Roy hopes Saddam's fate for Bush

[54anickel]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow/430573.cms

BOMBAY: Writer Arundhati Roy, who wants an ongoing anti-globalisation conference to launch a campaign to shut down US companies, said Sunday she hoped President George W Bush would share the fate of the captured Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

"If Saddam Hussein deserves to be humiliated and have his fillings counted and his hair checked for lice on primetime TV, then so does George Bush," Roy told about 100 people at a leftist convention on the sidelines of the World Social Forum.

"Saddam Hussein surely ought to be tried for crimes against humanity. But so should all his accomplices in the US and Europe," she said.

"To applaud the US army's capture of Saddam Hussein and therefore justify its invasion and occupation of Iraq is like deifying Jack the Ripper for disembowelling the Boston Strangler," Roy said.

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Related story on the The World Social Forum
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/01/18/2003091838

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The first three World Social Forums were held since 2001 in the Brazilian leftist stronghold Porto Alegre, where last year the meet began a staging ground for protests against the imminent war in Iraq.

Jeremy Corbyn, an MP in Britain's ruling Labour Party who opposed the war in Iraq, tempered the anti-US tone by saying, "We are not against the American people. We stand with those who are fighting for peace."

Organizers say 1,000 Americans are among the 78,000 people who registered by the eve of the World Social Forum. Another 22,000 signed up on the last day but it was impossible to know exactly how many people were attending, forum spokesman Gautam Mody said.

[JohnyCanuck]

1. Come on Arundhati, tell us how you really feel.

I doubt we'd ever see pictures of Dubya humiliated like Saddam, but I keep hoping that at least we'll see him in some handcuffs and perhaps some orange coveralls.

[54anickel]

3. She's got her sites set on Betchel and Hellaburning

Betchel by name in the first article, both inferred to in the second.

[NeoConsSuck]

2. I wish him the same fate also...

and that also goes for the rest of his Neocon buddies.

[many a good man]

15. It could happen

Check out this future news report: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DBY312A.html

[RandomKoolzip]

4. Flame me all you want, but....

Was Saddam really "humiliated" that much by getting a physical exam on TV? And as much as I loathe the Goofy Boy King, Saddam WAS a brutal dictator; Bush hasn't hit that level of despotism yet....I'd like to see him removed (and the entire administration) before he competes with Saddam in the butchery department.

[pippin]

7. let's see if you know your history . . . .

this is a test:

1.Who made Sadam by helping him and the Baathist come into and stay in power?

2 Who supported Sadam's burtality that led to the well publicised revelation about "mass graves"?


3. Who supplied(and therefore would know about the fact) Sadam with nerve gas and other so called weapons of mass destruction?

4. How many prisoners were executed while George Bush was governor of Texas?

5. How many Americans have died within the last six months in a war whose justifications have yet to be rectified?

6. How many people died in the 911 attacke which as it now happens amy well have been prevented so as to get a political boost?

7. Which upper crust matriarch said "why should I bother my beautiful mind" when confronted about the numbers of Americans(below stairs riff raff obviously) being sacrificed in Iraq?

8. Whose regime in America would enable search, arrest and incarceration with little or no due process?

9. Which country oversees incarceration in a camp without due process and whose camps include children?

10. Which country has two sets of laws: one for the rich and priviliged and one--more punitive--for the working classes?

Now if you answer all these correctly you should get a pretty good picture of not only what it takes to be a "brutal dictator" but what despotism actually involves beyond the obvious slaughter.

[RandomKoolzip]

11. Guys, believe me, I know all that stuff.

I know all about the Reagan administration's propping up of Saddam. And Bush fucking disgusts me, and his policies have led to many innocent lives lost. I wouldn't be on this board if I thought Bush was a groovy guy. He's an incompetent in charge of a gang of cutthroats.

However, I'd like to see Bush taken down by impeachment, or voted out. I don't think he's hit Saddam's level yet, but he's getting there unless we stop him.

[JohnyCanuck]

8. On the other hand........

Saddam WAS a brutal dictator; Bush hasn't hit that level of despotism yet....

Shrub just tells lies to start an unnecessary and illegal war in order to get the ball rolling on his neo-con advisers PNAC plans for a global empire (which will coincidentally be also very profitable to Shrubs business elite financial backer). This results in between 7,968 to 9,801 Iraqi civilians killed (as per www.iraqibodycount.org ) plus god only knows how many maimed and wounded as well (not to mention the thousands of Iraqi military personnel killed and wounded, many of whom were young conscripts without much choice as to whether they took part or not).

As far as I am concerned I wouldn't mind seeing Shrub get exactly the same treatment as Saddam on prime time TV but with the addition of a rectal, body cavity search as well.

[RandomKoolzip]

13. I would NOT want to see a rectal cavity search done on *!

I mean, I don't want to see what's up his ass, because I already know: His head.

[many a good man]

16. Yes he was humiliated

And it probably was another violation of the Geneva convention.

[reprobate]

5. Let's not forget one important point.

Saddam was not captured by american forces. He was captured by the kurds, drugged, and left for the american forces to find, with instructions.

Let's give credit where due, and not enhance the illusion of omnipotence.

[Muddleoftheroad]

6. "We are not against the American people"

Sure could have fooled me:

"Writer Arundhati Roy, who wants an ongoing anti-globalisation conference to launch a campaign to shut down US companies."

[RandomKoolzip]

10. For "US companies," read: "Heartless multinationals like

Halliburton and Bechtel."

What you're seeing there is another example of spin in the press: Instead of explaining Roy's campaign in terms that are accurate, they just say "US companies...." Well, who is in favor of shutting down "US companies?" Not me, certainly; I'm a capitalist, too. But I AM all in favor of Halliburton crumbling, beacuse they are too powerful and oppressive, and discourage any competition...who can compete with multinationals of that size?

[JohnyCanuck]

12. US companies are fucking over Americans too,

or hadn't you noticed?


Wal-Mart and the Waltons got to the top the old-fashioned way--by roughing people up. The corporate ethos emanating from the Bentonville headquarters dictates two guiding principles for all managers: Extract the very last penny possible from human toil, and squeeze the last dime from every supplier.

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Yes, there is the happy-faced "greeter" who welcomes shoppers into every store, and employees (or "associates," as the company grandiosely calls them) gather just before opening each morning for a pep rally, where they are all required to join in the Wal-Mart cheer: "Gimme a 'W!'" shouts the cheerleader; "W!" the dutiful employees respond. "Gimme an A!'" And so on.

Behind this manufactured cheerfulness, however, is the fact that the average employee makes only $15,000 a year for full-time work. Most are denied even this poverty income, for they're held to part-time work. While the company brags that 70 percent of its workers are full-time, at Wal-Mart "full time" is 28 hours a week, meaning they gross less than $11,000 a year.

Health-care benefits? Only if you've been there two years; then the plan hits you with such huge premiums that few can afford it--only 38 percent of Wal-Marters are covered.

http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2002-05-08/news.html

[leesa]

14. Are the American people US companies? Are you going to

pretend that US corporations aren't responsible for most of the strife in developing countries around the world?

[TankLV]

17. Again, I'm not surprised by your comments.

Right on schedule.

[bvar22]

9. Shut down those American Corporations....

...that are engaged in unrestrained pillaging of the Planet. I agree with her.