Dems show massive popular voting turnout

[goofticket]

Source: CNN vote totals

The Dems won Super Tuesday.
Hands down, with popular voting well exceeding 6 Million, over Republicans.

The GOP won only two states, out of 22, in popular voting, excluding caucus states.

Romney & Huckabee lost their homestates to Dems, in popular votes.

Traditional GOP strongholds flipped over to being bluer than blue: Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma and Tennessee all had higher Dem voter turnout.

The pollsters are chasing their tails, trying to figure out some kind of, any kind of trend from this massive voter expression.

2008 is the voter's election.
The party's and strategists have become useless, hood ornaments, at this point.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

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I'm in Wisconsin and we are ready for the robocalls, TV ads and punditry.
PS: We have not elected a Republican President since 1984....yep, that's 24 years.

[Zenlitened]

1. Fifth rec!

:dem: :dem: :dem:

:)

[grace0418]

2. Too bad everyone is too busy declaring Hillary is god and Obama the devil or vice versa

to bother getting excited about this.

[Stuckinthebush]

4. I know...it's like a room full of kindergartners around here

....who haven't had a nap.

[grace0418]

11. You're wrong.

Kindergartners, with or without naps, are much kinder to one another and much more logical. ;)

[Stuckinthebush]

14. Point well taken

I stand corrected.

:hi:

[Frances]

6. I think a McCain-Huckabee ticket will be formidable

because the South will vote Repub then.

Maybe to keep up the excitement, we will have to have a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket.

[NJ Logician]

13. Yeah but I am worried

I spoke with an Obama campaign worker who was distriubting flyers at my local train station last night prior to the tally of results for SD Tuesday. I asked her what she plans to do if Hillary should come in first (I am an Obama supporter, but would support Hillary and never vote for a Republican).

She looked me in the eye and said she would sit out the general election in November since she perceived no difference between Clinton and McCain.

This worries me to no end. The GOP will mount a horrible fear and smear campaign, and we will need every vote. I do not know if this campaign worker is an indicator of a widespread attituded among young Obama supporters-- but there needs to be some serious education about seeing shades of political gray.

[SallyMander]

25. Hey, welcome to DU!

:hi:


I am with you, btw... i'll vote for our nominee no matter who he/she is. I want to knock some sense into people who are going to sit it out if "their candidate" doesn't get the nod... :grr:

[cannabis_flower]

33. Maybe my Republican friend ...

who told me that he just might have to kill himself if the choice is between McCain and Clinton, and this girl will cancel each other out.

Although he told me he would vote for Obama before he would vote for McCain, although he said he might just sit out the election if McCain is the nominee. Perhaps a lot of Republicans will sit out.

[Chovexani]

40. My friend at work, my age (26) is a hardcore Obama supporter

And he's said more than once he's going to vote for McCain if Hillary gets the nom. And he's a gay brother. I tried to tell him about the Supreme Court, etc but he just didn't want to listen. :puke:

[Sam Ervin jret]

48. Some men hate Hillary more than they love their own Constitutional freedom and they NEED to GET

OVER IT! There's a lot at stake here. Grow up. Look. Read. Learn. McCain would BE BAD for the ideals that OBAMA outlines. You cannot say the same for Hillary.

And if Huckabee is his running mate, your gay friend better hope the "rapture" and the end of the world comes before the end of a McCain presidency.

[Chovexani]

50. LOL that's exactly what I told him

We'd better hope the rapture takes their ass away before they get the chance to throw us in hetero re-education camps.

[superconnected]

61. Sometimes gays actually hate women.

I've seen it before.

Of course all of my friends who are gay are cool though. :)

That person may want to remind their friend that there is no country on earth that supresses womens rights that doesn't kill gays. So when the rights of women go, the gays die. It follows that when women gain more rights the gays start to gain acceptance. And yeah we should all get equal rights, I'm just saying how the countries of the world work.

[Chovexani]

70. Sexism and homophobia are hopelessly entertwined

I try to explain this, but...:shrug: :(

[Megahurtz]

55. Holy Shit

what is wrong with these people? :wtf:

[Cant trust em]

62. I suspect that some of these people

will come to their senses as soon as the general election comes around.

[SquireJons]

15. Bingo!

I really do not understand the euphoria that I see at DU. IMO, the pugs are better organized and better disciplined. They are going to rally behind McCain and probably stick the Huckster on the ticket to make the fundies happy. McCain will rip large chunks of independents away from the Democratic ticket and Clinton has huge negative numbers to overcome if she is on the ticket. I know of several people who are liberals who will not vote for a ticket that includes Clinton. What's worse, for what ever reason, they seem to think McCain is a decent candidate.

Looks like a reprise of 1988 to me.

[Hawaii Hiker]

17. Yeah, but if Huckabee is the VP, do you realize all the things

the Democrats will be able to go after him on??....He is a lunatic of the highest order...I mean, the only difficult thing is to decide where to start....He is just a more sedate version of Rick Santorum or Sam Brownback, the only thing missing is the fire & brimstone rhetoric that the other 2 use....

This article covers just how much of a loon Huckabee is...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/17324246/matt_taibbi_on_mike_huckabee_our_favorite_rightwing_nut_job

[pocoloco]

23. LOL

So is * and he's been there 2 terms!!

[SquireJons]

29. More of a loon then Reagan?

Nope.

The way modern politics works in America, it's more about who you turn on, rather than turn off that matters. Plenty of people have been offended by republican tactics dating all the way back to the Willie Horton ads, but so what? There are a lot of ignorant people in this country and if they have an ignorant candidate to vote for, then they will turn out.

Sure, Huckabee's views on science and religion are whacked, but so are a lot of peoples. My point was that the pugs are going to come together, weaving together the various parts of their constituencies, and they are going to offer their best shot at wining the White House. Once again, the Dems seem to think that just because they are right on the issues, the White House will naturally follow. Seems like they never learn anything.

If the Dems insists on offering Hillary Clinton, they will lose to McCain.

[Hawaii Hiker]

31. McCain's not as nutty as Huckabee, but his strong support for Iraq will hurt him

"If the Dems insists on offering Hillary Clinton, they will lose to McCain"....

See, I don't know about that....If you look at last nights results, Democratic turnout was outstanding, not just in NY & CA, but Missouri, Georgia, & some other areas as well....

First, McCain will absolutely get clobbered in NY, CA, IL, NJ, CT, & a couple other states regardless if its Obama or Clinton....And I think Obama would win Iowa & Clinton would win Arkansas & BOTH will be competitive in Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado...

McCain is absolutely beatable...

[FVZA_Colonel]

71. Beatable, without a doubt, but not easily.

You made good points - both candidates could do it. The question is, which one would have a better chance of doing so?

[NJ Logician]

30. I agree... but

Do you realize how much of this country thinks well of his evangelical nuttiness? His support is huge in Southern/Bible Belt states. One cannot see his lunatic candidacy through a DUer filter.
I would not be too sure that everyone will see how nutty he is, if he appears on the Republican's ticket.

[renate]

47. welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Zambero]

69. Huckabee would not be a factor in the south

As is typically the case, the GOP will secure those states anyway. He might increase the margin of victory a bit, but after the popular votes are counted, the southern state electoral vote tally will be unaffected. Huckabee could well become more of a liability north of the Mason-Dixon and out west. His presence on the ticket could turn off independent voters and help swing states like Ohio, Colorado, and New Mexico to the Dem ticket for example.

[mwb970]

67. You say the Republicans will "rally around McCain".

Boy, that's not what I'm seeing. They seem to hate the guy. But that's OK, we apparently hate our front runner too!

[DUlover2909]

42. except that the Wingnuts are trashing both of them.

I listened to Mark Levin last night and they hate both of them. They want Romney and they are not gonna get him! Yay!

[radfringe]

43. huckabee would rally the fundies round mccain

be it obama or clinton as the dem nominee - they need to start planting seeds to counteract the "family values" crap that will come if huckabee is mccain's sidekick

reframe it as "VALUING FAMILIES"
and show how the family value rhetoric is just that - rhetoric period. that for all the family value talk, nothing the repubs have done show any concern for the health of families, and tend to destroy families by favoring corporations and other big wigs.

the way to value families is to have a healthCARE system that puts people before profits
the way to value families is to enact legislation that protects families from predatory lending practices and other financial schemes which puts their jobs and welfare at risk

basically spin the dem platform as VALUEING FAMILIES

[momlyd]

59. THAT

is a winner!

Have you contacted either the Obama or Clinton campaigns about this? You should - ASAP. That is brilliant!

[radfringe]

65. Have you contacted either the Obama or Clinton campaigns about this?

I've sent a few e-mails off to the campaigns - explaining what I mean by this, but I fear they were just put in some round file. If you work on Clinton or Obama's campaign or know somebdy who does and have some contacts up the 'food chain', and agree with this perhaps you would pass it along.

here's a longer version of the premise:


reframe it as "VALUING FAMILIES"

show how the family value rhetoric is just that - rhetoric period. that for all the family value talk, nothing the repubs have done show any concern for the health of families, and tend to destroy families by favoring corporations and other big wigs. that all the blather about family values are just empty words. Words do not put food on the table, nor give people jobs, nor do they provide healthcare or education.

- the way to value families is to have a healthCARE system that puts people before profits. A healthCARE system which ensures the medications needed are available, affordable and safe

- the way to value families is to enact legislation that protects families from predatory lending practices and other financial schemes which puts their jobs and welfare at risk

- the way to value families is to have an education system which educates

- the way to value families is to have an emergency management system that is able to respond quickly and effectively. to help families in the most dire time of need (think katrina and the recent tornado outbreak)

- the way to value families is to have a veterans system which helps the the troops returning from war.

- the way to value families is to have a social security system the helps families with with their senior members

- the way to value families is to have a forward looking environmental policy to provide clean air, clean water, safe food for the current and future generation

- the way to value families is to encourage job creation here at home and not reward companies who ship jobs overseas.

- the way to value families is to have a foreign policy which focuses on peace and prosperity, not on war and destruction.

- the way to value families is to have a domestic policy that embraces all families.

- the way to value families is to have a policy that is open to science and research, not one that discourages or rewrites findings.

- the way to value families is to have a justice system based on justice not partisan politics.

- the way to value families is to respect and follow the Constitution of the United States - not by looking for loopholes or weasling around it through the use of executive priviledge or signing statements.

(too numerous to list, but after each of these points - list the legislation the repubs have defeated)

the slogan for those backdrop signs:
AMERICA VALUES FAMILIES


not sure how to work it in, but if it's a McHuckster ticket - the only thing they are promising is more wars, less jobs and a bible

[4dsc]

46. How about a McCain-Lieberman ticket??

Think about it for a second..

[jamesinca]

20. I peed myself twice already

Tivo'd it so I could watch it again and again. Pointed it out at a return party I was at. Everybody was looking at who won and I pointed that out number between D and R and the whole mood changed in the room.

[thereismore]

3. Dems will turn out in November! nt

[Divine Discontent]

32. I think the DEMS turn out in far more numbers than the conservative

base every time, but voter suppression and vote manipulation amount to a few million less votes being cast or counted.

These numbers, when they're not trying to do these things in our nominating process like they would in the GE, show there are far more progressives than close-minded bigots.



WILL WE SIT WITH OUR HANDS BEHIND OUR BACK IF WE'RE TOLD - 'OH, IT WAS CLOSE, BUT MCCAIN WON MICHIGAN BY 8,000 VOTES AND THEREFORE THE PRESIDENCY!'

[humbled_opinion]

5. This is the real story...

Democratic voters are 2 to 1 turnout Landslide victory in NOV for the Democratic candidate.... Whomever it is.

[LynnTheDem]

7. "trying to figure out some kind of, any kind of trend"? That's easy...

bUsh & his republicans SUCK.

[Sam Ervin jret]

49. lol, lol, lol, but true

[RuleOfNah]

8. It is time to STOP suppressing vote fraud investigations.

The suppression spin was: talk of vote fraud would keep people away from the voting booth.

That has been proven to be a false assumption.

However, if even DU management participates in the suppression scam, it seems likely that the expensive media will continue to promote that fraudulent thought for the foreseeable future.

[paparush]

9. But, will the November Margins be Beyond the Reach

Of the Neocon Election Stealing Machine (tm) ??

[libbygurl]

10. Super! Go Dems! nt

[jody]

12. Possible contributing factors, (a) Voters who would not vote for either of the top two candidates

refused to vote and (b) the number of black voters was much higher than in previous elections.

[Hawaii Hiker]

16. Voter turnout was the big story, no doubt

"The Dems won Super Tuesday.
Hands down, with popular voting well exceeding 6 Million, over Republicans.

The GOP won only two states, out of 22, in popular voting, excluding caucus states.

Romney & Huckabee lost their homestates to Dems, in popular votes".


That is great fucking news!...
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[rasputin1952]

18. There is a little irony in this:

"The pollsters are chasing their tails, trying to figure out some kind of, any kind of trend from this massive voter expression."

It all comes down to the citizens of this nation coming to the realization that the neo-con agenda, and bush have come about as close as possible to destroying this great nation. I had to listen to Limbaugh today to hear his "excuses" for what happened last night, and it is precisely as I figured it would be, he's blaming everything on anything but the root of the problem...conservatism.

People are going hungry; we are getting sicker and not having health care; we have not seen any improvement in real wages, but our workload has increased; the Middle Class is facing extinction...all because of conservative ideologies gone amok.

Then we have the war...a war that McCain says we may be fighting for 100 years...long after he and actually all of us will be dead, American blood will still be spilled in Iraq? I don't think so.

We are watching the destruction of the GOP, it is fractured and will not be put back together for a LONG time. As the neo-cons fondle the corpse of Ronald Reagan, begging to be allowed to have some say in the government...we will begin repairing this nation, and returning it to a place where we can once again be proud and respected for our experiment in democracy.

So here we go...this will be a landslide, and we all have to work to get not just a D in the WH, but ensure there are majorities in both house of congress.

The #'s show we will crush this neo-con movement once and for all, sending it back to the hell it came from.

[Chovexani]

41. Preach on

This should be its own post. :yourock:

[rasputin1952]

45. Well...it's gonna take work on our part...

but we're at the point now, where the entire nation is sick of this insanity. The biggest thing we can do now is make sure we, and everyone we talk to goes to the polls and tears this monstrosity called the "bush agenda" tho shreds once and for all...:)

And for God's sake...I never want to hear about "Reagan" again...funny how they went from the Party of Lincoln, to the Party of Reagan...:eyes:

[Sam Ervin jret]

51. from your "keyboard to God's ear" LET the political universe realign itself.

[krkaufman]

19. If you're in/near Milwaukee, I hope you've got a snowblower. nt

:)

[AllyCat]

36. Madison just as bad. I'm supposed to be at work at 3:00...daycare closed

Husband said he'd be home by 2:00 and just called to say they have closed the highway he was on...now I'll be late. I work at a hospital and they will pay for a cab, but not if I live in an outlying area (I do). I've already told them I'll get there when I get there. 6 people have already called in for PM shift...and they live IN TOWN. But I'll make it. Somehow.

[krkaufman]

38. My brother, a podiatrist in Milwaukee, says they've closed hospitals there.

He called me to get access to his office computer, so he could start calling patients to reschedule tomorrow's appts.

Be safe.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

21. Dems showed a massive popular voting turnout in Nov 2004, too

How was it, again, that we didn't win that year?

[travelingtypist]

64. Uh, well, I think 2004 had something to do with...

...a chicken**** for a candidate who folded his tent and went
home before the fight for Ohio had even begun.

Have to be careful. If you say something too un-nice about the
2004 Dem candidate, the mods here have itchy trigger fingers and
hit delete.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

66. Well, I was alluding more to the idea that the election was stolen

through e-voting fraud and other tricks, and tricks are happening again this time in special, new ways, already (eg driving certain candidates out of the race), but you are right, it didn't help that Mr picklehead didn't keep his promise to count every vote.

[FATCATs]

22. When this family feud is over

I hope we can come together and right the wrongs that have been inflicted
upon our Nation by these greedy godamed Re-Pukes.

Lets NEVER forget, THEY are the enemy not each other.

It’s WE folks not ME

Quote goofticket
"I'm in Wisconsin and we are ready for the robocalls, TV ads and punditry.
PS: We have not elected a Republican President since 1984....yep, that's 24 years."

Now that is something to be proud of guys ! Recomended....Big Time.
:toast: :bounce: :hi: :kick: :yourock:

[gorfle]

24. I'm not surprised at all.

And you don't need a flashlight to see the trend.

Republicans are not happy with their choices of candidates. None of my Republican friends or family are particularly inspired by their choices. Most are angry because either the war is not being pressed aggressively enough to suit them or they are against the war and see it as a massive welfare program for Iraq. A fair number are also sick of the encroachment of religion into Republican politics.

About the only thing most of my friends and family appreciate about the Republican party is its stance on the 2nd Amendment. That wasn't enough to keep me on board.

[Deny and Shred]

26. Don't forget..this is the American electorate we're talking about

Many Americans don't vote in primaries. Don't get me wrong, the Dem turnout is very encouraging. GOP voters of all stripes WILL turn out in November even if they didn't have a 'true conservative' to rally behind this primary season. Rural, minority, and low-income voters have had trying times just to cast votes and/or get them counted in the past two Prez elections. Not so for any voter from traditional GOP strongholds. ALL of their votes WILL be counted.

The big question is how the non-primary voters who do vote for President will vote. As we know, they are uber-fickle, basing their votes as much on who'd they rather have a beer with, or who has a mono-brow as anything policy-related. With an unfortunately not-so-insignificant portion of these voters, a black guy or a woman will be enough to swing them the other way.

McCain will have pull with independents and swing voters. Either Dem candidate will have to run a good campaign. They will be smeared aplenty, and the MSM will sandbag them with slanted questions, so either one must be careful not to step in it.

They've hijacked FLA, OH, the Supreme Ct, announced last minute indictments against Dems in State elections. If this race IS closer in October than it appears today, the smarm of the GOP ought not be underestimated.

[geardaddy]

27. I'm in Minnesota

and we haven't elected a Republican president since 1972, so there!

:P ;)

[kestrel91316]

28. At my precinct polling place in Los Angeles, I noted with some

humor that there were SIX Dem booths and only TWO Rep booths.

And a poll worker was on the phone at 7 PM complaining to somebody that they were almost out of Dem ballots.

I LOVES me a big turnout!!!!!

[AllyCat]

34. The numbers are impressive. Time for the GOP to roll out their plan for '08

Just read Greg Palast's Armed Madhouse to see how they will do it again and we'll have President McCain no matter what we do.

Sorry to be such a downer, but I just don't trust them even a little bit.

[northamericancitizen]

35. I posted this message last night in the wrong forum....so here it is again

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4427154&mesg_id=4427154

I followed the results on American and Canadian TV stations. The big thing, the focus, the excitation tonight were all about the Democratic Party and it's 2 main candidates.

Nobody (or almost) questions the fact that your next president will be a democratic candidate.

A Light Blue or Dark Blue...
We,outside of the USA, don't care which Blue you will be choosing as long as it is Blue...

Red is synonym of nightmares and lies.
Red is synonym of money power and treason.
Red is synonym of war and death.


But the redness of the Republican party is not the main focus tonight.

Not for me and neither for my friends: Canadians, Europeans, Africans...

We, the rest of the world, want America to become more human, more humble, less interventionist. This can happen only if there is a big change in the White House.


Here indulge me to quote a Canadian poll: a percentage (sorry I don't remember the exact number) of our voting population is ready to give up it's right to vote in our Prime Minister election in exchange to be granted the right to vote in Your Election Day.

Think about it...

We all support you in your fight against the bushcos. We all support you so you can find your Voice again.

On a more personal note, if you allow me, dear neighbors.

All of last fall, I would had chosen Obama.
In the last few weeks I was wavering between him and Hilary.
This morning I would had voted for her.
Tonight I would had voted for him.

Why can't you guys find a way to have both of them together?

I know, I know, it's not how it works in the US of A.
But one can dream.

To paraphrase a dear friend: In any case, tonight was Your night.
And there many more to come.

So Cheers to you American friends.

northamericancitizen
lise

[Sam Ervin jret]

52. here's to working for a better "neighborhood"

sometimes some of us forget how much of an impact our relatively small nation can and does have, for better or worse, in the world. Your letter is a good reminder that our own pocketbooks and civil liberties, as if that were not enough, are not the only things at stake in this election.

As a mother who has raised teens and a teacher of teens we need to remind the USA, even we cannot stay teenagers forever. We need to grow up and take our place as equal partners, not the "big bully" in the world "play yard."

[beyurslf]

37. 6 million votes for Dems? Time says each of them had over 7 million.

<http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/02/super_tuesday_the_most_interes.html>

Total votes for R's was only 8 million. Clinton and Obama almost each beat them all combined!

[Chovexani]

39. That's the great thing about voter turnout

It ALWAYS favors Dems. We outnumber the Pukes, plain and simple...this is why you always see them trying voter suppression bullshit.

I have the feeling we're going to be in for even more than usual this time around. Stay vigilant.

[JoePhilly]

44. Clinton / Obama .... and its no contest.

[Hamlette]

53. how many people voted in GOP contests vs Dem contests?

I dont' see a count at the link.

Anyone know?

How does this compare to past years?

[cbayer]

54. That's what I'm talkin about!

A positive post with great discussion on the subjects that really should be what we are talking about today!
Kudos to all the DU'ers that posted here.
K&R

[calteacherguy]

56. That is absolutely wonderful! nt

[Dumak]

57. We had a HUGE turnout

At our caucus in Colorado, the previous record turnout for my precinct was 23. This time, it was 120.
The facility, a high school, was used for several precincts. Overall, about 3000 people showed up, but 1000 had to be *turned away* because there wasn't enough room. They weren't able to vote.

[paparush]

58. Margins in November need to be HUGE to thwart the Neocon Election Stealing Machine (tm)

[superconnected]

60. We want our country back!

[L. Coyote]

63. REC # 52 It was an exciting night to watch. I might pick a candidate soon too!

Maybe. Or, maybe I'll wait a good bit longer to decide.

[GTurck]

68. I'm wondering..

what kind of dirty tricks are going to be played here in Texas; especially central Texas within 50 miles of Crawford. This is going to be wild and hopefully enlightening. My hope is that the Black and Latino voters will turn out in droves and whack the be-jesus out of the predictors and pundits. As a honky/gringa it won't matter to me that they do so because it is time, again, for this nation to feel the power of the people who actually have to live in the real world.
I am really angry at where this country has been going for the past 28 years and the damage that has been done to it by the self-satisfied and arrogant. So I wonder who and what dirty tricks are out there and what the decent people of this state and country will do about them when they occur. Hopefully we still have enough sense of America as a Constitutional system to fight for our political souls.