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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:16 PM
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JPMorgan says it would buy ailing Bear Stearns for $2 a share
Source: Associated Press

1 minute ago

NEW YORK - JPMorgan Chase says it will acquire rival Bear Stearns for $2 a share in a move aimed at averting spreading panic in the financial markets over tightening credit.

JP Morgan says the all-stock deal has received the required approvals from the federal government and the Federal Reserve.

The Fed will provide special financing to JPMorgan Chase in connection with the deal. The central bank has agreed to fund up to $30 billion of Bear Stearns' less liquid assets.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/jpmorgan_bear_stearns



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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:18 PM
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1. Only $2.00 a share? Doesn't make sense,then what does these days.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:11 PM
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56. It would seem that the spirit of JPMorgan....
...the founder of our last Great Depression, is alive and well.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:00 PM
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67. YES --- and BSC is insolvent and they and the insiders at JPM knew it
Last month--- I wonder how many bailed already
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:04 PM
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71. I sure the ones who were "supposed" to....
...were already safely on the sidelines with good seats so they could watch.

And the Asian markets are in turmoil right now. Its all red:

http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia">Asian Market Streaming Quotes

- Yikes, this is not pretty....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:56 PM
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75. and it is MIGHTY white of them to do so, isn't it...
mighty mighty MIGHTY white of them.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:19 PM
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2. earlier I read BS wanted $20.00 per share????
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:25 PM by angstlessk
shit I recon that is a fire sale?

On edit: wait, JP get the stocks for $2.00 per share or 236 million and the 'central bank' aka the fucking federal reserve will fund 30 BILLION to prop up the less 'liquid' assets?

Does this mean the taxpayers will fund the loss and JP will pay $2.00 for stock worth about $20.00 because the FUCKING TAXPAYERS bailed them out???

An us homeowners who did not take all the legal courses we should have before signing our mortgage (equal to a doctorate) can just suck eggs???
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:45 PM
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26. Could be sensible
Basically, the equity in Bear Stearns is worthless. Think of buying a house for $100,000 and putting in $2K and borrowing $98K.

The less liquid assets are a problem. They are mortgage securities and they have cash flows associated with them, and they are therefore worth something. The trouble is that, there is literally NO BID for any of these securities even though they have a cash flow associated with them. So if not one person is willing to buy these securities, where do you mark its value? By law, banks are forced to mark their securities to market - but what happens when there is no market? Gets very unclear what the value is. So, these $30B of less liquid securities cannot be sold, but they do have cash flows coming in - those cash flows are withering away though as people default on their homes.....all that said, there are models that get used to mark these securities (even though nobody knows if the models are correct either)...and the models say that the banks have far less money than they did before - forcing them to raise capital to cover their legal minimums and meet any margin calls they may have. Bear could not do that - they could not come up with the cash needed to stay in business because their less liquid assets were not desired by anyone else and nobody knows what they are worth - they are valued by where they are marked, but cannot be sold at those levels - Imagine a market where the bid is 10 and the offer 75 - that is more or less the problem here.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:12 PM
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72. Were you able to watch the C Span coverage of the Chris Dodd
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:13 PM by truedelphi
Hearings held on Senate oversight of the Banks and the crisis back on MArch 4th?

The young people in charge of the computer models were all going, "Well, everything had been so rosy for so long, that we never thought to enter any data for the models that wasn't also rosy or at least benign."

Garbage in, garbage out... It's a shame these computer model-ers had to take the economy with them while they learned how to model the game.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:20 PM
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3. Buying at $2 a share - sock closed at $30 on Friday
If those figures are right - :wow:
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:48 PM
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30. Closed at $57 on Thursday, and at $70.08 the previous Friday. ( n/t )
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:50 PM by Make7
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:20 PM
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4. That has to be a typo in the article.
I read AP at $20.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:24 PM
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8. Any link? That's AP on Yahoo, in the OP
And here's another one, via the AP's own front page link:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/J/JPMORGAN_BEAR_STEARNS?SITE=CAVIC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Same story.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:21 PM
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5. It's a typo. It's 20$ but this will make people shit their pants.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:27 PM
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10. NOT a typo....repeat NOT A TYPO @ $20.00 p/share 2.2 Billion they paid 236 million
The Wall Street Journal said on Sunday that Bear Stearns could sell itself for around $2.2 billion, or less than $20 a share
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:01 PM
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40. two. not twenty. two. 2. TWO.
that says a lot.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:21 PM
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6. Once the Fed gets on with their bailout
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:47 PM by gristy
BS is going to be worth a lot more than $2 a share (and maybe more than $20/share). I see they were at $160/share a little over a year ago.

http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/5y/b/bsc

And they haven't been at 20 bucks since 1996
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/my/b/bsc

And they were at $3.84 in 1985
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/my/b/bsc

$2/share! :wow:
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:21 PM
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7. $2 dollar! $2 dollar? You've got to be kidding.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:22 PM by screembloodymurder
Must be a misprint. If I owned shares I'd sue.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:08 PM
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55. Then you should sue mgmnt of BSC; please read this Sun Times
article of BSC's "dog-eat-dog we're brass knuckles, we're tough" ...
and how we end up a bailout nation.

Read the article and you might agree with me that BSC deserves no less
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:27 PM
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9. For JP Morgan Chase is there not the bonus of tax write offs? Big ones when they buy the dump?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:27 PM
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11. Check out the Bear message board. Too funny!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:31 PM
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13. And check the ironic ads in the sidebar on the right
"Money Can Grow on Trees" "Stocks Ready To Soar" "Reliable Net Profits of $4000 a day. Easy - No Experience Needed".
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:31 PM
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14. WOW, and people think GDP is rough....that's some comedy gold in there.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:21 PM
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59. Yeah "TAKE POISON YOU BASTARD" is going to be my new snark line!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:22 PM
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77. That is an excellent one. That place is packed with em'.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. "I BOUGHT 10,000 SHARES AT 32.00 ON FRIDAY"
"on margin, what am I going to do now?"



Reply:
"Bend over and hold tight this is gonna hurt a little"




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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:56 PM
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69. Shit. Sorry to hear that.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:48 AM
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80. Uh, you're going to lose a shitload of money. Never try to catch a falling knife . . .
:wtf: was this person THINKING?!?!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:47 PM
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28. Here's another one! LOL
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:52 PM
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34. Yikes that's some major money these people lost.
I can't see why, they didn't see it coming
with all the news on this.

I didn't expect $2, but something
around $15 by tomorrow.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:03 PM
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42. BASHERS & SHORTS SHOW SOME RESPECT:
for the people who are stuck holding bsc! I sincerely feel for the people who have lost vast sums of money on this stock! A few years ago I nearly lost every thing I had on (Km) Kmart that was my own fault. the writting was on the wall before they went bk. I speculated and on MLK day when the markets were closed that when they declared BK! no way out. since then I have recovered my money making much smarter trades. its difficult to make a come back when youre hit this hard but it can be done! good luck to all of you caught up in this mess! and as to the bashers & shorts on this board to kick people when their down is nothing short of evil when you least expect it youre day will come! mark this post!

Answer......

i don't feel a damn bit sorry. greedy pigs. bear and the rest helped stoke one of the biggest bubbles - and scams - in recent financial history. too many fat cats unfortunately walked away with gazillions. at least the bear rank & file will (hopefully) pay a price. if you were greedy and dumb enough to go long, too frigging bad. stop your fuc*ing whining
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_T/threadview?m=te&bn=2670&tid=101007&mid=101007&tof=3&frt=2#101007

LOLOLOLOLLLLLLLL
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:41 PM
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65. Here are some more gems found on the message boards

1. George W. Bush Worst President Than Adolph Hitler
What other evil than George W. Bush could spawn this mess?
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 34 minutes ago

2. HOW DOES IT FEEL AMERICA?!
The Frankenstein monster George W. Bush has now turned on you. The monster's mantra CRUSH, KILL, DESTORY is being felt by you. The monster will destroy you.
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 42 minutes ago

3. WHOLE BANKING SYSTEM IN RUINS
ENDLESS WAR FINANCIAL COLLAPSE DEPRESSION AMERICAN IN RUINS THAT IS THE BUSH LEGACY
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 16-Mar-08 08:28 pm

4. Citi Holders Are Craping Their Pants
Their stock is worth nothing too.
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 16-Mar-08 08:25 pm

5. CORRECTION: 2 cents a share
Who are you going to believe, me or the newswire?
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 16-Mar-08 08:20 pm

6. Re: One day BSC is "ALL IS WELL" next day its were a train wreck
All it took was 24 hours says the company, then it was broke. A real case of 'Here today, gone tomorrow.'
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 15-Mar-08 01:25 am

7. Warren Buffett Might Buy BSC
Who knows?
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 15-Mar-08 01:19 am

8. Re: Remember: REAL ESTATE is a HARD Asset
Real estate prices have probably bottomed. I say this because, in the worst areas, they have fallen 30% or more. The world is much different that during the Great Depression...
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks B > BERKSHIRE HATH HLD A (BRK-A) soapking_2000 14-Mar-08 10:00 pm

9. The Future For America is BLEAK
Don't you wish Clinton were back in office?
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 14-Mar-08 09:44 pm

10. G.W. BUSH HAS HEAD UP HIS ASS
He insists the economy is not in recession and opposes Democratic measures for government intervention to resolve the credit crisis. Left to continue in office, his legacy would be an...
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 14-Mar-08 09:38 pm

11. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD NEWS
The bailout likely means that Bear Stearns won't go out of business. I guess it's a case of 'buy on the rumor, sell on the news'.
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 14-Mar-08 09:27 pm

12. Re: WORLD currnecy - will be Peso soon
Mexico will buy the United States. LAMO
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks T > The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. soapking_2000 14-Mar-08 05:24 pm

13. Re: This WONT GO AWAY SPITZER
He has to resign, he has no choice since he'll be in prison for the next 5 years.
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks A > Apple Inc. (AAPL) soapking_2000 11-Mar-08 01:14 am

14. HOW UGLY WILL IT GET?
Not as ugly as your face.
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks A > Apple Inc. (AAPL) soapking_2000 10-Mar-08 05:52 pm

15. AN UGLY DAY
As ugly as your face.
Business & Finance > Investments > Stocks (A to Z) > Stocks B > BERKSHIRE HATH HLD B (BRK-B) soapking_2000
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:30 PM
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12. Good Grief $2.00?
From $30 to $2..... this is gonna be interesting.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:33 PM
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15. OMG It's not a typo.!!!!!!!! $236.2 million TWO DOLLARS!!!!

AP
JPMorgan Closes Deal on Bear Stearns
Sunday March 16, 7:18 pm ET
By Joe Bel Bruno and Madlen Read, AP Business Writers
JPMorgan Chase Says It Will Acquire Rival Bear Stearns for $2 a Share


NEW YORK (AP) -- JPMorgan Chase said Sunday it will acquire rival Bear Stearns in a deal valued at $236.2 million, a stunning collapse for one of the world's largest and most venerable investment banks.
JPMorgan Chase & Co. said the $2 a share, all-stock deal has received the required approvals from the federal government and the Federal Reserve. Bear Stearns shares close Friday at $30 a share.

The Fed will provide special financing to JPMorgan Chase in connection with the deal, JPMorgan Chase said. The central bank has agreed to fund up to $30 billion of Bear Stearns' less liquid assets.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080316/jpmorgan_bear_stearns.html

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:15 PM
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57. You should be ashamed of yourself....
...for ever doubting me. j/k

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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:27 AM
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84. Just their building is worth twice that: weird.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:35 PM
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17. Since S&P downgraded Bear on Friday, Bear is not a going concern
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:36 PM by Robbien
Bear's only true business was to get credit at low interest and then loan it out at higher interest.

Bear cannot get credit at low interest rates (if it can get any at all).

Thus, not a going concern.

Not hard to believe JPMorgan is going to be swooping down like a vulture and have a feast on the dying, soon to be dead, bear.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:36 PM
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18. This is why you do not buy individual stocks
$160/sh to $2 in less than 10 months.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:56 PM
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36. cmon
i've made immense amounts of money buying individual stocks (and futures and options etc.)

this is why YOU DO NOT PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET

you diversify.

my largest stock holding is less than 4% of my entire portfolio

but stocks are the greatest wealth builders known to man - and available to all with access to markets

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:18 PM
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50. That's great for you. Most people who try to buy individual stocks don't follow that philosophy
I buy cheap index funds.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:22 PM
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52. that's good too
love index funds. vanguard especially.

i agree that MOST don't. i am obscenely anally discipline when it comes to stocks at least :)
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:58 PM
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70. I'd like to see how far your song and dance....
goes over on wall street on monday. Or, the people that will lose their jobs because of this.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:55 PM
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74. song and dance
the stock market is not song and dance. it's the greatest wealth creation engine known to man - ever.

and the nice thing about the stock market is the electronic markets show no respect to gender, race, creed, religion, etc. i get the same order priority as anybody else in the order book.

are you predicting armageddon on monday?

capital is placed at risk. some people will lose money. some will lose jobs. heck, scores of hedge funds have gone under in the last year. welcome to wall street.

the jun contract dow futures are currently down 249 pts.



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:37 PM
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19. That's the end of a financial institution that has been independent forever
The sharks are circling while the country goes to pot.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:37 PM
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20. But the corporate art collection should bring in enough for a kegger.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:38 PM
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21. In 2005, James E Cayne of Bear Stearns made $26M and owned $658M in stock
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:42 PM
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24. OK, I found the detail on Schwarz
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:38 PM
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22. Now on Reuters too:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co said on Sunday it would buy troubled rival Bear Stearns for about $2 a share in an all-stock deal, and that the Federal Reserve would fund up to $30 billion of Bear Stearns' less liquid assets.

In a statement, JPMorgan said it would exchange 0.05473 shares of its stock for one share of Bear Stearns' stock. It is guaranteeing the trading obligations of Bear Stearns and its subsidiaries.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1438968020080316
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:41 PM
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23. I wonder how the market will react
Seems like we are paying Peter to pay Paul. The underlying problem of bad loans and margin calls still remains.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:59 PM
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38. Tokyo opens its markets in 4 minutes
Hey , I get to issue the 4 minute warning!

I honestly don't know what this would do to Japanese banks or other companies, though. British banks are fairly heavily involved in the US market, though - they could be interesting in 8 hours time (and, of course, my pension depends partly on the UK stock market :( )
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:05 PM
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43. I didn't know you were a mod
I missed seeing your posts around here. Now I know why.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:11 PM
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46. Yeah, it takes up a lot of the time available for DU
and I occasionally have to bite my tongue, too ... :evilgrin:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:22 AM
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85. I'll tell you exactly how they'll react
Last week, someone in the Lounge posted a link to the Top 10 Weirdest Scientific Papers Ever. One of them was on projectile defecation in penguins. Something about how a penguin could squirt shit four feet, or something like that.

Well, the market's gonna look like that penguin, except the distance will be measured in miles.

Two bucks a share--as a Stock-Only Transaction, no cash at all--is gonna hurt REAL bad.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:44 PM
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25. NOT A TYPO?????????? $2/share????
:wow:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:51 PM
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32. Deregulation? BWHAHAHA!
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:52 PM by Karenina
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:45 PM
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27. At $2 a share, I'll buy a chunk!!!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:48 PM
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29. Best look at their balance sheet first!
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:49 PM
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31. "roughly a 98.8 percent discount to its book value as of Feb. 29." - now I call that a CRASH
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"The announcement from both the Fed and JPMorgan comes ahead of what some analysts expected to be a brutal day for global stocks. Already, before the announcements, New Zealand's markets opened drastically lower — then began to recover after the deal was unveiled.

A collapse of Bear Stearns could have created a further crisis of confidence in world financial markets amid a deepening credit crunch. JPMorgan's acquisition of Bear Stearns represents roughly 1 percent of what the investment bank was worth just 16 days ago.

The deal represented a 93.3 percent discount to Bear Stearns' market capitalization as of Friday, and roughly a 98.8 percent discount to its book value as of Feb. 29.

more

A song comes to mind from the 70's

We've only just begun

"We've only just begun to live, White lace and promises A kiss for luck and we're on our way. "


hmmmm
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:52 PM
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33. Asian markets open soon
Results shown right now are Friday's close. http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:58 PM
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37. UPDATE 1-Japan stocks may fall as credit worries spread

TOKYO, March 17 (Reuters) - Japanese stocks may fall on
Monday as credit worries spread following last week's emergency
rescue of U.S. investment bank Bear Stearns (BSC.N: Quote, Profile, Research), with a
stronger yen seen weighing on exporters such as Toyota Motor Corp
(7203.T: Quote, Profile, Research). But the dollar began to climb after JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research)
announced that it was acquiring Bear Stearns and the Federal
Reserve cut its discount rate. One stock to watch is Hitachi Ltd (6501.T: Quote, Profile, Research), which said on
Friday it would fall into a net loss for the year ending this
month, compared with its previous forecast of a net profit, hit
by the sluggish performance of its TV operations. "The fact that Bear Stearns ended up in that situation makes
the market inevitably wonder if there are more banks like that
out there, worsening credit fears," said Yutaka Miura, senior
technical analyst at Shinko Securities. "If the dollar manages to recover to the 99 yen level, stocks
could rebound a bit as well. But otherwise they're looking to
test the downside, perhaps break below 12,000." The Nikkei was expected to range from 11,900 to 12,400, with
defensive shares likely to be bought amid otherwise general
selling. The Nikkei closed on Friday at 12,241.60, its lowest
since Aug. 10, 2005. In a sign of how the market may move, Nikkei futures traded
in Chicago 2NKc1 finished at 12,110 on Friday compared with
12,200 in Osaka JNIc1.
----------------------MARKET SNAPSHOT @ 2252 GMT ------------

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idCAT24442820080316?rpc=44
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:18 PM
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58. ASIA is open now, dropping close to 3 percent - your link updates every few seconds
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 08:19 PM by ConcernedCanuk
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http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia

at this moment

All Ordinaries 5,155.50 9:16PM ET 133.00 (2.51%) <<<< (down)

That link's a keeper

good one

edit to add Nikkei 225 11,851.23 8:58PM ET 390.37 (3.19%) <<< down
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:23 PM
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60. are the Asian stocks dropping so fast because they own so much of our debt?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:36 PM
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64. Or because lower US interest rates weaken the dollar
which mean Japanese exports to the US become more expensive, which means their volume will decrease, so Japanese firms will sell less goods.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:53 PM
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35. Futures are up Fed is cutting 25% today and 75% Tuesday
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:54 PM by Joanne98
It's another dead cat bounce!!!!!!!!

US STOCKS-Index futures rise after Fed cuts discount rate

NEW YORK, March 14 (Reuters) - U.S. stock index futures rose on Sunday evening after the Federal Reserve unexpectedly cut the discount rate and said it will begin allowing primary dealers on Wall Street to borrow at the discount rate.

S&P 500 futures SPc2 rose 5.3 points and Dow Jones industrial average futures DJc2 rose 84 points. Nasdaq 100 NDc2 futures rose 5 points. (Reporting by Chris Sanders; Editing by Tomasz Janowski)
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1650554520080316?rpc=44


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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:10 PM
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45. Oops..
S&P down 9.40 as of 19:52
DJI down 43.00 as of 19:47
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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:12 PM
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47. D'oh!
S&P down 11.20 as of 19:56.
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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:00 PM
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39. Fuck the "free" markets, eh?
1) Obviously, BSC is insolvent and JPM and the Fed knew it, without notifying the BSC shareholders, fund managers, et al.

2) No competitive bidding? A whirlwind weekend auction with one bidder?

3) Screw antitrust laws. One of the largest banks in the world takes under another, with rapid gummint approval? No hearings?

If I were a betting man, which I am, I'd see a tell here: The financial markets are done for.
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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:05 PM
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44. Oh, and the Fed does a Sunday cut?
Couldn't be to offset a crash related to their approval of a multi-billion dollar loss in BSC's market cap could it?

Collusion? What collusion?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:01 PM
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41. Just heard they did buy!
Yikes. Peee UUUUUU!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:12 PM
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48. I just woke up, this isn't a nightmare, is it?
Just another WTF moment in the Booshe misAdministration. They will strip the meat from the bones of this economy before he leaves office, just to leave it a shambles for the Democrats.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:15 PM
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76. Nope this is real. The Robber Barrons are BAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!
And they are going to buy all of us for pennies on the dollar.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:12 PM
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49. Bloomberg LIVE Quotes futures - Naz down 32 / Dow Down 155/ S & P down 20 @ 8:09 est
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:22 PM
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51. Will it be a Monday free fall at the Exchange? My crystal ball says, Yes.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:26 PM
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53. Futures are a sea of red.........
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:45 PM
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54. I got home, saw the $2/share headline, and put my thoughts
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 08:06 PM by Deny and Shred
down in this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=114x36300

And I just have to ask - where is the SEC? Thank goodness they locked up Martha, and let this sort of thing go unabated.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:26 PM
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61. Fuck! Look! L00K!! at The Shorts
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 08:27 PM by Crisco
Financial Services
Betting Against Bear
Liz Moyer, 03.12.08, 6:00 AM ET

Somewhere out there, some options speculator thinks Bear Stearns' stock, which closed at $62.30 in Tuesday trading on the New York Stock Exchange, will be below $10 by July.

That is a spectacular long-shot bet, but heavy if more modest bets against the Wall Street investment bank have been piling on for days in the options world. The number of puts, which is a bet the stock price will fall, is nearly three times as high as calls, a bet the stock will rise.

Options traders don't seem to believe Bear Stearns' (nyse: BSC - news - people ) denial of speculation about its financial health. "There is absolutely no truth to the rumors of liquidity problems that circulated today in the market," the company said late Monday. President and Chief Executive Alan Schwartz said "Bear Stearns' balance sheet, liquidity and capital remain strong."

The message was backed up by U.S. securities regulators on Tuesday. Securities and Exchange Chairman Christopher Cox said that capital adequacy at the five largest U.S. investment banks was being closely watched. "We have a good deal of comfort about the capital cushions that these firms have been on," he said, including Bear.


http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/11/bear-stearns-liquidity-biz-wallst-cx_lm_0311options.html?partner=yahootix
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:29 PM
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62. And the award for Investor of the Year goes to: Joe Lewis
JOE LEWIS, the secretive British billionaire, has lost an estimated $800m in the collapse of the American investment bank Bear Stearns.

The 71-year-old currency trading tycoon, who runs his empire from the Bahamas, holds almost 10% of the bank's shares. Bear’s shares fell 40% on Friday to $27, after it secured a 28-day credit lifeline to stave off collapse.

Lewis began building a stake in Bear last September, when the shares were changing hands for more than $100.

The huge paper losses could force Lewis to sell out of some of his other positions, according to traders, in order to meet margin calls from his lending banks.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article3558485.ece


So that should be over a billion dollars, by now.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:34 PM
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63. JP Morgan saved America from the 1907 panic
Hope it works this time.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:54 PM
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66. Why is this important...?
I thought we were just supposed to worry about keeping the Ten Commandments on our courthouse lawns, and keeping gays from getting married. Wouldn't those things have prevented all this?

:sarcasm:, of course...
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:21 PM
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68. Fed Bail Out....
The Corp Buy out... Modern day Robin Hood in reverse.... Steal from the US Tax Payer and give to the Rich Corporations... Why is it so hard for Americans to see white collar crimes as these?
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:14 PM
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73. I read somewhere that Bear employees own 30%
of the company's stock--roughly 40,000,000 shares----which lost 96% of its value in 2 FRIKKIN DAYS, OMG, my heart goes out to them--not the a$$holes at the top of the corporate ladder, f%#k them, but the little guys who just lost a big chunk of their retirement money, or worse.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:58 AM
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78. Wow - the bread line will be getting longer. nt
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:43 AM
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79. Will there be a run on banks stocks today??
That is the question we all need to be asking today.. Is it worth anything to the average American that the FED bailout these speculators??
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:46 AM
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82. European bank stocks down around 10%; Lehman Bros. down 30% in pre-trading
European bank shares have been hit. UBS plunged 13.1%, Societe Generale fell 9.1%, Commerzbank was down 7.9%, and HBOS slumped 9.8%.

US banks were hammered in pre-market trading, with Lehman Brothers down 30%.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7300017.stm


Those European banks mentioned there are also 'commerical banks' - a lot of their business is 'true banking' - ie running accounts for people and businesses, and making normal loans to them. It's the investment banks, like Bear Stearns, who may be in for a big shock - when a large part of their recent business turns out to have been wishful thinking and dubiously-valued loans made by other people.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:50 AM
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81. Hot damn! Some people lost their pant on this!
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:50 AM by mainegreen
And their homes, their cars, their retirements too.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:48 AM
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83. See #62 - Joe Lewis may have lost over a billion dollars on this
but he's said to be worth $2.5 billion. Still, losing 40% of your money in a year must hurt a bit.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:36 AM
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86. NY Duers, there is going to be an awesome office furniture sale soon
When a company goes belly up they have to sell the office furniture. It is done auction style. It will be posted in the paper soon (in the Chicago Tribune the auctions are in the business section).

Anyway, if you need office furniture I'm sure Bear Sterns has some good stuff. A friend of mine bought stuff from the Arthur Anderson liquidation for something like 12 cents on the dollar. Computers (sometimes w/o harddrives), monitors, desks(honestly you can get a $4,000 desk for like $350 bucks), etc.

Don't get left out!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:43 AM
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87. Currently Trading at $3.79
JP Morgan has already almost doubled its investment!
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