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swag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:16 AM Original message |
Nader might sway November presidential election, poll shows |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Somebody needs to talk Nader and his followers off the ledge! |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Didn't we try that with Kerry/Edwards? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I guess so - it's a good thing Obama's campaign is registering so many new voters. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
125. More importantly - Kerry met with him |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. N.A.D.E.R. = |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
72. Might you show some respect |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Ask the 4,000+ families of dead soldiers what they think of nader |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. So running for President makes one a selfish snot? Obama and Clinton included? |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. ot that animation is so funny, it suddenly stuck its tongue out at me and scared me |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. puh-leez |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
95. Respect is EARNED |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
105. wow, welcome to DU comrade |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #72 |
120. Hey Dick! |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. For someone with a DK av, you sure don't seem to have an appropriate commitment to democracy |
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Cabcere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. In the words of Derek Smalls: |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. perhaps it might finally show the democrats that being pale imitations of repukes ain't working. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Spoken like a Naderite. All it will do is split the progressive vote, |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. when are the democrats going to figure out that being just like a repuke |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Only an idiot could look at the past 8 years under Bush and say that |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. both are tools of the elite. |
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bronxiteforever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Justices Scalia and Thomas and Alito thank you for your support |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
67. Al Gore was not a "tool of the elite" Ralf Nader is. |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. What political action committees did gore take money from |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. What Republican operatives did Nader take money from? |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. did the party refuse pac money |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Moveon is a PAC, and they have their own agenda. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
101. They both voted for this damned war, they both refuse to impeach, |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. They are not "just like a repuke", you are just repeating Nader's lies. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Which Party prevented the march into Iran and Syria thus far? |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. I tend to be supportive of candidates that are actually progressive democrats. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Which candidate is pushing a corporate master agenda? And, which candidates |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
121. lets see. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
65. Ah yes, we should strive to compete with Nader for his 6% of the vote. |
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scratchy (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. BINGO! We have a winner |
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. "Go Nader Go" ... Right into helping John McCain get elected! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
81. Yes, |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
103. Nicely put. Couldn't agree more. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. No He Won't... what a bunch of BS |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:38 PM Original message |
THAT IS a very good point. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. There you go. n/t |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
7. Not if we fight to keep his name off of the ballot in state after state. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's mighty democratic of you. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Nothing undemocratic about making sure Nader follows the same rules |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. He wasn't talking about following rules. |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Yeah. "DOWN WITH DISSENT! DOWN WITH DEMOCRACY!" |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
70. More anti-democracy from Hillary's opponent's minions |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
115. "Anything goes." |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. And whose fault would that be? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. If the Dems met every demand of the left wing, they'd lose votes |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. So they strive to meet every demand of the right wing instead |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. It's not abject terror -- it's practical realism vs. perfectionistic idealism. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. Absolutely wrong- you're buying the corporate media's framing |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
109. Thank you, depakid! |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. which to me says that we need to break the system. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Holy Shit |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. while mine is in the lower left hand corner. |
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Captain Angry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
61. Neat chart. Thank you for posting that. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. The Dems are supposed to BE the Left Wing |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. "Blame Nadar" won't work this time. This time it will be the fault of the Dem party, and the nasty |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. he always was a patsy. |
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Pogue.Mahone (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Amen... |
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IndependentDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. agree 100%, we can only blame ourselves this time n/t |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. SO. How much are the Republicans paying him to run THIS time? (n/t) |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. I don't think he was paid a dime he is so full of himself..he only cares keeping republicans in the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. Deleted sub-thread |
2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. how did he get news time again - great candidates couldn't wake up these |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. - is he on the Rove payroll? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. Great. He's such an ass. And he knows what this does in a close |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. If the dems were running a good candidate instead of the two self-serving |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. Like I said, Obama and Nader need to sit down and have a little talk |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. His VP will make him very attractive to: |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
33. No he won't. This is not 2000. nt |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I agree. Looks like Zogby screwed up again on his sampling /nt |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
34. Zogby's polls have not been too good this year. I also don't buy his 6% for Nader |
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singilarpoint (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I think.. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. I agree. Nader didn't get 6% last time. Not even in 2000. |
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Ravachol (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
91. And how do you know that? |
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singilarpoint (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. We must.. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. well, as someone once said |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. Bring it on! |
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freedomnorth (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. Remember Alex Jones yelling: Whos side are you on? n/t. |
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CGrantt57 (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
44. Anybody who trusts anything Zogby says... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That's about the long and short of it |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. no poll is sacrosanct |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. Let's hope Nader goes into a coma |
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Freedom Train (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. Add to that the Green Party |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. Nader warned the dems |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. 1000 voters? Poll a 100,000 -- then I'll worry. |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
56. One thing I don't understand |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. Why can't nader just move away...Like to the North Pole |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
59. Margin of error 3.2%!!! That puts Nader at 2.8%. Even that is too high. |
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singilarpoint (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. 2004 RESULTS |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
110. That's about right. Nader made a real impact in 2004. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
123. Margin of error 3.2%!!! That puts Nader at 9.2%. Even that is too low! |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
60. Where will he spend the last weeks of the election to elect McCain? |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
63. "Ralph Nader-Apoplexy Season All Over Again" by Tom Gallagher (3-6-2008) |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. Articles like this are written to encourage GOP contributions to Nader. |
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No Blood for Hubris (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
68. You wish, Ralphie. Washed all that blood on your hands off yet? No? |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
77. Too bad |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
78. He seems to just not care anymore. All that matters is Nader's own agenda and |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
82. Oh boo hoo, if ya can't beat Nader you don't deserve to |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
84. I think we can ignore the poll. It's Zogby, so it's corrupt. |
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ryanmuegge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
86. It's going to be close. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
88. that means that Obama needs to convince potential Nader voters that w |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
89. I can think of one really good reason not to vote for Ralph |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. bah! don't blame nader n/.t |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
90. John Zogby has no credibility left after his 'predictions' of HRC's demise. But Nader is a jerk. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
92. Nader is about the least of the Democratic Party's problems |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
96. Great. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #96 |
102. Clinton + Obama = Spoilers! |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Don't. Even. Go. There. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. What About Democratic Party Enablers? |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 05:27 AM Response to Reply #112 |
119. Now, see, there you're doing it. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
100. The fix is in |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
104. What moron would vote for Nader? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. Michael Moore? |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
106. just the diversion of votes that Diebold (or successors) were looking for |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
116. There'll be Libertarians and that bizarre "Constitutional party," too |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
107. It basically came down to this: impeachment off the table, Nader on the table |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
111. oooookay |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
113. To be expected, I think. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
117. WTF??? Now THAT'S what you call a "latte liberal" |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
118. EES will sway the election more than Nader |
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progpen (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
122. This discussion is not surprising, but it is funny. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
124. Ya know, with the shit-slinging fest that the campaign is turning into |
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