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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:25 AM
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FBI ‘Clean Team’ re-interrogated 9/11 suspects
Source: MSNBC

Agency tried non-coercive techniques to protect case against six detainees

FBI and military interrogators who began work with the suspects in late 2006 called themselves the "Clean Team," and set as their goal collecting of virtually the same information the CIA had obtained from five of the six through duress at secret prisons.


To ensure that the data would not be tainted by allegations of torture or illegal coercion, the FBI and military team won the suspects' trust over the past 16 months by using time-tested rapport-building techniques, the officials said.

Was coercive interrogation needed?
An unanswered question is whether the FBI and military interrogators could have extracted the same information without a road map from the CIA indicating what they might say. It also remains unknowable whether the detainees would have responded to a friendly approach without first receiving more aggressive treatment.

‘Cleansing’ the case
Prosecutors and top administration officials essentially wanted to cleanse the information so that it could be used in court, a process that federal prosecutors typically follow in U.S. criminal cases with investigative problems or botched interrogations. Officials wanted to go into court without any doubts about the viability of their evidence, and they had serious reservations about the reliability of what the CIA had obtained for intelligence purposes.







Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23120362



Absent from almost all black/white discussion of torturing has been the fact that not only does it not work but that INTERROGATION does. No one disputes that but it has been conveniently left out by every talking head that *I* have seen.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:46 AM
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1. It's a bit late using the "cleansing" method when they already used torture on the same people.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:00 AM
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3. Also, the clean team cannot cleanse the crime of torture
which should still be prosecuted.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:31 PM
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10. Fruit of the poisonous tree, still poisonous...but clean and polished, ya know
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:54 AM
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2. Once torture is applied, the threat of additional torture remains forever
there is no such thing as an after the fact clean team.

In the prisioner's mind there will always be the fear that if he does not cooperate, the torture will return.



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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:14 AM
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6. I would reword this slightly -
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 11:15 AM by JBoy
In the prisoner's mind there will always be the fear that if he does not tell them again what they wanted to hear, the torture will return.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:37 AM
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7. A subtle but important point
Thanks!

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 AM
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4. Why isn't this rec'd to the Greatest page?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:09 AM
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5. First we torture them, then we spike them. But, that's okay. We used a "clean team"
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 11:19 AM by leveymg
Might as well just skip the trial part, and proceed directly to the execution phase. Or, we could just torture them again. And, again . . . Rinse, and repeat.

Better make it quick before someone gets them on tape explaining what they can still remember before they were waterboarded.

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:40 AM
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8. Code word for waterboarding.
Re-interrogated. What a bunch of ASS Clowns.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:13 PM
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9. Interesting that the same who claimed torture...
are now being targeted for the DP.


The "cleansing" seems to be of the mess Repugs have made before the Dems get to the WH in January.

Dead men tell no tales. :(
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