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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:35 PM
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U.S. soldiers help war against rebels in Colombia
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 05:35 PM by Judi Lynn
Source: ABC News

U.S. soldiers help war against rebels in Colombia
By Hugh Bronstein
Feb 4, 2008

FLORENCIA, Colombia (Reuters) - When spies spotted a guerrilla chief camped on a jungle riverbank one afternoon late last year, Colombia's army quickly turned to U.S. soldiers to help plan his capture.

Fresh from Afghanistan and Iraq and versed in the latest counter-insurgency tactics, the Americans said they analyzed everything from enemy troop strength to river levels and the moon cycle to forecast visibility.

Before dawn, Colombian soldiers were waist deep in water, moving toward the rebel, who they said was in charge of buying arms with cocaine profits in southern Colombia. The target soon lay dead in the mud. The U.S. Army asked that he not be named in order to shield American troops from reprisals.

The raid was one success in a multibillion-dollar U.S. effort to sharpen Colombia's campaign against the drug-funded Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), which is fighting Latin America's longest-running insurgency.

But "Plan Colombia" is under tougher scrutiny as U.S. Democrats who now control Congress worry about the government's human rights record and ask why cocaine exports have not been more dramatically cut from the world's top producer.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4240733
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:01 PM
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1. The U.S. role in Colombia:
Interpretations of the U.S. role

According to author Robin Kirk, most Americans remain naïve about the role of the United States in Colombia's historical development and the nation's continuing violence. <3>

Colombia's own history has been studied from the perspective of the so-called the "violentologist", a new type of social scientist created in order to analyze the nature and development of the country's violence. <4> Camilo A. Azcarate has attributed the violence to three main causes:
1. a weak central state,

2. poverty, and an

3. elite political system which excludes the less affluent of society.
<5>
Author Doug Stokes argues that, along with the other factors, the past and present interference of successive American administrations in Colombian affairs has often sought to preserve a measure of stability in Colombia, by upholding a political and economic status quo understood as favorable to U.S. interests even at the cost of contributing to promoting greater instability for the majority of the population. <6> From this perspective, the U.S. would therefore be an additional fourth factor involved.
(snip)

In 2000, studies carried out by both the United Nations and Human Rights Watch argued that paramilitaries continued to maintain close ties to the Colombian military . <106> HRW considered that the existing partnership between paramilitaries and members of the Colombian military was "a sophisticated mechanism, in part supported by years of advice, training, weaponry, and official silence by the United States, that allows the Colombian military to fight a dirty war and Colombian officialdom to deny it." <107> A contemporary UN report states that “The security forces also failed to take action, and this undoubtedly enabled the paramilitary groups to achieve their exterminating objectives.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.-Colombia_military_relations

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:12 PM
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2. Increase in Army Killings: Result of Plan Colombia?
Increase in Army Killings: Result of Plan Colombia?
Colombia Conflict | News | U.S. Advocacy & Policy
The Colombian armed forces committed 955 extrajudicial executions between July 2002 and June 2007, according an investigation carried out by a coalition of 11 Colombian human rights organizations and released in October. Of these killings only two have resulted in a judicial conviction.

The number of killings by Colombia’s armed forces represents a 65% increase over the previous five-year period from 1997 to 2002. Since the last five years represent the most intense period of US training for the Colombian military, the study raises serious questions about the reasons for such a dramatic hike in killing by the US military’s trainees. A number of the military units charged in the report with killing civilians have been “vetted” (approved) for US training and other assistance.
(snip)

“Some of the executions are reportedly being committed by military units that have received US military aid and by units operating under the guidance of US military advisers,” Amnesty International said in a statement. These units include the 12th Mobile Brigade (Meta), the 16th Brigade (Casanare), and the 18th Brigade (Arauca). According to US legislation, Colombian units that have committed gross human rights abuses are prohibited from receiving US training or other assistance. A list of units approved for assistance released last year showed that the US aids the 12th Mobile Brigade and the 16th and 18th Brigades.

Yet other US and Colombian military documents indicate that even more units with histories of abuse receive US assistance. The State Department’s recently released report on foreign military training shows that units from the Army’s 17th Brigade – whose commanders and soldiers are under investigation for the February 2005 massacre and other killings in the Peace Community of San Jose de Apartado – and from the 4th Brigade – with jurisdiction in Medellin and eastern Antioquia, both received training at the former School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia. Yet neither unit is listed as approved for training in the 2006 State Department document.

President Uribe responded with a bald-faced falsehood: “In Colombia there are no extrajudicial executions,” in spite of the judicial system’s investigations into hundreds of such acts. Colombia’s Defense Minister visited Washington in the days after the release of the report and said the increase in Army killings is “puzzling.”

More:
http://www.forcolombia.org/oct07/executions
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justinaforjustice Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:23 PM
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4. Colombia's Uribe Government Making Money from Drugs and From U.S. Anti-Drug Funding.
Colombia's President Uribe is in the enviable position of making drug money coming and going. His narco-trafficing paramilitary associates pay him and his government officials to allow them to produce and export cocaine -- and Colombia is the world's largest supplier of cocaine -- while Uribe is also getting billions from the Bush-Cheney administration to suppress anti-government rebellion in the guise of "fighting drugs".

The U.S. is the largest consumer of the world's cocaine supply. If the U.S. would legalize drugs, none of the third world countries, including Colombia, would continue to suffer from the narco-corruption which destroys any semblance of real democracy.

Meanwhile, the U.S. falsely accuses Venezuela's Chavez government of allowing Colombia's drugs to be exported through Venezuela, when the the opposite is true -- the Chavez government is actively attacking the drug trade. I am an American living in Venezuela. The newspapers here report on large drug busts along the Colombia-Venezuelan border on a daily basis.


What the U.S. national media does not report is the fact that the Bush-Cheney administration is building U.S. army and air force bases just inside the Colombian border with Venezuela, while providing millions in funding to anti-Chavez groups in Venezuela. In the face of its aggressive acts against Venezuela, the Bush-Cheney government has the gall to publicly attack Venezuela for increasing its military budget, which still remains lower than many other countries in South and Central America.

Most of Venezuela's budget is devoted to providing free medical care, education, housing and subsidized food and fuel to its citizens, while the biggest item in the U.S. budget is for its wars. The U.S. military budget is bigger than the military budgets of all the other countries in the world combined. (See www.moveon.org for a graphic display of the U.S.'s military budget and a comparison of the world's military budgets in oreo cookies by Ben of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream fame. It is extremely illuminating.)

Now we learn that the U.S. military is being used to fight the anti-Uribe rebels in Colombia. So we can add a hidden war in Colombia to Bush and Cheney's other militaristic exploits. Bush and Cheney must be impeached, not only for the sake of our country, but for the sake of all the other countries they are destroying or actively destabilizing.



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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:42 PM
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6. ...and Americans paying for it ,either by consuming drugs or sending their tax dollars
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eib1 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:52 PM
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3. More imperialism?
More PTSD? More cocaine to make it worse?
Less money for veterans' programs.
More damage to the American people and American infrastructure.
Way to go, federal government.
I despise your empire, shove it up your ass.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 PM
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5. We have spare soldiers to send to Colombia?
Isn't that nice of us? Did Congress authorize this? Or is this just a little more unilateral foreign adventurism being indulged by Chimpy? He's done so well up until now with that.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:44 AM
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7. CIP Memorandum: The U.S. military presence in Colombia, February 26, 2003
CIP Memorandum: The U.S. military presence in Colombia, February 26, 2003

MEMORANDUM

February 26, 2003
To: Interested Colleagues
From: Ingrid Vaicius, Associate, Center for International Policy
Re: The U.S. military presence in Colombia

~snip~
Last year, the Bush Administration began widening the scope of its military assistance mission in Colombia. In August, Congress approved an administration request to allow all past and present anti-drug aid to be used against guerrillas and paramilitaries. In November, President Bush signed a secret order, National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD) 18, which broadened several of the American military's guidelines in Colombia, particularly with regard to intelligence-sharing.

In mid-January, a contingent of sixty U.S. Special Forces arrived in the conflictive department of Arauca in northeastern Colombia, where they are to train the Colombian Army in an effort to protect the Caño Limón-Coveñas oil pipeline. These trainers' guidelines allow them to accompany their Colombian military counterparts outside the perimeters of military bases, but prohibit their presence in an area if there is a significant likelihood of combat.

While U.S. law gives the executive branch a good deal of freedom to deploy troops in such "operations other than war," the U.S. Congress has expressed concern about "mission creep" - the possibility that U.S. personnel may find themselves embroiled in Colombia's conflict. As a result, a provision that first appeared in the 2000 "Plan Colombia" aid package, and which has been renewed each year through 2003, sets a maximum of 400 U.S. military personnel and 400 U.S. citizen contractors who can be in Colombia at any given time. The law adds, "no United States Armed Forces personnel or United States civilian contractor employed by the United States will participate in any combat operation in connection with assistance made available by this Act for Colombia".

In strict legal terms, however, this "troop cap" provision does not cover all U.S. personnel. The language of the law only applies the cap to U.S. personnel in Colombia "in support of Plan Colombia" - the 2000 counter-drug initiative supported with funding from the State Department's anti-narcotics bureau.

Many of the Bush Administration's military-aid initiatives - in particular, the pipeline protection program - are not anti-drug programs, nor are they paid for with State Department anti-drug funds. They are not considered part of "Plan Colombia" - so the troop cap, in its current form, would not strictly apply to the U.S. military personnel in Colombia to carry out these programs.

U.S. officials have told members of Congress informally that they will nonetheless continue to obey the caps of 400 each. The administration's required quarterly reports to Congress on the U.S. presence indicate that the limit has not been exceeded. The last report claimed that there were 208 military personnel and 279 contract workers in Colombia on January 13, 2003; on November 13, 2002, the previous report cited 267 military personnel and 270 contractors.

While the law allows the president to waive the troop cap for 90 days if involvement in hostilities is likely, it states that even a formal waiver is unnecessary in the case of search-and-rescue operations like the one currently underway in Caquetá. While the current operation pushes the number of military personnel above 400, the administration is not legally bound even to notify Congress. "We informally told Congress about the search-and-rescue personnel that would be going down," explained State Department Spokesman Philip Reeker on February 25, but "no formal notification or waiver is required because the legislation makes quite clear that emergency personnel like the search-and-rescue personnel don't fall under that category."

More:
http://www.ciponline.org/colombia/03022601.htm
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:56 AM
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8. "why cocaine exports have not been more dramatically cut" - har, har, har...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :wtf: :argh: :silly: :crazy: :mad: :argh: :puke: :evilfrown: :evilgrin: :bounce: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :spank: :wow: :nuke: :evilgrin: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :shrug: I dunno.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:51 AM
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9. ahem..."The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez," by..
er...

"The Smart Way to Beat (leftists who oppose the U.S. "war on drugs") Like Chávez"...

ah...

"The Smart Way to Beat (leftists who educate and feed the poor with oil profits) Like Chávez"

yup

"The Smart Way to Beat (popular presidents who were actually elected) Like Chávez"

and

"The Smart Way to Beat (peace talks in Colombia initiated by leaders with 70% approval ratings) Like Chávez"

also

"The Smart Way to Beat (revile, slander, destabilize and topple good leaders) Like Chávez"

and don't forget

"The Smart Way to Beat (cutbacks in U.S. war/police-state spending by lauding fascist killers and drug traffickers as 'friends and allies,' and demonizing leaders who have harmed no one) Like Chávez"

and finally

The Smart Way to Beat (dominate, torture, kill and steal from the poor, un-) Like Chávez"

by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html

Oil War II: South America. Announced by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07, in the Washington Post. Launching pad: Colombia. Tactics: economic warfare, U.S. military intervention ("swift action" in support of "friends and allies"). First target (unstated): Bolivia, destabilize, split the country in two so the rightwing gains control of the gas-rich rural provinces, and re-impose the "war on drugs" in that area, to deal with peasant farmers, union leaders, political leftists, human rights workers, etc.; starve out the central government of indigenous President Evo Morales; try to instigate a shooting war involving allies Venezuela and Ecuador. Part two: "war on drugs" border incursions against oil-rich Venezuela and Ecuador; destabilization; U.S. military intervention in support of "friends and allies." Goal: re-install fascist regimes in the oil-rich Andes region, for the benefit of Exxon-Mobile, Occidental Petroleum, Bechtel, Blackwater, the World Bank, and brethren.

A fellow can dream, can't he...in his "retirement"?

:nuke:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:56 PM
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10. Power to harm others once enjoyed seems addictive. Most surely in Rumsfeld's case.
No doubt so many people have said, "Donald, you know, it's time you polished your real skills and went out and followed your first love: riding your unicycle in the circus!"



Unfortunately, he's developed a raging obsession to see Latin American blood flowing in the streets again as it hasn't flown since Ronald Reagan, to see some leftists being thrown from airplanes and helicopters as they were during Nixon, and Ford, through Kissinger's careful guidance.

If there will EVER be justice upon the face of this earth it has to involve getting Bush out of office without his "Defense" Department, under Rumsfeld's "retired" direction launch a Dirty War to end all Dirty Wars against the Latin American leftist leaders who want the Bush administration to mind its own business.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:32 PM
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11. Anyone who hasn't suspected there was more to Bush #41's attack on Panama than our media admitted
should take the time to watch this documentary narrated by Elizabeth Montgomery. Bush #41 launched this attack on Panamanian citizens at midnight, December 19, 1989:

~~~~ link ~~~~

Or see it from Democracy Now:
On December 19, 1989, U.S. troops invaded Panama with the stated purpose of ousting the man the media loved to hate, General Manuel Noriega.

Noriega was once a close ally to Washington and was once on the CIA payroll. After 1986, Noriega’s relationship with Washington took a turn for the worse. The Irancontra scandal forced three of his closest U.S. ties to leave the government. U.S. foreign policy quickly shifted against and Noriega went from friend to foe.

During the attack, the U.S. unleashed a force of 24,000 troops equipped with highly sophisticated weaponry and aircraft against a country with an army smaller than the New York City Police Department.

But the mainstream media failed to uncover the hidden reasons for this internationally condemned attack.

“The Panama Deception” provides analysis of U.S. relations with Panama and a devastating critique of the mainstream media and its complicity with the official government line.

Produced and directed by Barbara Trent, “The Panama Deception” was banned in Panama but it won an Oscar here in 1992 for Best Documentary as well as numerous other awards.
http://www.democracynow.org/2003/6/13/the_panama_deception_the_untold_story

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