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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:17 PM
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AP: Obama gets most of the Texas caucus delegates
Source: Associated Press

12:45 PM CDT on Sunday, March 30, 2008

Associated Press

AUSTIN -- Here is the apportionment so far of presidential caucus delegates to the Texas Democratic state convention based on reports from Saturday’s county and senate district conventions. A total of about 7,300 delegates were expected to be selected in this stage of the caucus process, according to the Texas Democratic Party.

These results are from 145 of about 280 conventions. Clinton: 1,509 delegates, or 40 percent Obama: 2,234 delegates, or 60 percent.

Obama led Clinton 59 percent to 41 percent in results reported from conventions held across the state before counting stopped for the night Saturday—the latest stage of a process that prompted frustration and challenges from supporters of both candidates. Obama showed strength later in the count after his rival built a 60-40 edge in Saturday’s initial results.

Results were in from about half of the approximately 280 conventions before the tallying was suspended for the night.

Read more: http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou080330_tj_caucus.15d3f956.html
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:27 PM
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1. the latest from burntorangereport...
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:33 PM
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2. GOBAMA!
Another State firmly in his win column.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:51 PM
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19. Vive Obama!
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:38 PM
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13. Go TX! Go Obama!
Are Hillary's Rush Limbaugh voters hiding? In denial?

It still amazes me that after lies upon lies, compounded by lies upon lies, that Hillary supporters are still in denial. This is America, you do have to right to support any candidate, regardless of trust and honesty. Check the polls.

An old rebublican supporting the HOPE of Obama...
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Fyddlestyx Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:56 PM
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17. Great news! K & R
I'm sure the Limbaugh followers didn't want to work that hard...Caucusing requires more effort.

A former Independent supporting the HOPE of Obama... :woohoo:
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:32 AM
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21. Her delegates must have flipped ...

No doubt the dittoheads helped select the delegates. But it's clear some of them flipped after hearing the harrowing accounts from the "Hero of Tuzla".

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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:41 AM
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22. Or didn't show up
In our precinct, which was split almost evenly, 11 of her people (including the chairman) didn't attend. Eleven Obama delegates & alternates did attend, and the Obama alternates took the Clinton seats (that's the way it works).
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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:42 AM
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23. Oh, yeah,
and one Clinton delegate in another precinct was disqualified for being a local Republican chair. Much cheering
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:28 AM
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24. Yep Hillary folks have to remember ...

Hillary folks have to remember that the Dittoheads will be voting AGAINST her in the general election. That's a 16% swing.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:29 PM
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25. No, but they didn't turn out in the same proportion as Obama delegates did.
In my county, Obama had about a 60-40 advantage in delegates from the March 4 caucuses. At the county convention, the Obama advantage was about 65-45 in delegate attendees, and he ended up with about 70% of the delegates, even after "balancing" elected delegates (elected by precinct within the country convention) with at-large selections (by senate district within the county convention). How it worked for most precincts: one delegate was to be elected, the top vote getter, the second vote getter to be an alternate; so Obama got the delegate and Hillary the alternate, unless Obama had almost all of the precint's votes. How it worked in a few precincts, like mine: two delegates to be elected; so Obama got the first delegate, HRC the second delegate, Obama the first alternate, HRC the second. So, unless there was a greater than 2-1 Obama edge in those voting, the delegates were split between Obama and HRC -- but if one of the delegates doesn't make it to the state convention, an Obama alternate would be 'elevated' to delegate (my wife is in that position as an Obama alternate).

But national delegates will be elected at the state convention in June. Assuming that Hillary hasn't dropped out by then (which is my assumption), attrition among attending delegates would help the losing side from the county conventions (since most precincts elected only one delegate to the state convention, with an alternate from the other camp). So we Obamites have to keep up the level of participation; and we can also hope that Hillaryites will attrit in greater proportions. At any rate, it appears that Obama will have the majority of the Texas delegation, based on his wins from the caucuses, outnumbering HRC's slight edge from the primary.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:55 PM
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3. less then half in....just saying it ain't over
:evilgrin:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:55 PM
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7. Oh its pretty much over
All the big ones are in. All of the real strongholds for Clinton are counted. 87.01% of the total delegates awarded in the counties have been counted. As of 6:00 p.m. CST
Burnt Orange Report - Results from County Conventions
TIMESTAMP - 6:00PM, 3/30/08

Clinton Delegates
2,956

Obama Delegates
3,714



:dem:


Sonia
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:52 PM
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20. Keep dreaming.
NT!

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:37 PM
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26. Not in the state of Texas. Maybe you're thinking of the state of denial.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:59 PM
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4. Time for nice long vacation, Hil
Take a bow - the exit is to your left.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:05 PM
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5. !!!
Wake UP!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:12 PM
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8. Is it 3 am?
Are we ready to take that call?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:54 PM
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6. And wins TX overall it looks like
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:14 PM
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9. Less than the 20% margin reported in the article...
More like 11.5%. It could drop to 10%, but not any lower.

I think this is about what Obama expected, and I think it will still give him more delegates from Texas than Hillary. Hey Hillary -- Bill said that if you lost Texas or Ohio it is over. Is it over yet?

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:25 PM
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10. 2000 all over again. Popular votes do not count
only delegates, or electoral college do.

And Democrats here celebrate this.

Yes, I know, different government entities different rules, etc. The results are the same. Popular votes do not count.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:32 PM
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12. Texas uses the system they use, and the rules were no mystery to anyone.
Each state sets its own rules (insofar as those rules are consistent with the DNC rules, of course), and delegates are selected accordingly. Texas chose to use a two-step process combining both a primary and a caucus, and chose its delegates in accordance with that process.

Every campaign knew how the delegates would be selected, and that one campaign accrued more than the other ( s ) is no great surprise. At no time before, during or after was the winner of the popular vote guaranteed to win the most delegates.

To analogize, the football team who accrues the most yards rushing is not guaranteed to win the game-- the team who scores the most points is.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:28 PM
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11. "Gets most" means WINS in my household.
I don't know what mathematical purgatory the AP is in.

An editor that can't see that isn't worth his/her salt.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:39 PM
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14. Not in Clinton-ese it doesn't.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:44 PM
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15. it's the Clinton new math
nothing else matters but her


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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:50 PM
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16. In a rational universe those with the most delegates WINS.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:01 PM
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18. happy news.
I want to see this man as president.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:36 PM
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27. In other words, Associated Press
Obama WON.

But since the final counting isn't over, the least you could have written was "Obama WINNING Texas Caucus" or "Obama EXPECTED to win Texas Caucus" if you were shooting for accuracy.

:rofl:
rocknation
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