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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:07 PM
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NY Hispanics Question Clinton Aide Exit
Source: Associated Press

NY Hispanics Question Clinton Aide Exit

By MICHAEL GORMLEY – 23 minutes ago

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Two New York Hispanic leaders said they would be upset if Hillary Rodham Clinton's Hispanic campaign manager was replaced because of primary losses they believe should be blamed on former President Bill Clinton and others.

Patti Solis Doyle, whose parents were Mexican immigrants, stepped down as Clinton's campaign manager this weekend as Clinton was losing five Democratic contests to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. Clinton has said Doyle's decision was a personal response to a grueling campaign, not about job performance. She added that Solis Doyle would remain a senior adviser and that her campaign needed to add more staff.

In a letter to Clinton dated Monday and obtained by The Associated Press, State Sen. Ruben Diaz Jr. and Assemblyman Joseph Peralta, both New York City Democrats, wrote that they are inclined to believe the explanation, but `it will be very troubling to many if somehow we later find that she left her post under pressure because of the recent primary losses your campaign suffered."

The lawmakers credited Solis Doyle with helping build Hispanic support for Clinton and wrote that they hoped she was not "the one to take the blame and resign from her post instead of others involved with your campaign, including former President Clinton, who have caused serious problems and embarrassing situations for your campaign."

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Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gOFIWXP7EMXpABYANOODjGLdsbYgD8UP16LO0
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:10 PM
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1. Clinton loves Hispanics
she made a change for her campaign organization....not reflective of anything more than that
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:32 AM
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20. Clinton loves Hispanics?
lol

Clinton loves promoting herself. She's replaced the latina with a black woman because those are the votes she's going for. I've never seen such a nakedly ugly campaign in my life.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:38 PM
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25. She told a Texan audience that she eats hot chilis, and they help her complexion
She also eats mango ice cream!

The crowd of mostly undocumented aliens roared with approval!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:11 PM
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2. How exactly would Bill resign from the campaign?
Unfortunately the positions that go in these campaign shake up situations are the spoksesperson and the campaign manager.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:13 PM
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3. It struck me as odd that men plotted the strategy (Penn, McAuliffe)
and a woman got the boot. Same old, same old.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:57 PM
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8. Are you serious?!?
Hillary's campaign is Hemorrhaging support, money, and votes left and right. Whoever was leading the show had to be fired. And they couldn't fire Hillary, so it had to be Solis Doyle. I can't believe that isn't obvious to everyone. I can't believe some in the latino community are calling Clinton out for this. And in case you didn't notice, Solis Doyle was replaced by another woman, so your point is mute.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:29 PM
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14. Maybe even moot.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:12 AM
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19. Haha thanks for the correction.
As soon as I posted that I felt something was wrong. Turns out there was. I'll take constructive criticism from some one in Collin County any day though. :)
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:19 PM
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24. Sorry about that--
I try not to be a spelling and grammar Nazi, but the mute/moot confusion is right at the top of my pet peeve list. I couldn't help myself.

:hi:
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The Croquist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:58 AM
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22. Firing Doyle is like firing a baseball manager
You can't fire the owner or fire the entire team in the middle of a season. In about three weeks the regular season will be over and unless they make the playoffs everybody else will get fired including Hillary.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:57 PM
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9. Hillary would rather pay $4M to Penn, keep McAuliffe, and blame the woman staffer for their failure
Hillary is a defender of the patriarchy, as Jane Fonda said.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:29 AM
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16. amen to that!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:14 PM
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4. The shark jumping competition starts in 15 minutes
Please line up to the right in an orderly fashion.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:23 PM
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7. Aaaaayyyyyyeeee!!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:09 PM
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10. Ew. nt
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:16 PM
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5. I'm no clintonite, but this is just stupid
stupid stupid stupid
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:17 PM
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6. oh that's asinine
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:12 PM
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11. Check out the NY Post
And I know it's trash - but I was wondering if Clinton might piss of Hispanics with this and this will also have time for the momentum to build.

'SUPER' LATINO SLAMS CLINTON

February 12, 2008 -- A prominent member of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispanics and should give "pause" to superdelegates and voters.

The e-mail from, Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate who heads the voting-rights committee of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, was sent to fellow caucus members in the hours after word broke that Solis Doyle - the most prominent Latina in Clinton's campaign - would be replaced by another close Clinton loyalist, Maggie Williams, who is black.

The e-mail noted that Clinton, who is looking to Latino voters for a boost in the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, scored heavily with Hispanics in her California win.

"Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street," he wrote. "Latino superdelegates like myself . . . will have cause to pause."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02122008/news/nationalnews/super_latino_slams_clinton_97237.htm
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:24 PM
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12. 'SUPER' LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
great headline
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:32 PM
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13. Presumably Bill got his chain yanked too.
He's been (relatively) quiet and apologetic lately.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:16 PM
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15. Could he possibly stay that way
for four, or eight years? I'm not seeing a reason how he could...
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:30 AM
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17. he should have had his chain yanked years ago
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:41 AM
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18. Wow! Zing! And why is
she stepping down?
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:28 AM
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21. And so now, who is playing the race card?
The Clintons are damned if they do and damned if they don't. It could be that she just sees her staff as campaign workers and is making changes that she feels in necessary. If these people had been all white what would folks be saying about staff changes. John Kerry just about got rid of his entire campaign staff around this time when he was running. No one said a word about John firing all those white people.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:38 AM
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23. Yeah, pisses me off when the latino and other minority groups use race
and I'm one of those groups. Maybe she was out of her depth. If she was good she would have told HRC to jettison Mark Penn a long time ago
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