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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:57 PM
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Breaking: Obama Campaign Urges Clinton to Concede
Source: Guardian

Obama campaign urges Clinton to concede

Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington guardian.co.uk, Wednesday February 20 2008 Article history · Contact us Contact usClose Report errors or inaccuracies: userhelp@guardian.co.uk Letters for publication should be sent to: letters@guardian.co.uk If you need help using the site: userhelp@guardian.co.uk Call the main Guardian and Observer switchboard:
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Advertising guide License/buy our content About this articleClose This article was first published on guardian.co.uk on Wednesday February 20 2008. It was last updated at 19:21 on February 20 2008.Barack Obama's campaign, riding a wave of 10 straight victories in the contest for the Democratic nomination after wins in Wisconsin and Hawaii, today urged Hillary Clinton to bow to the inevitable and accept defeat.

Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, dismissed her camp's hopes of making a comeback when the power states of Texas and Ohio hold their primaries on March 4, and said Clinton would be unable to bridge a widening gap in delegates.

"This is a wide, wide lead right now," Plouffe said in a conference call with reporters. "The Clinton campaign keeps saying the race is essentially tied. That's just lunacy."


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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/20/uselections2008.usa1
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:59 PM
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1. that's what the UK say?
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:00 PM
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2. That is the ONLY source reporting that story.
Somehow if this had been said in today's conference call with reporters, I'd have to imagine it'd be getting a touch more play than this.

One UK news outlet. Total.

I'm not buying it.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:00 PM
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3. not smart
Look what happened to Edwards when he said it was a 2-person race :rofl:
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TAWS Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:01 PM
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4. Misleading Article
No where does it mention his campaign asked her to concede
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:57 PM
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11. Exactly. It says they are not tied.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:03 PM
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5. If this is true
then the repuke machine will be jumping for joy. They want the Clintons gone asap. If she goes, then all they have to do is dig up dirt on Obama (lies of course) and Mccain is a shoe in.

Left of Cool
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:06 PM
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6. Lefty, it's shoo-in.
Common mistake.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:28 PM
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9. LOL!
I saw that after I hit the send button.

Lefty
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:39 PM
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14. Repukes want the Clintons IN. They've been planning to run against her for 8 yrs
Their think tanks haven't had as much time to be able to try to defeat Obama.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:07 AM
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18. 8 years?
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:08 AM by aquart
Provide evidence from eight years ago. What a steaming platter of pasture pastry.

You're side is winning and yet it still keeps lying. Gonna be a fun four years. Not unlike the last 8.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:52 AM
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21. Pasture pastry?
OMG!

:rofl:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:09 PM
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7. Guardian's headline doesn't match what Plouffe has said
No other media story is reporting it this way...

Washington Post: "He didn't come out and say it, but Sen. Barack Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, came close this morning to asking Hillary Rodham Clinton to drop out of the race.

By Plouffe's count, Obama's wins yesterday in Wisconsin and Hawaii gave him a 159-delegate lead among pledged delegates, a margin he sees as insurmountable in the Democrats' proportional delegate system. To catch up, Clinton would have to win the March 4 primaries in Ohio and Texas by 30-point blowouts, followed by a 40-point blowout in Pennsylvania.

"This is a wide, wide lead right now," Plouffe insisted. "The Clinton campaign keeps saying the race is essentially tied. That's just lunacy."" http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/20/obama_team_sees_wide_lead_over.html


AFP: "We have opened up a big and meaningful pledged delegate lead. They are going to have to win landslides from here on out to erase it," he said." http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5he42NieCba75dPjOIqeczmh44_WA

Baltimore Sun: "AUSTIN, Texas – Sen. Barack Obama's campaign manager said today it will take double-digit wins in Texas and Ohio for Sen. Hillary Clinton to gain any significant ground in the battle for pledged delegates.

"They probably need to win both of these states by over 20 points," said David Plouffe, speaking to reporters the morning after a sizable primary win in Wisconsin for Obama.

Following wins in Wisconsin and Hawaii on Tuesday, Plouffe said Obama now holds a 159 pledged-delegate lead. "They are going to have to win landslides from here on in to erase it," he said." http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_campaign_says_clinton_wo.html
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:12 PM
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8. No direct quote saying that cited.
This article appears to be crap.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:45 PM
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10. That's what I thought last night. If she can't win she will rely on the super delegates to vote
against the will of the people. That would be a bad thing I think. She could drop out and not let that scenario happen.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:19 PM
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12. What's up with our friends...
across the pond? From that one quote they really piled it on. No harm, no foul if people bother to read the article...but that's probably not very likely.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:25 PM
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13. Maybe Edwards can settle this thing by endorsing Obama.
Because if he waits much longer, no one is going to care.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:49 PM
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15. I don't care now.
If he chooses to endorse Mr. Obama or Ms. Clinton is besides the point, in my opinion.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:09 AM
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19. What does he win if he does?
God's approval?

My god, you grudge every vote, every hint of dissent. Gonna be a real democratic government under the Obama people.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:17 PM
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16. The only unknown left is how Obama will hold up
now that the right wing media assault is in gear and the the MSM honeymoon might end. He'd have to be destroyed in the next couple of weeks. Many will be out to get Obama.

I was listening to NPR today and they said in Texas voters are actually being asked to vote twice. Texas has both a primary and a caucus on the same day.

About 2/3 of the delegates are chosen during the primary. Delegates are awarded by district and almost every district has four delegates. They split 2 each unless one candidate gets over 62%. The other districts that have more than 4 delegates are prime Obama country.

That evening a caucus is held where about 1/3 of the delegates are chosen. Hillary would have to get massive majorities of voters to vote for her twice. With caucuses she's had trouble getting voters to vote once. All the enthusiasm is with Obama.

She needs a miracle just to win Texas and she has to win by huge numbers. The only way that can happen is a sudden Obama collapse. Otherwise its all over. Even Bill said so today.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:24 AM
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17. Better if they drag the race out for as long as possible
That would give the right-wing media less time to focus its attacks.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:40 AM
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20. Uh, how long did it take the U.K. to toss out Blair?
Exactly.

STFU, Britain
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