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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:00 PM Original message |
More people tap 401(k) accounts for cash |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. More people are tapping their 401(k) for cash |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. This is one reason why I'm thinking the stock market will not be headed up anytime |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. This will be the next phase of the credit crisis. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. The man is a fool and now has to pay the piper. Boo fuckin hoo. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. i agree with you. my ex-brother-in-law |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. And he *leased*, not bought the BMW. Can you say stoopid?? |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. It's like they deliberately found the least-sympathetic example possible... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. They often do in this sort of story. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. No, This IS The Story |
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lancer78 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. With leasing |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Fools like this are the pillar of the American dream (tm) |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Oh so you're a slumlord too... Alright... |
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4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Well said.... |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. back when I worked on bankruptcies... |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. Maybe they setting folks up for this ... |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. There's also a card that taps your home equity |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. 40 years old and only $20k saved for retirement? |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That hit me too. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. At 40 I did not have 20K saved... |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. The foolishness for some was in chosing a career in back-office IT. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. oops...make that $10K, now. but i'll bet he still has more saved than the vast majority at that age. |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. How long until the guvmint removes that 10% penalty? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. cutting to the chase... he and his wife spend more monthly than they take in |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Well said. This trend is giving rise to ersatz populism. |
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GOPNotForMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
10. This is a looming disaster. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Exactly how do you stop people from being incredibly foolish with their money? |
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GOPNotForMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Never said you could stop it. |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Good attitude there Stan. You should get a job at an Alzheimer's facility. You'd make a killing. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. Don't privatized social security accounts sound scrumptious? |
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GOPNotForMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Took the words right out of my mouth. |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. He had "little choice." Oh. OK, then. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
22. "may have to rely on an overburdened Social Security system" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
23. probably no biggie.. a 40 yr old with only 20K?? that's not much to start with |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. My net worth hit $0 at age 40 |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. I had a little over 20,000 at 32 in 2000 |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
25. That is so stupid... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. Kick, and Rec. This is the next shell game to crumble. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. I'm waiting for the day |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. Bummer dude. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. we had to close out the 401(k) to get healthcare |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. And I know people who had to tap out their 401ks because |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Out of work for over a year |
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khaos (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
39. he should have withdrew it all.. 401Ks are junk |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Junk? |
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khaos (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. you hope you will.. keep your eye on the value of the dollar |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. "Keep your eye on the value of the dollar" |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I will be better off than those that save nothing. |
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khaos (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. good call on the gold |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. this is what I am afraid of.... |
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