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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:01 PM
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White House wants more oil; investment not seen
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House called for more U.S. and global oil output to fight rising energy costs, but a top intelligence official said on Wednesday that prices at $100 per barrel had yet to spur production.

"We would like to not only have exporting countries increase their output but we would also like here in the United States to be able to increase domestic (oil) production in environmentally friendly ways," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters.

She insisted, however, there was no "silver bullet" or short-term solution to high energy costs.

Perino spoke as government forecasters warned U.S. drivers would pay much more for gasoline this spring and summer than they did last year because of more expensive crude oil.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080227/pl_nm/security_oil_usa_dc
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:08 PM
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1. More oil is not the remedy for a falling devalued dollar.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:48 PM
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5. bada bing!!! right on!!!
Corporations can start to bolster the economy by refraining from outsourcing.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:21 PM
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2. Good luck with that
Global oil output peaked in 2005, and has been flatlined since then. Lately it even looks like it's starting to decline a bit.

The US oil output peaked in 1970, and has been on a downhill slide ever since. Not the high oil prices of oil shocks of the 1970's, 1980's, or in the past 5 years, nor the opening of the Alaskan wilderness, have helped offset the decline.

Maybe we should face the fact that we're leaving the age of cheap oil?
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:45 PM
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4. Any opinion on abiotic hydrocarbons?
"There is an alternative theory about the formation of oil and gas deposits that could change estimates of potential future oil reserves. According to this theory, oil is not a fossil fuel at all, but was formed deep in the Earth's crust from inorganic materials. The theory was first proposed in the 1950s by Russian and Ukranian scientists. Based on the theory, successful exploratory drilling has been undertaken in the Caspian Sea region, Western Siberia, and the Dneiper-Donets Basin".

http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/1130.html
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/SustainableOil/
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:19 PM
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7. I have read several articles
debunking the theory. I bet those in the energy forum could point you to some good info on it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=115
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leftrightwingnut Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 10:04 PM
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14. Virtually unlimited abiotic hydrocarbon deposits would be a disaster.
We are already slowly poisoning our atmosphere with carbon dioxide from burning hydrocarbons, regardless of origin. If the abiotic theory is correct, the eventual outcome is extreme global warming because we will eventually overwhelm the atmosphere with it regardless of how accurate our estimates of carbon dioxide's warming effects are. Carbon dioxide acidifies the oceans and freshwater sources, turning them to weak soda pop acid killing all life in them. Even if we were to survive those effects and still continue to burn the fuels, land animals, including humans, will eventually be unable to breathe and die.

Have you ever seen the movie "Apollo 13"? The astronauts on that ill-fated craft nearly died because the filters that removed carbon dioxide from the cabin air failed. They were nearly killed by their own carbon dioxide emissions.

So, it may be very difficult to live in a world whose oil supplies have just peaked, but it is probably a good thing in the long run.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:15 AM
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15. Absolutely agree with you there.
Unless, of course, we can apply some rationality and self-discipline to future economic and social development.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:38 PM
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3. Why would oil companies want to increase production?
It would lower oil prices, which would lower profits.

They've got the consumer by the short hairs and I doubt they want to let go.

And OPEC has no incentive since they're losing money on oil sales thanks to a declining dollar. That's why they'll remove the peg to the dollar, which will cause even more domestic problems.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:58 PM
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6. Dana Perino is either one the most stupid people alive today or else one of the
most disingenuous
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:29 PM
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9. can't she be both
:hi:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:40 PM
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12. That is the exact definition of a republican.
Republican: "A person that is either stupid or disingenuous"
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Cymric Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:24 PM
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8. It won't matter
What people don't understand it that the oil will go on the public market despite where it comes from. We could pump more oil but it could go to China instead of the US.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:11 PM
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10. If the World got together on this oil thing, We could shut down that War-Machine
.
.
.

Ya think it's doable?

Or would they just bomb anyone that cut them off?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:34 PM
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11. option two....
That's why they call it the military industrial complex.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:13 PM
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13. maybe he really is an idiot
and the puppet masters don't tell him what they are planning
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:23 AM
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16. and all those oil companies, are rolling in money right now
and just laughing at us.
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