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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:58 PM
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McCain backs long-term US presence in Iraq
Source: AFP


Republican White House hopeful John McCain insisted Monday the United States must maintain a long-term presence in Iraq and accused Democratic rivals of caving in to the forces of "evil."

But asked whether he would establish permanent bases in Iraq, the Arizona senator, tipped to take a grip on the nomination in Tuesday's nationwide nominating contests, said such a decision should be left to the government in Baghdad.

"We'll have arrangements with Iraq -- the same kind we've made with a number of countries," he told reporters following a rally in Boston.

"Some countries, such as Saudi Arabia, we left. There are other countries, because of our relationship, like Turkey, we stayed. It's agreements between countries, we all know that."

...

"Warfare has got to do with victory or defeat. They want to declare defeat; I want us to continue to have this victory."

Read more: http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=213768&s=&i=&t=McCain_backs_long-term_US_presence_in_Iraq
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:03 PM
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1. McCain - "Iraq will be our 51st state!"
Bet on it.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:04 PM
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2. We left Saudi Arabia because Osama kicked us out and Bush* obeyed! nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:10 PM
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9. Exactly, that was the date of our surrender..
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 04:11 PM by Virginia Dare
and oh, lookie lookie here is shrubya kissing Saudi ass as only he can do. With friends like this, who need enemies?

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:05 PM
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3. And just why is it that we left Saudi Arabia Johnny?
wasn't that one of Al Qaeda's and Bin Laden's chief demands? Did Al Qaeda or Bin Laden give a flying fuck if we invaded Iraq? In fact, didn't that sort of play RIGHT INTO THEIR HANDS????

I swear this guy is just as ignorant as Dubya sometimes.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:05 PM
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4. So, anyone who wants to end Iraq is appeasing evil, now. That would
be most Americans and half of Congress. That's nice. Who is standing up to this evil fucking war-pig when he spouts off like this? I don't mean just promising to end the war as a campaign stump speech, as our candidates are doing--I mean debating McCain's manipulative and wrong talking points about the war. Why is it so quiet? Why are he and Lieberman allowed to run around the country making their neocon talking points unchecked?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:05 PM
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5. If what's been going on in Iraq is ...
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 04:06 PM by NanceGreggs
... what McCain is referring to when he says, "I want us to continue to have this victory," he's even more deranged than I previously suspected.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:07 PM
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6. he was talking to Blackwater, Bechtel, etc...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:13 PM
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10. And the funny thing is, since nobody has actually explained..
to us what the mission or the goal is in Iraq, maybe he's right? I'm sure the private defense industry feels pretty victorious right now.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:29 PM
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12. Ain't THAT the truth! n/t
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:07 PM
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7. Yes we stayed in Turkey
But those bases belong to the Turkish government, not the US government.

What victory is he talking about? In warfare it's victory, defeat, or a truce, like Korea!!!!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:08 PM
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8. I say, let him run with this delusional position -- he'll lose handily in November
It should be grimly amusing to see him squirm as Iraq implodes this year.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:17 PM
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11. Didn't he say he'd be happy if we stayed in Iraq for 100 years?
I read that in the paper today.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:30 PM
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13. I hope somebody got a video of that. We can run commerials this fall!
MC CAIN SAYS WE ARE NEVER LEAVING IRAQ!
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:32 PM
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14. Good
He's backing what 70% of the country don't want.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:09 PM
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15. We should stay until
we recover the 9 billion in cash that's as missing as the WMD. We are entitled to a full refund.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:04 PM
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19. I don't think any of that money is in Iraq anymore...
I'm sure most of it is in numbered Swiss accounts belonging to American "businessmen."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:16 PM
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16. Next stop, Viet Nam
McCain's nursing a grudge, and he wants "victory".

I guess he loves the smell of napalm in the morning.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:41 PM
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17. I don't think John Wayne McCain will have a say in this -- Moqtada al-Sadr on the other hand. . .
he and his Mehdi Army, however, will most likely have final say on how long the Occupation continues.
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Sandy2k Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:42 PM
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18. Then let McInsane go there !
Let him go there and do it.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:05 PM
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20. "Less jobs, more wars" That's the winning ticket!
:evilgrin:
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:24 PM
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21. We should never have permanent bases in a Muslim country
It will only add to tension and anger against the U.S.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:00 PM
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22. And 72% of Americans do not.
"continue to have this victory"??! Now that's par for a rightwingnut; deeply stupid.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:12 PM
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23. K&R I'm very worried...
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 11:45 PM by DianaForRussFeingold
I've been devastated since Edwards suspended his campaign!
"It is time for a President of the United States to ask Americans to be
Patriotic about something other than war" John Edwards.

What scares me is Hillary voted for the Kyl/LieBerman Amendment!
Obama and another candidate (McCain) played it politically safe--
and didn't show up!
One Tin Soldier- Music-video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNTV8BC50ac

I'm concerned that Obama did say he was going to
include Republicans like John mcCain, in his administration...
While Obama is an inspiring, powerful and charismatic speaker,
He is also the protege of the best Senator, that the GOP ever had...
-neocon extraordinaire-Joe LIEberman-

McCain thinks Putin is president of Germany. (MUST WATCH)
"if you close your eyes and listen he sounds exactly like *....really"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x86805
Edited to add--maybe I just wasn't paying attention but I never used to be cynical!
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