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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:42 AM
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More than 5 million Americans have Alzheimer's
Source: Reuters



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An estimated 5.2 million Americans have Alzheimer's disease, and it could steal the minds of one out of eight baby boomers, according to a report released on Tuesday by the Alzheimer's Association.

The report found there were 411,000 new cases of Alzheimer's in 2000, a number expected to grow to 454,000 new cases a year by 2010. By 2050, 959,000 people will be diagnosed with the disease every year, the report predicts.

The report, available on the Internet here, says that 14 percent of all people age 71 and over have dementia.

That includes 16 percent of women and 11 percent of men in that age group.

Reuters


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1823885220080319



Why bother reporting who have which disease when 'our' health care business model is based on healthy patients to maximize profits?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:53 AM
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1. There Are Simple Things That Seem To Profoundly Decrease Incidence Of Alzheimer's
Fish oil, statins, and ibuprofen come to mind.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:10 AM
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2. Not to mention......
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:26 AM
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4. My Testing Will Start Soon! [nt]
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:58 AM
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14. You know it!
:smoke:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:10 PM
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22. um
"Those afflicted with Alzheimer’s suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. "

Shit - that's what happens to me when I smoke pot.:rofl:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:04 AM
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6. On the other hand, those things may not work at all.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 08:05 AM by zanne
My mother had Alzhiemer's. She was an intelligent woman who feared the disease, and researched all the preventative measures. She began taking certain herbs and vitamins while she was in her 60's. She read constantly and played word games to keep her mind sharp.

In her mid 70's, she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and died ten years later, unable to even turn herself over in bed. I was her caregiver.

It's good to try different things in the hope of staving off a horrible disease like Alzheimer's, but we also have to prepare somehow for the inevitable toll it will take on our health care system. I'm 55 and I'm terrified of Alzheimer's. I'd like to think that, should my day come, there will be measures in place to provide me with decent care.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:40 PM
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23. those things DEFINITELY do not work at all
i really feel for your mom, and i feel that we're in that same crappy boat -- we know it's coming but all of the magic spells suggested by an uncaring society don't work to ward it away

alzheimer's is related to one's age and genetic inheritance

eating the magic fish oil and taking the magic statins has done nothing but enrich those who sell these items

i'm tired of the bullshit spread about this disease and the crap we who have this in the family have to hear from those who don't have it in their family and thus are free to congratulate themselves on their magic pills

the victims in my family were really sharp people too, alzheimer's is no respector of age or the worker of crossword puzzles, the highly educated victim has more memory tricks and can conceal the symptoms longer, but eventually the tricks stop working -- hence that recent study that showed that highly educated alzheimer's victims appear to suffer a faster, steeper cognitive decline

i'm tired of people who have never dealt with this giving me advice about what pills to pop and what cookware to use and how to spend my time (on stupid-ass suduko games!)

sorry for the rant

i don't ask for anyone to care for me, all i ask is for the option of a physician assisted suicide at such time as i can't manage my own affairs but it won't happen, too much profit in keeping vegetables alive (i had a family member kept alive 20 years) so eventually i will have to take care of my own suicide while i still have some brain (and some quality time left) and it just seems shitty and unfair to me, but what else can i do? i wouldn't want my worst enemy bankrupted to keep me alive without a brain, and it's my husband, who i love, who will be financially destroyed

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:09 AM
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9. Stop smoking, stop drinking, stop drugging, stop coach potatoing, stop vegging.
Exercise body and mind. Eat brain food.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:00 AM
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15. Brains are food?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:56 AM
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20. Be Careful...
The intuitive isn't always correct in medical science.

Some or all of those things might actually help prevent Alzheimer's (particularly moderate drinking) - we simply don't know.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:42 PM
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24. manny, the know-it-alls would rather preach than give accurate information
how nice for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about to pretend that my family's tragedies were caused by smoking and drinking, even though the ladies in question never did either!

whenever it's a question of health, some ignorant busybody always has to step in to try to take away people's little pleasures
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:26 PM
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26. !!!
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harpboy_ak Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:38 AM
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27. Statins can CAUSE memory loss
You need to check your facts, because NONE of the things you mentioned have been proven to reduce the incidence of AD. In fact, statins like Lipitor can actually CAUSE memory loss, a documented effect for some, but not all users of statins.

Please don't continue spreading this misinformation. Folks wanting facts can go the Alzheimer's Association web site at www.alz.org
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:35 AM
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29. Not Proven - But Good Correlation In Retrospective Studies
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:18 PM
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33. don't cook in aluminum pans. Use enamel or stainless steel.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:11 AM
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3. A sure sign of dementia/Alzheimer is the failure to start a conversation....
...so when someone you love stops calling you the way they always did in that past, that could be a sign. Or if they’re particularly quiet at a family function. Or, when they start getting paranoid about people steeling their property; these are signs.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:08 AM
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7. Some other signs are;
Wearing season-inappropriate clothing, getting confused about telling time, and small personality changes that may not be noticed by people other than family members.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:36 AM
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18. My FIL
was always cold. Even when he would come to visit and it was in the 90's outside, he needed a jacket.
I miss him.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:44 PM
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32. I just thought yesterday how my mother never laughs the way she used to
She's 87 and has mild AD. She had a flutey kind of laugh. I haven't heard it in a couple of years.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:39 AM
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5. Or do they have a combination of rate poisoning (sachrin and nutrasuite)
and mad cow disease? Weren't the elderly supposed to be the wise steady people handing out advice... not losing their minds and regressing into diapers and dimentia.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:10 AM
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10. That too.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:10 AM
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12. Prion Nation
Decades of mad cow in a beef industry that the government isn't checking, and won't permit to check itself. Just another Republican Party legacy.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:09 AM
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8. Sure glad we cannot use those stem cells
It is much better that we don't destroy the sanctity of precious life in an embryo than to use these blobs which will be thrown away anyway. My grandmother died two weeks ago at 90. But she had completely mentally checked out with dementia more than two years ago. So sad to see someone you love just sit there and stare into no where. Her passing was actually a blessing.

Screw the right-to-lifers. Protect the embryo...hate the person.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:10 AM
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11. What did they say I had? Can someone remind me, please?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:56 AM
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13. Am I the only one who thinks McCain exhibits some of these early
signs?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:19 AM
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16. hell, what about Laura bush?
she never seems to go out much, rarely heard her talk, and when she is visible she has this fixed smile and blank stare.

oh..wait..those are also the signs of heavy Valium use.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:23 AM
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17. Swiss published researcher also at Temple and now Vancouver
has proven spirochetes from syphilis, Lyme, relapsing fever, gum disease etc, in the brain plaque of the majority of Alzheimer's patients. We are being conned. Dr Judith MIKLOSSY

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-48,GGLJ:en&q=Alzheimer%27s++MIKLOSSY

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-48%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=Alzheimer%27s++spirochete&btnG=Search
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:28 AM
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28. 'Conned'
by whom? How?
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:35 AM
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30. The "conning"
By the media that does not report that the CDC and NIH are under the DOD.
By the paid journalists that claim "conspiracy therocy" when anyone tries to write about disease research on Plum Island and other un-secure bio-weapons faculties.
Does not report that the phony American Lyme Disease Association (and I am sure others) that is a front for Managed care and the pharmaceutical companies who take money that should be put into research and do nothing with it.
For phony approved research that is rehashing opinion, not research and then is labeled "peer reviewed".
For a war on labs that actually do their jobs.
(BTW, Canada does little of its own research and accepts the research published in the US, and we give "aid" to other countries who allow our "experts" to direct care there. There is a debate brewing about this now.)
For not explaining to the public about the consequences of classifying emerging diseases since AIDS "National Security Threats" which is now massively funded blows "Public Health" out of the water.
For not explaining that the war on antibiotics, natural medicines and old standby pain relievers is in part fueled by pharmaceutical companies that want you to take one of their new drugs rather than one of the old standbys for monetary reasons.
For almost no autopsies so cause of death can be proved.
The constant monitoring, interference, disruption and harassment of patient support groups by companies made up of former CIA members at the behest of Managed Care and Big pharma. Can't have the people organizing and interfering with Corporations profits and by extension campaign donations. It was big pharma that paid for the first Bush inauguration.

Every patient positive action has to be re fought over and over again in the courts, the media and the halls of government. "of the people, for the people and by the people" has been replaced by "corporations". You cannot even buy exceptional care in America right now. Pro Golfers go to a clinic in South Africa to be treated for persistent Lyme Disease, and I doubt that this is the only disease being given this "directed care".

Now the "why" you will have to research for yourself because you obviously don't want to hear it from me.
Been neck deep in this since 1991 and only treading water.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:24 AM
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19. can we say mad cow - this will become a disaster

nt
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:46 PM
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25. you can say whatever you like if you don't know what you're talking about
why you should be any different than anybody else on the internet?

mad cow has killed around 200 people, almost all in great britain, it has obviously been contained and was never the threat it was advertised to be, altho it's certainly a tragedy for those very few who were impacted

alzheimer's is a disease of aging and your risk skyrockets with age, 1 in 14 over age 70, close to 1 in 2 over age 85

the problem with getting older is that parts wear out and while we can swap in new knees, we can't swap in new brains

all the vegetarian diets and all the crossword puzzles in the world don't change that
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:37 AM
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21. The current U.S. "government" is working on this by making Heath-care Un-affordable.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 11:38 AM by Up2Late
That seems to be their plan, shorter life-spans and higher death rates.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:27 PM
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31. Oh come on. The business model isn't just based on healthy patients
to maximize profits. There's a HELL of a lot of money to be made off of warehousing debilitated old people in squalid nursing homes.
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