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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:23 PM Original message |
Murdered 8th Grader Taken Off Life Support, Shooter, 14, To Be Tried As An Adult For Anti-Gay Hate |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good. He can spend the next 60 years of his life in jail |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. He is a KID a child. How quickly you call out that America jails children until the crime affects |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The woman who raised me was dragged from her car. . . |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I am so sorry for your loss. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Wow. I am crying as I write this. I am so sorry and I don't |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. I am really sorry, but they are kids and they need help not prison. |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. That's your opinion. . . |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Rehabilitation |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. A mistake? A MISTAKE? . . . |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Who was this kid? How many murders had he witnessed? What kind of a childhood did he have? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. I am sorry for your loss |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
69. No excuse. Old enough to kill (cold-hearted I might add), old enough to |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. I am so sorry for your loss. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Why The Parents????? |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Not the parents |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. "Indict the PARENTS for inciting Murder...hows that." |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Hows that? If you ask me, that's stupid. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. maybe it was the will of the "gang banga's" that a rival be done away with |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. It's pretty clear to me.. |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
51. OK, in the heat of the moment |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. Under the Common Law, Parents were NOT responsible for actions of their Children. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. If you are old enough to do the crime, you can do the time |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Would you try a 7-year old who brought a gun to school and shot someone |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. All the above. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Should society be protected from shooters who are 7, 10 otr 12 years old? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #53 |
80. No sense in trying to reason with most Americans about guns or juvenile crime |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. The killer's innocence was lost the second he even thought about |
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Matteon (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. No child of 14 should ever be tried as an adult. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The two killers from the Jonesboro Arkansas Jr.High massacre are out orf prison now |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. dunno know about that |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
68. At 14 you are not an innocent child |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
78. Under the common law, age 14 was the age of "Reason". |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. It certainly doesn't sound like this kid is redeemable at all |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. So, so tragic. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. I dunno.... |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. and hate radio 24/7 |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:39 PM Original message |
Oops a dupe. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Goddamn Goddamn Goddamn, this poor baby had such a sad sad life |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. How are our kids learning to kill what they hate? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. a better question is how are they learning to hate? |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. I think it's time for parents to start paying attention |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
52. I'm not sure that that's gay bashing |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #52 |
67. It sure is gay bashing |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. I completely agree there |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. They're not just silly things -- they should be called on it |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. we can not judge children the same way we do adults |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I'm not saying to teach them by rote |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Um...maybe the shining example our government sets? |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. My question was rhetorical. |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's not just the kid who pulled the trigger |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Until we Know For Sure |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. "It takes a village to raise a child" |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. I agree with you. But in our society, the parents and the community are never even INVESTIGATED. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. god speed lawrence |
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GOPNotForMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. Utterly tragic. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. Where did the kid get the handgun? |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. Violent results from a violent society. nt |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. . |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. So Tragic, All Around for Everybody |
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LifeIsSweet (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. I'm a single Gay father |
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mattfromnossa (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. It is very sad |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
27. Only a seriously deranged person shoots another in the head in cold blood. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. Adults put guns in the hands of kids to prove anyone can murder. ADULTS! |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
71. And sometimes.. no all the time, a person is RESPONSIBLE for THEIR OWN ACTIONS! |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. If not the murderer is not institutionalized, he needs to do his time in solitary. |
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littlebit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
33. Personally |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. Again, how did the shooter obtain his gun and ammo? |
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LifeIsSweet (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I would bet it was |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. If we lived in any kind of just society, the PARENTS of the shooter would be under investigation |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. Anyone want to still say we don't need hate crimes in America? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. I saw one of the adults on the school |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. I've devoted my professional life to teenagers |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. There is no good choices here |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. I will never believe that any child should be treated like an adult. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. I don't know HOW to do this |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. Do they HAVE to call it "organ HARVESTING?" |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Good thought but it sounds like he didn't really have a family |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. A couple thoughts: |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. So they're compounding a tragedy with another tragedy? |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. I concur, and furthermore.... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
66. Kick. |
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