Pelosi: Don't overrule the voters

[Pirate Smile]

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Pelosi: Don't overrule the voters

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi -- who may be the most super delegate of all as chair of the Democratic national convention in Denver -- gave an interview with Bloomberg TV's Al Hunt in which she laid down the law for super delegates:

Don't veto the people's choice.
"I think there is a concern when the public speaks and there is a counter-decision made to that," she said, adding quickly, "I don't think that will happen."

-snip-
"I do think that they have a respect -- it's not just following the returns, it's also having a respect for what has been said by the people," Pelosi said. "It would be a problem for the party if the verdict would be something different than the public has decided."

That message will be music to the ears of Barack Obama, who's building a lead in pledged delegates and is urging the super delegates to follow the voters. He now leads 1,133 to 996 in pledged delegates, while Hillary Clinton has a 242-163 edge among super delegates, according to the latest tally by RealClearPolitics. Obama holds the overall edge, 1296-1238.

Pelosi had one more stunner in the interview: She said the Florida and Michigan delegates should not be seated if those delegates would decide the nomination.



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[Yael]

1. Pelosi: I'm up for reelection

[LiberalFighter]

8. That's right... she's up for re-election.

What did she say about the rule as a DNC member?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the rule. I do have a problem with the presidential preference nomination process. Primaries that are open allow anyone to vote without belonging to the Democratic Party. Primaries that are closed allow anyone to change their party registration so they can vote in a primary they generally don't.

I prefer that the nomination be conducted all by caucuses and require a minimum party involvement before being permitted access.

[Yael]

10. This is what she said the other day, which wasn't promising...

..." Pelosi also said the imbroglio over the primary isn’t the fault of Florida Democrats, who are the ones being sanctioned.

“Let’s be clear about what happened in Florida. The Republican legislature changed the date of the election there and also put a tax issue on the ballot that the Democrats just could not walk away from,” she said. “It wasn’t Florida Democrats who said they wanted to push earlier.”

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1567

[LiberalFighter]

19. I seem to recall that the Florida Democrats were complicit in changing the date

[jgraz]

2. "Just ignore them, like I do"

[Lorien]

24. Exactly what I thought when reading the thread title

I heard on NPR that she complained that the anti-war protesters in front of her home weren't homeless "because if they were homeless people, then I could have them arrested".

[Ano Genitus]

3. Oh, Plosi!

Speaker Plosi sounds like she's still kind of groggy from her sixteen-month nap. Oh, Plosi, Plosi.

[Phred42]

4. Pelosi & Reid are NOT Qualified for Leadership positions

Both must go just as sure as any republican in Washington, if we are going to save Democracy

[tripitaka]

13. harry & nancy prolly lost the Dems 1-3% of indy voters

Somewhere around there.

My father is a vet, he is strongly against this war and always has been.

But when the Dems funded the Surge, he registered as a Republican. To him, the Dems are throwing troops' lives away to avoid taking a political hit for defunding the war. But they do this knowing the Surge is going to take a while to have any effect, knowing that they will not fund the war past 2008.

He's hard for McCain now. I'm probably headed in that direction as well. I don't think we're the only 2. I never ever thought the war would drive me to the GOP, but that's what's happening. I simply cannot stomach the thought of the Democratic Party being in charge of this war, not after 2007.

If Obama really plans to end the war in 2008, he needs to stand up and be a man, and demand that Congress defund the war now, because otherwise, troops are dying in the Surge for absolutely no reason whatsoever. If Obama did that I would love to vote for him.

[spag68]

23. War funding

You really should study congressional action more before you blame the Dems. for all this shit. I want them to do those things also, however it's not that easy. Don't make this anything but bushes and Chaney's war.

[Phred42]

26. Reid & Pelosi are allowing this crap to continue.

It is fast becoming the Democrats problem and they damn-well had better understand that and deal with it!

[Beam Me Up]

5. "Off the table" Pelosi said that, hugh? n/t

[Wizard777]

6. "Impeachment is off the table!"

Lets hope they don't follow Nancy's shameful lead in vetoing the voters.

[From The Left]

7. Speaker Botox is Afraid the People Will Storm the Bastille

[Pirate Smile]

9. Wrong. She doesn't want the insiders to overturn the will of the people.

[anitar1]

11. What utter horsepuck she speaks. She certainly doesn't follow

the voters wishes. Just another useless politician. My personal rating of congress is a 4.

[superconnected]

16. Useless? Oh no. She protects the bush agenda.

Her campaign promise was to hold bush accountable and stop the war, instead she goes out of her way to not stop bush and fund the war.

She is bought and sold and belongs in prison for it.

[trthnd4jstc]

12. If the will of the People is to impeach the Monkey Boy....

If the will of the People is to impeach the Monkey Boy, and Lord Vader Pelosi will do what?

[superconnected]

14. Since when has SHE done the will of the people?

Step down, Ms. Pukey. We don't want you stopping the attempt to make the bush admistration accountable, anymore. We don't want your PUKE-some-ness helping Bush and Cheneys' anti-american agenda along further, we want you, MS VOMIT, to be thrown out on your ass and to be tried as a currupt politicians who has played the part of causing US soldier and iraqi deaths by sending money to keep an illegal war going.

[GOPNotForMe]

15. Wow, there's a lot of hostility here that isn't even related to this article at all.

Do y'all start frothing at the mouth as soon as you see her name in an article or do you actually read it?

[superconnected]

17. I froth when I see her name, reading her articles have been so

consistently back stabbing I don't bother anymore.

I want pukey to step down. I don't give a fuck about what her lying lips are saying now.

[Buns_of_Fire]

18. Should the voters give Obama a majority... and the superdelegates tip it to Clinton...

...or vice-versa... say hello to President McCain.

[emmadoggy]

20. Maybe Ms. Pelosi should stop and listen to herself and follow her own advice, hmm?

Oh, the irony.

[mysteryman2]

21. Cool

The most heavily populated cities went for Clinton, LA, NYC, and Miami. The three most heavily populated states.

[tabasco]

22. Well, that's not the whole country, is it?

What's your point?

[mysteryman2]

27. The point

The point no nothing states don't matter. And all the people live in big cities. The biggest land masses are Texas , California and Florida and maybe a few other contenders. The bigest populated city is LA Obama didn't win there.

A caucause is not an election either. I rather vote for McCain if Obama wins. I am Mexican. Race isn't a issue. But I doubt Obama will get the Latin Vote. And McCain has been in tight races before.

Iam not republican.

[Honeycombe8]

25. Good. This is what democracy is all about, after all. There is no threat that a Clinton people's .

There is no threat that a Clinton people's choice will be taken away. There is only the threat by the Clintons and their supporters that THEY will try to take away an Obama choice by the people.

That would be undemocratic and would mean an end to the Democratic Party for years to come, as millions would defect to the Republican Party and third parties.

It's very simple. If Clinton is chosen by the people, she should be the nominee. If Obama is chosen by the people, he should be the nominee.

It's very simple to deal with Michigan and Florida: That decision was made by the DNC months ago. Their delegates do not count. It is unfortunate, but that's the way that those states and the DNC decided to resolve their conflict. You don't change the rules 3/4th of the way through the campaign. To count them now, after the fact, favors the one(s) with name recognition (Clinton), and the ONLY purpose of counting those delegates now would be to intentionally favor Clinton. That is undemocratic.

[mysteryman2]

28. Cool

You wont get the Asian or Latin vote. Not just anybody can beat McCain. Everbody thought any democrat can beat Bush last time.. The republicans are good at switching the issues. What will you do if Bush does a shocker for his party to win the nomination. Like pull out of Iraq.

Isn't Obamas meassage a shoot off of Howard Dean anyway a anti war message. Change was to take place last time. From what I understand the Republicans want Obama. They know he doesn't have the Latin vote or Asian vote.

[LifeIsSweet]

29. I agree ~ Pelosi & Reid need to go - what a mess