed laws making their own religion the official religion of their respective colonies. 9 Indeed, as late as the time of the Revolutionary <370 U.S. 421, 428> War, there were established churches in at least eight of the thirteen former colonies and established religions in at least four of the other five. 10 But the successful Revolution against English political domination was shortly followed by intense opposition to the practice of establishing religion by law. This opposition crystallized rapidly into an effective political force in Virginia where the minority religious groups such as Presbyterians, Lutherans, Quakers and Baptists had gained such strength that the adherents to the established Episcopal Church were actually a minority themselves. In 1785-1786, those opposed to the established Church, led by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, who, though themselves not members of any of these dissenting religious groups, opposed all religious establishments by law on grounds of principle, obtained the enactment of the famous "Virginia Bill for Religious Liberty" by which all religious groups were placed on an equal footing so far as the State was concerned. 11 Similar though less far-reaching <370 U.S. 421, 429> legislation was being considered and passed in other States.

ENGEL v. VITALE, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)

[arewenotdemo]

168. Come on, people. This dude lost A TON of weight.

Maybe that's not fishes and loaves miraculous to DU skinnies, but who's to say?

;)

[cureautismnow]

169. Buh-bye, Huckleberry! n/t

:rofl:

[zonkers]

173. Huck is smoking the good stuff.

[scarface2004]

177. amend god to bring him in line with the constitution!!!!

you fucking asshole!!!!!!!!!

[JCMach1]

180. batshit jackboot crazy!

he is now officially unelectable... no one but extreme fundies will vote for him now.

[mcscajun]

181. No, No, and Huck No!

Schmuckabee Is Out. Way Out. Next Case.

[gtar100]

187. That's not an amendment, that's an overhaul

Because he means the Christian God of love who burns people in hell because they didn't believe in him. And our Constitution is humanistic to the core. We sure have in-bred some crazy, stupid people here in America. Huckabee case in point.

[yellowcanine]

223. Exactly. Throw the sucker out and start over if we are going to do that.

But give me a heads up first so I can gather up my stuff and head to Canada. I ain't livin in any Hucksterocracy.

[Daddy_is_a_Dem]

188. The sad part is

the Freeps see him as a liberal.

[loveangelc]

192. I hope he wins SC.

[Kurovski]

196. Oh Jesus Christ.

Please deliver us from evil.

Or at least save us from the goofballs.

[AndyTiedye]

199. He Might Try to Bring on the "Rapture", With Nukes

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[RadiationTherapy]

203. ALRIIIIGHT!!! FINALLY! Do we go old testament or new?? (please let it be old, please let it be old)

[semillama]

209. Doesn't this statement essentially disqualify him as a presidential candidate?

He's essentially stating he intends to ignore the First Amendment, yet as president he has to swear to protect and uphold the Constitution. That means the whole document, not just the parts he agrees with.

I know, I know, the last seven years we've had a president who's been violating his solemn oath, but my point still makes sense, I hope.

[dchill]

211. Perhaps we also need to amend reality...

and bring it in line with Christofascist ideology! This pseudo-religious posturing is a knife in the gut of this democracy.

Huckabee is a yet another rancid nut in the Republican fruitcake.

[dogfacedboy]

212. Prove to me the existence of "God", and then we can talk.

I tell all who "praise God" to prove the existence of said "God", and then I'd be willing to talk about it.

Has anyone ever seen this "God" guy? Nope. And I believe nobody ever will.

In the mean time, us reality based people must continue to fend off the superstitious when it comes to running the everyday world.

[smb]

213. In A Way, It's A Pity

Too bad the guy is a theocratic nut -- his economic policies are actually pretty good for a Pubbie. (Note that the right-wing slime machine from Fox to El Rushbo makes a blatant attempt to distort and destroy him. All appear to be following marching orders from the Republican hierarchy apparently to pander their rich contributors.)

[ProudDad]

214. It'll be wonderfull if he gets nominated

I can see the T-shirts now:

Phuck Huck!!!

[dysfunctional press]

215. THAT'S the guy we want to run against..!!!

he's nuttier than a mormon.

[Critters2]

220. Will never happen. The Neo-cons abhor this guy.

He isn't getting anywhere near the White House.

[Quantess]

221. Hopefully the Fundies will swarm to the primaries with zeal never before seen

and all vote enthusiastically for Huckabee! That would be awesome if he won the nomination.

[yellowcanine]

222. Which God Huck?

[BreweryYardRat]

226. No theocracy here! Ever!

People need to be protesting en masse whenever Huckabee crawls out from under his rock.