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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:22 PM
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Mexican leftists vow to blockade airports, highways if oil opened to private investment
Source: AP

MEXICO CITY (AP) - Thousands of followers of a former leftist presidential candidate vowed on Sunday to close highways, airports and government buildings across Mexico if the legislature opens the country's state oil industry to private investment.

Chanting «The country should to be defended, not sold,» the demonstrators raised their hands and bellowed «Yes!» when asked if they would participate in blockades and a possible general strike against reforms to open the industry.

«The theft of the oil industry would leave open the risk of a violent confrontation, which would bring us more suffering, political and social instability,» said their leader, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

Any government proposal for strategic alliances or investment in state-owned Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, would be considered privatization and trigger massive protests, he said.

Read more: http://www.pr-inside.com/mexican-leftists-vow-to-blockade-airports-r453966.htm
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:43 PM
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1. I hope they succeed. Mexico neglects its citizens and more priviatization
means more poverty. Mexico's oil industry in unionized and privatization means an end to that.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:52 PM
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2. pemex is already on its last legs

mexico's pemex is in desperate need of funds....it has to modernize, it is rusting, delapidated....the gov't doesn't have enuf money to make the investments

pemex is not only about to come to a grinding halt, it's also about to run out of oil.....

mexico, a leading OPEC nation, is about to run out of oil...no joke, the ny times reported at length on this many months ago

with funding, pemex could undertake R & D and access new oil fields in the gulf

without massive funding, pemex will be out of oil and rusted into oblivion
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:17 PM
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3. Meanwhile, Donald Rumsfeld is planning Oil War II: South America
"The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez," by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html

This is a matter that goes way beyond the privatization of Mexico's oil, and the impact of that on union labor and on Mexico's sovereignty, as important as those issues are. Rumsfeld & co. have been denied easy pickins of Mideast oil, with the civil war in Iraq and China's and Russia's (and possibly the U.S. military) blockade of their plans to selectively nuke Iran. They are desperate for more oil, and the ungodly wealth and power it brings them, so they are now looking at South America, and the rich oil fields in the Andes region that are now controlled by leftist democracies, which believe in using a country's resources to help the people who live there. Rumsfeld calls for economic warfare against Venezuela--the strongest leader of the Bolivarian democracies--and Exxon Mobil has answered that call, recently, by seeking to freeze $12 billion of Venezuela's assets, in a dispute over Venezuela's 60% share of its own oil (--a deal that Norway's Statoil, France's Total, British BP, Conoco and even Chevron consider reasonable).

I believe Exxon Mobil's purpose is not to recover the $1.2 billion that it thinks the Venezuelan poor owe them, but rather destabilization and weakening of Venezuela--a la Rumsfeld's war plan--preparatory to a preliminary move, probably first against Bolivia, with the ultimate goal of controlling ALL the oil and other resources of the Andes region, and reinstallation of rightwing/fascist regimes that will serve global corporate predator interests--in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Argentina, especially. Venezuela and Ecuador have lots and lots oil and are members of OPEC. Argentina is their close ally, and also there was a recent big oil find in Argentina, making Argentina a resource war target as well.

Bolivia has some oil, and mostly gas reserves. These are concentrated in Bolivia's rural provinces, where the rich landowners have started a separatist movement--no doubt abetted by Bush/U.S. money and other support--to split the resource-rich rural provinces off the central government of Evo Morales, the first indigenous president of Bolivia (a big majority indigenous country), and a Chavez ally, to deny benefit of the oil/gas resource to the vast poor indigenous population in the urban areas.

Bolivia is less further along in the reform process than Venezuela is, and is less stable. The Bush Junta has been trying to topple the elected government of Hugo Chavez at least since 2002, when they supported a violent rightwing military coup attempt, and they have failed every time. Chavez was re-elected, in highly transparent elections, with 63% of the vote in 2006, and enjoys a 70% approval rating. Evo Morales also has high approval numbers, but hasn't been able, yet, to achieve constitutional reform against a very entrenched and corrupt rightwing elite. The rightwing is using the separatist movement to sabotage the constitutional assemblies, and to retard reform as long as possible. There has been a lot of rightwing violence in Bolivia. The rich rural landowners have militias and kill and intimidate poor indigenous farmers who attempt political or union organization. That's why so many have fled to the cities. And Bolivia's ruling elite has a very ugly history of racism. As Judi Lynn has pointed out, as late as the 1950s, the indigenous were not permitted to walk on the sidewalks. And the rightwing elite imported white South Africans to try to boost their numbers.

Fallow ground to the likes of Rumsfeld. Encourage racial hatred and greed. Provide funds and guns. Get things stirred up. And if Evo Morales reacts to hold the country together, have this rightwing faction declare its "independence" and ask for U.S. support. Maybe even draw Chavez and Venezuela into the fray, in defense of Bolivia and the Morales government. Create chaos. Grab the resources. And plot further hostilities, from this new rightwing enclave in the heart of the Bolivarian revolution.

I think we had better be prepared for something along these lines--major trouble stirred up, led and funded by the Bush Junta in South America, and even U.S. military intervention. Rumsfeld urges "swift" U.S. action in support of "friends and allies" in South America. Whatever can he mean, except support of fascist thugs planning coups?

As for Mexico, I do think that the Bushites had a hand in the stolen Mexican presidential election, which leftist Lopez Obrador lost by a hair (0.05%). The trend in Latin America is overwhelmingly leftist (majorityist). Leftist governments have been elected in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and Nicaragua, and we will likely see another one, Paraguay, this year, and Guatemala elected its first progressive government, ever, this year (not leftist, but a big improvement). Most of these governments are strongly allied with each other, due in no small part to Chavez's leadership. It is only a matter of time before Mexico's overwhelmingly poor and leftist population achieves the grass roots organization to prevent election theft. Most of Latin American has achieved this--transparent elections. And the main reason for the Bushite election theft in Mexico is, of course, to control the oil. (A related reason is the militarization of Mexico, and support of its fascist elite, through the "war on drugs" boondoggle--Darth Vader cops and weapons to suppress social movements like Lopez Obrador's, and like the year-long revolt in Oaxaca led by the teachers' union that was stomped on by the federal police, just after Calderon was (s)elected.)

Mexicans have gotten an extremely raw deal from "free trade" and Bush Junta interference. Millions of small farmers have lost their land, and can't feed their families or communities, and have migrated to the cities and shantytown squalor. We see the same pattern all over Latin America. And it is the heart of the illegal immigration "problem." Global corporate predators have devastated these countries, and have impoverished multi-millions. And corn biofuel production is now raising the price of corn tortillas, a basic food. The situation is very volatile, and if Mexicans can't count on some sort of help from their oil profits--if those are sold away by the Calderon government--we may well see another bloody revolution in Mexico. Mexico's oil profits--like Venezuela's, Bolivia's, Ecuador's and Argentina's--should rightfully be used to bootstrap this vast poor population. This is simple justice. Exxon Mobil and Donald Rumsfeld making more ungodly profit is something akin to pure evil, in this situation. They are almost literally taking the food out of the mouths of starving babies, in their efforts to deprive these countries of one of their few resources, by violence, by stealth, by coup, by election theft, by kneecapping and bribery, by economic warfare, and/or by outright war.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:41 AM
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5. no
your blurb vastly oversimplifies complex situations

doubt that bush is after mexico's oil

by the way, oil is squandered in mexico.....absolutely squandered

and its oil reserves are almost depleted....

don't think bush had zip to do with obrador, who is a real loser

doubt there will be a revolution in mexico

its middle class has grown considerably in the past several years....and mexicans are terrified of another revolution

the situation there is not at all very volatile

i've lived there, and just spent time there...
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:01 AM
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7. poverty in Mexico is about 50% and crime rates are high
75% of poor Mexicans own a home that's what you may confuse with a middle class, real state prices have been affordable for years.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:37 AM
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8. that's not what i mean
by middle class

and the crime rate is vastly exaggerated in the media, and very localized

when were you last there? what econ stats did you study? what mexican newspapers do you regularly read?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:41 PM
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14. When Mexicans get kidnap and get their ears or fingers taken off
there is no excuse to justified crime rates, wouldn't localized crime be more easy to control? they are using the army to fight drug lords.

for news check www.google.com.mx here are some

http://www.proceso.com.mx/noticia.html?sec=0&nta=57195

http://www.sanangelolive.com/node/491

http://www.lagacetaonline.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=375&Itemid=49



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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:01 AM
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10. About your points...
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 04:06 AM by Peace Patriot
your blurb vastly oversimplifies complex situations - which situations? how?

doubt that bush is after mexico's oil - the Bush Junta's lust for oil is insatiable - why not Mexico's? "war on drugs" boondoggle and "free trade" also motivate them.

by the way, oil is squandered in mexico.....absolutely squandered -so what? it is here, too. Exxon Mobil gets richer (heh, heh).

and its oil reserves are almost depleted.... - Bushites scrounging Alaska wildlife refuge for oil - they're very thirsty - oil drives global corporate piracy ("free trade") and war.

don't think bush had zip to do with obrador, who is a real loser - obrador lost by only half a percent - 0.05% - that's quite a lot of votes for a "loser" - Bush Junta and rightwing elite had boffo motives to steal it - they don't want any Bolivarian revolution right on the U.S. border, showing us all what social justice looks like.

doubt there will be a revolution in mexico - yeah? tortilla goes any higher - kaboom!

its middle class has grown considerably in the past several years....and mexicans are terrified of another revolution - most sane people are terrified of a revolution, or rather a violent revolution, but you push people hard enough -kaboom - serious rich/poor divide there, as is developing here - and when the Bush Shit hits the fan, middle class will lead the revolution.

the situation there is not at all very volatile- 1. Oaxaca 2. fisticuffs in the legislature 3. would have been a revolution over Obrador loss, except Obrador stopped it (and I think he was right - peaceful is the way to go - just work on grass roots monitoring of elections).

i've lived there, and just spent time there...- I haven't been there recently, but have Mexican-Amer. relatives and I'm a native Californian - and you don't have to visit Iraq to know the place is disaster area, nor visit France to know they hate GMO foods, nor visit Venezuela to know that the lives of the poor have been vastly improved, etc., etc. - there is something called study and research and also simpatico - not just studying official sources and corporate news - have you read "The People Decide: Oaxaca's Popular Assembly," by Nancy Davies, for instance? - a lot happening in southern Mexico.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:45 AM
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6. I agree (n/t)!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:02 AM
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11.  DU'ers were amazed, sitting right in front of their screens on election night,
watching the returns as it was looking like Lopez Obrador was going to win, only to note, around the time most people had gone to sleep, there was a FLURRY of pro-Calderon votes, of a scale, and proportion not anywhere in evidence earler.

Also, you recall the vicious media campaign which came from out of nowhere, when the entire direction of Calderon's messages turned to comparing Lopez Obrador to Hugo Chavez (actually, misrepresenting Hugo Chavez FIRST, and then comparing AMLO to their bogus Hugo Chavez image) and, as you mentioned, insisting he was dangerous for Mexico.

The really sleazy part was the debacle DU'ers were watching through the night as the votes completely veered away from the earlier pattern, and exploded. It was exactly as if they believed there were enough sleeping people, no one would find out until it was really way too late.

You also recall the stories which still made it out of the ballot box stuffing, some carried out in full view of ordinary citizens. There were far more than enough of these stories to get anyone's attention, and they most surely should have.

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Concerning your excellent eye on Bolivia, I have one thing to add which fits exactly with what you've been writing. This concerns the fact Rumsfeld had some missiles removed from their arsenal once it looked like a LOCK for Evo Morales in the coming election. Rumsfeld got in there, made arrangements with officers in the military, and they took out some missiles only a short time before Evo Morales would become the President. They bypassed dealing with the new President altogether, but waited until it looked inevitable that Bolivians would be electing a President our right-wing wouldn't like. Here's one article which should help:
US Denies Removal of Bolivian Missiles Was Secret by David Gollust
Article Posted: 12/23/2005

US Denies Removal of Bolivian Missiles Was Secret



The United States denied Thursday that it removed anti-aircraft missiles from Bolivia without the knowledge of top officials in La Paz. The State Department says the operation was at the request of Bolivian authorities and in line with an Organization of American States resolution.

Officials here acknowledge that the United States removed a small number of MANPADS, man-portable air defense system, from Bolivia earlier this year as part of a broader effort to keep the shoulder launch missiles out of the hands of terrorists.

But they are denying charges from Bolivia, which figured in that country's presidential election campaign, that the operation was conducted without the knowledge of senior Bolivian officials.

Bolivian President-elect Evo Morales, the victor in last Sunday's election, has alleged that the 28 Chinese-made missiles were spirited out of the country in June in an operation he described as international intervention.

He says he will press for an investigation of the affair and is quoted as saying he would punish those responsible and evict U.S. military advisers from the country.

Questioned about the issue here, State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack said U.S. officials had worked with the Bolivian government on the removal of a small quantity of missiles he said were in a deteriorating condition.

More:
http://www.amazines.com/article_detail.cfm/74308?articleid=74308
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:39 AM
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4. Pemex has been a disaster for years and the vultures are just waiting their turn
seems like plan Merida it's giving some fruits.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:43 AM
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9. What better way to steer a country toward privatization than to thrust a politician serving U.S.
business interests into the Presidency, and to have his administration repeatedly make decisions which deteriorate the economy, at the same time shilling for privatization.

They don't have to do a thing: just refuse to help, and it all falls in on itself, at which point their allies outside the country are ready to step in to "help" Mexico.

God knows its been done to death ALREADY, in other countries. Remember Nixon's admonition to Richard Helms to "make the economy scream" as they started their prep work for the overthrow of Salvador Allende, a complex attack on their economy which eventually had trucks refusing to move through a truckers' strike, then ships lined up offshore, unable to deliver goods, and a massive food shortage on land, and a complete catastrophe, after which, once Allende was out of the way, they got to work fixing things up along lines fashioned right here in the U.S. by Milton Friedman, all the while using their own news media to tell the Chilean public how they were to see events, as Nixon, through the C.I.A., loaded millions and millions of U.S. taxpayers' dollars into the properties of media owner Austin Edwards, owner of Chile's largest newspaper, and radio stations, etc., and he bent the news first, to ridicule and attack Allende, then, after he was dead, to laud, and celebrate, promote Augusto Pinochet throughout the length of his political career.

(By the way, both Augustin Edwards, and his slimy son both run news media in Latin America now, and also participate in news organizations in the U.S. He made out very profitably becoming a propagandist of the highest order for the American right-wing.)
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:23 PM
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16. Mexico's "friends" have been hinting for years to open their natural resources to multinationals
On this 2004 article they hint to privatize Pemex after finding new oil deposits in the gulf of Mexico.

Published on 9 Sep 2004.

Mexico's Pemex in a corner after oil find boast
MEXICO CITY - A boast by Mexico's Pemex that it may have spotted new deposits big enough to double its oil reserves has put fresh pressure on the state energy monopoly to finalize joint ventures needed to access the deposits.

Without a deal with an oil major willing to share its deep-water drilling technology, any new deposits will remain out of reach, and so will Pemex's claim last week that it could hike output to rival Middle Eastern oil giants.

And with the opposition-dominated Congress likely to block any fresh attempt by the government to axe a law against foreign companies extracting Mexican oil, analysts say Pemex's boast was painfully premature.

"You don't have anything unless you have a drill bit," said analyst George Baker at U.S. consultancy Mexico Energy Intelligence, after Pemex Exploration and Production head Luis Ramirez said unconfirmed deep-sea reserves could amount to a colossal 54 billion barrels of crude oil equivalent.

"You can't show there's a barrel of oil there unless you drill for it. And Pemex can't do that without associates. The expertise (for deep-water drilling) is not for rent," Baker said.

http://www.energybulletin.net/2028.html


And here is another discovery: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4808466.stm

This one http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/06/business/worldbusiness/06oil.html?ex=1315195200&en=aedad2b99f228e40&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc maybe related to this other article:


Brazil’s government owned oil and gas corporation Petrobras has invited Mexico's oil monopoly Pemex to join it as a minority partner in a deep water exploration project on the US side of the Gulf of Mexico revealed Samir Awad Petrobras executive manager for the Americas, Africa and Eurasia.
http://www.mercopress.com/vernoticia.do?id=12650&formato=html



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:29 AM
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12. As Mexico's oil reserves drop, Calderon thinks the unthinkable
Feb. 16, 2008, 11:24PM
As Mexico's oil reserves drop, Calderon thinks the unthinkable
But his idea of seeking foreign know-how, private funds irks rivals

By DUDLEY ALTHAUS
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle Mexico City Bureau

MEXICO CITY — The political showdown over the future of Pemex, the Mexican government's crucial oil monopoly, appears to loom at last.

At stake, people on both sides of the clash say, is the viability of Mexico's petroleum industry, which ranks as the third-largest source of imported U.S. oil and supplies nearly 40 percent of the Mexican government's budget.

Pemex — which exports about 1.4 million barrels of crude a day to the United States, most of it through Houston and its environs — has acknowledged that its oil production and reserves are dropping fast.

Many across the political spectrum here agree something must be done, and quickly, to reverse the tide, but the showdown isn't expected to come for several months. The argument involves whether to invite in American and other foreign oil companies, which have the advanced technology and resources to find more petroleum, and on what terms to do so.

Critics contend that, regardless of what they're saying publicly, President Felipe Calderon and his allies intend to privatize all or part of Pemex, which since its founding nearly 68 years ago has been both a patriotic symbol and a cash cow for the Mexican government.

More:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5548011.html
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:50 AM
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13.  Mexican leftists threaten strike over oil privatisation
Mexican leftists threaten strike over oil privatisation
25 Feb 2008, 0250 hrs IST,AFP

MEXICO CITY: Thousands of followers of a former leftist presidential candidate vowed on Sunday to close highways, airports and government buildings across Mexico if the legislature opens the country's state oil industry to private investment.
(snip)

Any government proposal for strategic alliances or investment in state-owned Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, would be considered privatization and trigger massive protests, he said.

No such proposal has yet been submitted, but the administration of conservative President Felipe Calderon has suggested legal reforms are needed because private capital and technical expertise could help Mexico explore deep-water oil fields and reverse the current decline in production.

But according to Lopez Obrador, "it is a lie that we lack money or technology to modernize the oil industry." He argued that Mexican experts are capable of exploring deep waters in the Gulf of Mexico, where more oil is thought to lie, without foreign or private assistance.

More:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Mexican_leftists_threaten_strike_over_oil_privatisation/articleshow/2810736.cms



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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:50 PM
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15. they also went to the streets when their election was stolen
too bad americans don't care as much about our country.
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