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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:40 AM
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Abu Ghraib prison turned soldiers evil by design: researcher
Source: AFP

by Glenn Chapman

MONTEREY, California (AFP) - The very design of Abu Ghraib in Iraq turned good soldiers into evil tormentors that humiliated and brutalized prisoners, a famed social psychologist said Thursday.

Stanford University professor Philip Zimbardo described a "Lucifer effect" as he flashed shocking images of Abu Ghraib horrors for those at an elite Technology, Entertainment and Design conference in California.

"If you give people power without oversight it is a formula for abuse," Zimbardo said to a stunned audience the included famous actors, entrepreneurs and politicians.

"Abu Ghraib abuses went on for three months ... Who was watching the store? Nobody, and it was on purpose."


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080229/wl_mideast_afp/scienceusiraqwarsocietymilitarytorture



I know this is related to another link currently on the LBN mainpage concerning the photos themselves, but I thought this was important to include, given the basic issue Professor Zimbardo is adressing.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:01 AM
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1. It started before they got to Abu Ghraib.
How much truth were they being allowed to have access to before they got to Iraq?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:03 AM
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2. Yes, it started right here in our correctional system. n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:14 AM
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3. The wardens who setup Abu Ghraib were former US prison officials.
The atrocities at Abu Ghraib are nothing new, we've being doing worse to our own citizens for years.

http://www.historiansagainstwar.org/resources/torture/b...

The use of sex and sexual humiliation as torture in Abu Ghraib and the other American prisons in Iraq is endemic to the American prison. Psychological and physical sexual torture is exacerbated by the underlying policy of denying prisoners any volitional sex, making the only two forms of sexual activity that are physically possible--homosexuality and masturbation--both offenses subject to punishment. Strip searches, including invasive and often intentionally painful examination of the mouth, anus, testicles, and vagina, frequently accompanied by verbal or physical sexual abuse, are part of the daily routine in most prisons. A 1999 Amnesty International report documented the commonplace rape of prisoners by guards in women's prisons.(2)

Each year, numerous prisoners are maimed, crippled, and even killed by guards. Photographs could be taken on any day in the American prison system that would match the photographs from Abu Ghraib that shocked the public. Indeed, actual pictures from prisons in America have shown worse atrocities than those pictures from the American prisons in Iraq. For example, no photos of American abuse of Iraqi prisoners have yet equaled the pictures of dozens of prisoners savagely and mercilessly tortured by guards and state troopers in the aftermath of the 1971 Attica rebellion.(3) Even more appalling images are available in the documentary film Maximum Security University about California's state Corcoran Prison. For years at Corcoran, guards set up fights among prisoners, bet on the outcome, and then often shot the men for fighting, seriously wounding at least 43 and killing eight just in the period 1989-1994. The film features official footage of five separate incidents in which guards, with no legal justification, shoot down and kill unarmed prisoners.(4)

But if the tortures practiced in American prisons are so commonplace, then why, one might reasonably ask, did those pictures from Abu Ghraib evoke such an outcry? The answer to this critical question lies in the history of the American prison and how the prison functions in contemporary culture.

Prior to the American Revolution, imprisonment was seldom used as punishment for crime in England and was rarer still in its American colonies. The main punishments under England's notorious "Bloody Code" were executions and various forms of physical torture--whipping, the stocks, the pillory, branding, mutilation, castration, etc.--all designed as spectacles to be witnessed by the public. The prison system, in contrast, institutionalizes isolation and secrecy. The prison's walls are designed not only to keep the prisoners in but to keep the public out, thus preventing observation or knowledge of what is going on inside. Unknowable to all but prisoners and guards, the prison thus becomes a physical site where the most unspeakable torture can continue without any restraint. And as an unknowable place, the prison can thus also become a prime site for cultural fantasy.


Emphasis mine.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:47 AM
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4. One citizen out of every one hundred in our country is in jail!
That is an astounding failure rate. Sorry, but not everyone is equipped to play on the uneven field known as the free market. If guys like Bush* get bailed out after multiple failures, it shows how unfair the system is. Instead we lock up the mostly poor, mostly Black to prop up corporate welfare.

(off the topic, but I had to bring it up, sorry)
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:00 AM
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5. And let's not forget just how big the prison and 'security' industry is these days..
it's like a sick, twisted version of the tech boom from the 90's. Vast fortunes are being made.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:15 AM
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8. BBC Documentary "Torture: America's Brutal Prisons"
Watch some snips from it on Youtube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCaKROXGjbQ

BTW your link to the article from historiansagainstwar.org was truncated and didn't work. Here it is:
http://www.historiansagainstwar.org/resources/torture/brucefranklin.html
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:18 AM
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13. Thanks for that fixed link! n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:30 AM
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14. Ayup. John Ashcroft selected four prison administrators with horrible human rights records.
Swell guy, eh?

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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:19 AM
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6. K & recommended
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:27 AM
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7. Bush**-Rove people called it a college prank, and smirked about it. That woman
with her "thumbs" up was undoubtedly a heroine of the right wing.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:23 AM
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9. Right-wing reactionary plan for perpetual War
Brutalize the enemy, brutalize civilians, instill terror and create a perpetual source of enemies.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:16 AM
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10. Oh bullshit. They were ordered to torture and they did.
Blame Dick, George and Rummy for these crimes, not the porn actors they hired to commit them.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:29 AM
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11. "A "hero" at Abu Ghraib
turned out to be a lowly private that called for abuses there to be stopped, according to the professor."


I'd sure like to know more about this courageous individual.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:59 AM
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12. Zimbardo has been around forever, very distinguished. If he says it, it's true, essentially.
For a lot of people.
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