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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:33 PM
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45,000 People Quit AARP Over Medicare
By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - At least 45,000 people have quit the AARP over its support for Medicare legislation last year, association president William Novelli said Friday.

The nation's largest seniors' organization provided a key boost to Republicans who led the effort to revamp the Medicare program for older and disabled Americans and provide insurance coverage for prescription drugs.

AARP's endorsement unleashed a torrent of criticism from Democratic lawmakers and seniors across the nation accusing AARP of allowing its business relationship with insurers to drive its decision. Novelli has called the criticism baseless.

But AARP officials said many members do not understand the complex legislation and are unhappy with it.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=541&e=1&u=/ap/medicare_aarp

So, basically AARP is saying that a lot of seniors are TOO STUPID to understand the bill! Well, I think we can understand the INTENT, even if it is written too deceptively to understand all of the actual workings.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:35 PM
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1. Two former members here
And they still send us junk.

I send the postage-paid envelopes back to them.
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:41 PM
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3. 2 more ex members here
Likewise, they keep sending more "special offers" for drugs and insurance. Apparently they are concerned about gaining more business and more profit especially with the new changes the republicans pushed through .
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:10 PM
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14. That's a great idea! MD
I quit that org long ago but continue to get stuff from them. Sending it back with a "little" message on outside sounds like a great idea! Woohoo :P
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:37 PM
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18. I'm going to do that too
I cancelled the day I heard, but their stuff is still coming....thanks for the idea!
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:20 PM
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23. I quit also..
they're sending me things on a weekly basis now.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:53 PM
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36. Put a handful of pennies in there and it costs them double to get it
back!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 01:07 AM
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37. I've heard of people stuffing those envelopes with their junk mail!
Hilarious! Nice 'n heavy, and it's a great way to recycle! And yes, they have to pay for it!
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:46 AM
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41. 2 exs here
they sent life insurance info their cost for spouse 43 month....the Global Insurance for same amount almost 28 a month...sent the info back and told them to stick it and bush up their collective a**s!!!
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chillwindblowing Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:46 AM
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43. AARP sells out

Former members here.. send all mail back .... good-bye... take us off list... It seems like a useless thing to do but, we have to stat somewhere.......x(
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:52 AM
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45. Always Advancing the Republican Program ain't seen NOTHING yet
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 11:53 AM by The Zanti Regent
Wait till you see millions leave when it endorses Bush's plan to play the market with Social Security!
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:54 AM
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47. Always Advancing the Republican Program ain't seen NOTHING yet
Watch and see what happens when Novello and his crooks endorse Bush's plan to privitize Social Security!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:38 PM
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2. They consider the resignations "weeding out" those not on the program
so they can change the AARP into another right wing organization.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:46 PM
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4. And when the new Medicare plan is revealed
I expect the toll in the millions. We'll have to wait until 05 for the fine print.
The donut hole and the claw is being understood by a few, but it is also going over the head of most folks.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:59 PM
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5. There will be plenty more............
that won't renew when their memberships expire as well. I quit, but my Mom isn't going to until her subscription expires. I couldn't wait that long to voice my displeasure.
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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:09 PM
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7. Thats my plan too -- I won't renew my membership
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:04 PM
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6. We quit AARP long ago.
To-day I signed up with the Alliance for Retired Americans.

180
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:11 PM
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15. I pegged you for the Gray Panthers
you renegade you. :7
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:26 PM
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16.  Skittles.
I have no gray hair. Not old enough.

180
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Sallyrat Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:36 PM
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8. Divide & Conquer
Another rove tactic to divide and conquer another group......started with the churches and now the seniors. The most cruel bunch ever in the history of the USA......(USA,INC.)
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:33 PM
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17. That's ok...
Karl is now having to deal with 1/3 of his coalition going off the reservation. What 'The Price of Loyalty' did was give voice to the PaleoCon movement, and give Republicans permission to actively oppose the PNAC/Apocalypse wings of the party. And since they actually have more money, this could be kinda painful for Turdblossom.

Wedge issues, they're not just for independents anymore.
I would not want to be in charge of bringing the O'Neil reading wing of the Rubadubs back in line.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:56 PM
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9. If they are saying 45,000
It's probably double that....two more x's here.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:00 PM
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11. We will quit soon too: not enough nastiness has yet been crafted into our
letter of resignation.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:52 PM
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20. And that's not counting prospective members
I was just about to join (for the insurance benefits) when the Medicare thing hit. I'm waiting for their next mailing so I can tell them so.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 09:22 PM
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34. another reason that number may be low ....
I telephoned and asked them to cancel my membership and return the money, last November. Two weeks ago, I noticed they hadn't yet returned my membership fee that I asked them to return. I telephoned again and found I was still a full-fledged member. They had no record of my resignation. I told them again to cancel my membership and return the money. I finally got the money back.

They probably did the same thing to a lot of people .... not cancel their membership, even though they phoned and asked.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:00 PM
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10. Another one here
my husband quit. We still get their propaganda filled newsletter. Filled with lots of justification for supportin the bill and continuing to try to sell seniors on it. My husband uses it to start a fire.
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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:04 PM
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12. Two more FORMER members here
That 45,000 count is like the casualty count in Iraq, total bullshit, their phone lines were jammed for weeks.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:05 PM
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13. Aww, just like those Florida voters.
How about they understand the legislation real well and get perfectly that AARP sold them out?

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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:38 PM
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19. Seniors understand Medicare and their benefits very thoroughly.
After all, it is vital to them.

And seniors vote! It is hard to keep them away from the polls.

I just became eligible to join AARP. I sent the letter back, too. My husband is eligible as well.

So, here are two more who want nothing to do with them.
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TheDalaiMama Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:58 PM
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21. I quit..demanded a refund..got a full 3 yr refund..they can all go to hell
dalai
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:13 PM
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22. I resigned earlier this year for another reason
they act like there are no gay seniors. my patner is allowing his to expire. We sent a solicitation letter back last week saying in pink magic marker "Sorry, I am not a republican"
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:21 PM
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24. But AARP officials said many members do not understand the complex legisla
What's not to understand? When people are getting reamed they understand that the reamers are not being helpful.
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:35 PM
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25. Pre-emptive quit here
I'm 47, so it won't be too long before I start getting the inevitable invitations to join (ugh...).

If we can have pre-emptive war, we can certainly pre-emptively quit organizations that do not have their members' best interest at heart.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:50 PM
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26. I Sent Back Registration Card
w/ a nasty note -

oh I understand alright AARP, RX companies make out like bandits and old people get screwed
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #26
40. my partner
sent her "Join the AARP" packet back to them in tiny pieces and in their own No-Postage-Due envelope
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:36 PM
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27. What's Not To Understand?
The AARP makes 300 Million per year; half from insurance and half from the dues of the members to an insurance guy who thought of the concept.

Of course he's a Rethug; BushCo handed Novelli another large portion of the Medicare market to milk at what cost to my Grandmother?
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RBitt Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:50 PM
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29. This ends the argument
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 11:54 PM by RBitt
Chek this site out,

http://www.kaisernetwork.org/static/kncalc.cfm

plug in your annual drug cost & behold the amount of your benny. Start at $720.
Drug plan my ass.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #29
33. I would save a total of $62 a year
on my one prescription that costs $75.00 a month. Wow, $62 a year I'd save for the privilege of screwing up Medicare. If I can buy the medication in Canada I will save $520 a year!!!! Nice choice.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #33
46. excellent point -- becuase that is the issue AARP/Bush screwed
America and it's seniors -- why can't they negotiate like Canada does for it's people

We use 60% of all prescription drugs in the world....this is not complex --- they are taking adavantage of people
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:48 PM
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28. I quit too. Mr. Novelli is a corporatist greed pig and he sold us out.
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:36 AM
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30. I just don't get it
How any organization that sells insurance can also be an advocacy organization is beyond me!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 08:48 AM
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31. Just wait till
they start shilling for chimp's Social Security ruination plan.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 09:57 AM
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32. I turn 51 in two weeks...
...and WILL NOT join AARP, and will tell them why if asked. :mad:
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:00 PM
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35. good
I'm glad to hear it....My MOther though is still a tried and true member....she never believes in the evil they are doing to her. It's "just life", these things always happen.Shesh..get a clue mom.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 01:40 AM
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38. Both my husband and I quit
My parents quit, my older sister and her husband quit, and her mother-in-law quit, as did my 3 sister-in-laws and there husbands and my mother-in-law. 13 right there and I know more in my extended family quit.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:26 AM
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39. I resigned TWICE and they still won't take me off their mailing list
so this tell me that many more resigned than they are letting on. They will have to pry another penny from my cold dead hands.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:36 AM
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42. 45,000? More neocon lies.

Anyone else remember that within a week or two of the AARP coming out for support of the new medicare bill, aarp themselves said that between 200,000 and 300,000 had quit. This is just an attempt to marginalize those that dissagreed with the neocon shift in AARP.

As far as they're medigap insurance is concerned, it's no better or worse than any of the others out there. Combine that with the fact that when you buy theirs you contribute to the neocon cause. Enough said.
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:52 AM
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44. Count me and my husband . .
in the 45,000.

:hippie:
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:55 AM
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48. add me to the list
of those who kicked AARP to the curb. Stupid my ass, many of us seniors are old enough to recognize a sellout when we see one.
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