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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:21 AM
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Gore Begins Huge Public Campaign to Go Green
Source: Washington Post

Gore begins huge public campaign to go green
By Juliet Eilperin

The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Al Gore will launch a three-year, $300 million campaign Wednesday aimed at mobilizing Americans to push for aggressive reductions in greenhouse-gas emissions, a move that ranks as one of the most ambitious and costly public-advocacy campaigns in U.S. history.

The Alliance for Climate Protection's "we" campaign will employ online organizing and television ads on shows ranging from "American Idol" to "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart." It highlights the extent to which Americans' growing awareness of global warming has yet to translate into policy changes, Gore said last week.

He said the campaign, which he's helping fund, was started in large part because he fears lawmakers aren't willing to curb human-generated emissions linked to climate change. "This climate crisis is so interwoven with habits and patterns that are so entrenched, the elected officials in both parties are going to be timid about enacting the bold changes that are needed until there is a change in the public's sense of urgency in addressing this crisis," Gore said. "I've tried everything else I know to try. The way to solve this crisis is to change the way the public thinks about it."

- snip -

"The simple algorithm is this: It's important to change the light bulbs, but it's much more important to change the laws," he said. "The options available to civilization worldwide to avert this terribly destructive pattern are beginning to slip away from us. The path for recovery runs right through Washington, D.C."



Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004316880_gore31.html


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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:58 AM
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1. "...The path for recovery runs right through Washington, D.C."
:applause:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:21 AM
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2. WOW! At the top of DU's Front Page with only one recommend?
That Gore's got some big star power around here... :D

:applause:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:54 AM
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16. The Obama people are pissed that he hasn't endorsed their man
And they're maybe a bit afraid he might step in at the convention to save the Party.

Bake
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:05 AM
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17. Testy lot, aren't they.

Well, now it's got more recommendations.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:09 PM
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26. That's a silly comment and you know it
Why hasn't he endorsed Hillary? Hmm?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:56 PM
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33. Lol!
:D

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:02 PM
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55. Unless you were being sarcastic
it's apparent that you know zilch about the relationship between Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

To put it mildly, they are NOT friends.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:58 PM
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35. Gore will NEVER endorse Obama. Obama supports coal to liquid fuel-a HUGE polluter.
:puke:

The Green Gripe With Obama: Liquefied Coal Is Still . . . Coal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/09/AR2007010901503.html

Obama, Huckabee, Clinton, Rockefeller and Romney Support Coal-to-Liquid Fuel
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS104287+08-Jan-2008+PRN20080108

Edwards Calls for Ban on Coal Plants (NOT Obama, but Edwards)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4065393#4065434
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:53 PM
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46. Yeah, and Hillary supports strip-mining.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5156029&mesg_id=5156029

"You know, maybe there is a way to recover those mountaintops once they have been stripped of the coal. You know, I think we've got to look at this from a practical perspective."

She couldn't have sounded more ridiculous if she came out and said, "You know, maybe there is a way to bring those coal miners back to life once they have died from black lung."
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:15 PM
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57. Denial gets you no where. nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:25 PM
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65. Both Obama and HRC support coal, ethanol, and don't plan on capping
omissions until 2050, after both of them are dead. Neither are "progressive" when it comes to preserving life on earth. Do they think that disaster capitalism is worth sacrificing the very planet that they and their corporate sponsors inhabit? I just don't understand the lack of "big picture' thinking on this issue. We have only one home and we are making it unlivable for EVERYONE. Not just the poor. Not just the millions of other species that we share it (begrudgingly) with. EVERYONE. If the planet gets to the point where it can't produce enough oxygen to sustain life, then how important will fossil fuel profits be?
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:47 PM
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75. So true
Extinct is forever, and it could be us. It amazes when people who have children (such as Obama and Clinton) have so little regard for the future of the planet.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #65
90. Exactly right. I just don't understand how people can do this to our planet and not try to save it!
:argh:
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bow-tie Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:53 PM
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47. I'm from the sixties
generation (59) and I feel it's our fault, all of us Gore supporters that let Al down. No one in the senate would stand up for him, what was he, one man to do? In the sixties there was a solution for things like that. And it didn't look like it to many, but it worked. Election 2000 should never have been allowed to stand. I saw Al on 60 minutes last night and of course the question of 2000 came up. He was hurt by that, who wouldn't be? We didn't stand behind him then due to complacency and probably wouldn't now.
We stopped the VietNam war for christsakes, what happened to us in 40 years, old age?
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #47
78. I'm inclined to agree with you, but
I also blame the party leadership at that time for not getting behind him. People should have been in the streets protesting, but Tom Daschle and Dick Gephardt should have been standing up, too.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:04 AM
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93. All it took was ONE Senator to object
The Black Caucus came begging to the Senate to get just one to go along and launch an investigation. Not a single one would raise their voice. Not Ted Kennedy, not Wellstone, even the very most Liberal Senator would not back the Black Caucus. Bush* had the largest and most extravagant inauguration in history..Boy did he swagger....
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #93
97. He swaggered and bullied and did everything he could
to shove it in our faces right from the start. What a disgusting excuse for a human being.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:46 PM
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53. I'm an Obama supprter and I'm not pissed. Thx though for your concern? n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:07 PM
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62. Oh for Pete's sake. I'm not pissed!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:12 PM
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63. IT WAS A JOKE, PEOPLE!
Don't get your panties in a bunch. Or your jock in a knot.

There is no sense of humor on DU anymore.

Bake
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:14 PM
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41. How do I "recommend"
I've been lurking here since 2000 and posting occasionally for a number of years, but don't really know my way around this system. How do I go about recommending a message, because this is one I think if really important.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:40 PM
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52. Bottom of the OP - next alert and hide.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:00 PM
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72. next TO :)
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:30 AM
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3. K&R n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:38 AM
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4. K&R!
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:40 AM
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5. THE PATH FOR HUMAN EVOLUTION WILL BE PAVED OVER DUBYA
sadly our existing POntiTUS is an ass, who does not believe in evolution because his knuckles still drag on the ground. his father, equally uselsee, was the first of his family to walk upright.

we need a president who will LEAD, and while i do not believe that gore is the man for THAT job, we need a president such as obama who will accept thought and logic as a good thing---

QUOTE FROM ROXANNE (and one i think many of us feel about our government today)

"I have a dream. It's not a big dream, it's just a little dream. My dream - and I hope you don't find this too crazy - is that I would like the people of this community to feel that if, God forbid, there were a fire, calling the fire department would actually be a wise thing to do. You can't have people, if their houses are burning down, saying, "Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!" That would be bad."
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:47 AM
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6. "I've tried everything else I know to try"
really, Al?
I can think of one really big thing ya could've done.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:50 AM
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7. ...
:thumbsup:
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:18 AM
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11. aye aye!
:patriot: I second that!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:50 AM
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8. Been waiting for that
"The simple algorithm is this: It's important to change the light bulbs, but it's much more important to change the laws," he said. "The options available to civilization worldwide to avert this terribly destructive pattern are beginning to slip away from us. The path for recovery runs right through Washington, D.C."


With all due respect, I have written several times that both in "An Inconvenient Truth" and "The Assault on Reason" he stopped short of pointing the finger where it needed to be pointed. While assuring people they could "do something" to help the climate crisis is all well and good, changing light bulbs while not influencing policy - nationally and internationally - is kidding yourself.

I don't think for a minute he was naive about it; just that he's been managing the message carefully - build a groundswell of popular support before really telling it like it is. The backlash from the RW knuckledraggers over even the mild recommendations is evidence he knew what he was doing. Let that happen, let it simmer and eventually sputter, THEN call for more.

Damn, he needs to just be named leader of the world and be done with it.

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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:18 PM
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42. More than anyone on earth;
I'd love a chance to vote for Al Gore and have him win the presidency a 2nd time. Only, in my dream, he'd actually be seated the 2nd time around and would be president for 8 years. Sigh.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:14 PM
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79. He has managed the message brilliantly, hasn't he?
I'll never understand why anyone faced with a choice between this man and the semi-literate, immature, self-absorbed, brain-addled dry drunk we like to call "the chimp" could have ever pulled a lever with the name Bush beside it. How could one single person have voted for GWB?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #79
86. maybe it was
a bunch of semi-literate, immature, self-absorbed, brain-addled dry drunks
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #86
88. That sounds plausible
yet I seldom run into anyone quite as bad as him. Maybe they just disguise it better.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #86
89. Affirmative. Drinking and voting don't mix. Voting should imply consent to a breathalyzer test.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:54 AM
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9. K&R.
This man who knows how to rise above the cesspool of Washington politics to actually get something of the utmost importance done for the people of Earth would make a fine President of this nation.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:08 AM
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10. Sigh... i adore him

K&R!
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:18 AM
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18. Me too.
I'm so glad that he's doing great things, but it makes me sad that he's not in the Oval Office doing them.

:sigh:

K&R for a great article!
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:26 AM
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12. K&R n/t
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Pappy Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:32 AM
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13. Gore is having to do this because the Global Warming skeptics are ramping up the rheteric
He's finding himself in a pickle especially now that the ex CEO of the Weather Channel says Global Warming is the biggest scam of the 21st century and then he invites Gore to a debate and offers to pay Gore his 200k speaking fee on this subject and Gore refuses which is completely stupid on the part of Gore. We all know that Gore has proof of Global Warming being man made so just come out with it and silence all the skeptics already. One of the biggest reasons I back the Global Warming scenario is that it will allow us to put the brakes on this already runaway U.S. economic boondoggle and also its a good way of promoting regulation of the private sector because you just can't argue the facts that we are destroying the planet. Go Gore! You are my hero!
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:04 PM
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22. the ex CEO of Weather Channel has 200K to try and prove Al Gore is wrong?
wow, that's really generous. out of his own pocket, no doubt?

it would be sweet if Al took (whoever)'s money and pounded them in the debate.

what would keep him from doing it? that bugs me.

he's my hero too.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:05 PM
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23. Gore does not need to step into THE ring of clowns. Stepping into the Weather
Channels ignorance only brings the debate down to the 5 yr olds mentallity.

Rather, When Fort Lauderale is under sea water, I would like to see these these assholes including King Cheney
come crawling on their knees, which they won't.
But the land owners in Florida will be chasing after their asses for a long time to come.

In the mean time Gore is on the right path of educating the masses on what they
can do: like kick their elected officials out ( by voting or ,,,other means)
Washington is out of step with the populus and out of step with the world
The New World Order has failed miserably, But now comes the challange to CLEAN IT UP
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:13 PM
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40. I'm totally ready to believe what you say about 'the weather channel's ignorance' but
if what you say is true, aren't these the people we need to convince? Just askin'.
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Pappy Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:32 PM
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43. Yes, Exactly my point.
The Weather Channel's CEO was willing to pay Gore his speaking fee just to get him into the debate, but he says that Global Warming is a myth. That was a prime opportunity for Gore to wipe the floor with these people, especially this guy because of all the Global Warming deniers he is probably the most credible and high profile in the people's eyes. Also he is an ex Weatherman and knows a great deal about weather forcasting. Gore should have agreed to waive the 200,000 buck speaking fee and got in there with this guy and made him look stupid and that would shut up the Global Warming deniers. My point is, I think he missed a golden opportunity to end this debate once and for all. I hear now this guy is suing Al Gore for spreading lies. I believe rather than taking these people head on, armed with the facts, Gore instead is going around running ads and telling people to turn off the lights and is being dodgey with the denier idiots when he should just hit them up with the proof. Like that one poster said they can't deny it when their underwater, so thats perfect. Take a picture of all these coastal areas that are now flooded and bring that to the debate, who can deny that?
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. I dunno. Can't figure out why Al doesn't take them up on it. n/t
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MarkR1717 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:06 AM
Response to Reply #49
91. Well there's always the obvious reason. NT
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #23
80. Funny thing is, it's the EX CEO of the Weather Channel.
Meanwhile, turn on the Weather Channel any time of the night or day and wait 10 minutes or less and they will either be discussing global warming or advertising an upcoming show or segment on it.

There is a reason this guy is the EX CEO.

I agree, if he agreed to debate him, it would be like legitimizing the guy. No need to go there.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #13
76. John Coleman is not a scientist
he's a TV Weatherman.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:43 PM
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81. Good points about the positive side effects. n/t
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:02 AM
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14. K&R.nt
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:27 AM
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15. Kicked and recommended
Gore is already brokering behind the scenes, but it's for the good of the planet as opposed to the good of any mere political party. :thumbsup: :kick: :thumbsup:
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:19 AM
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19. K & R n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:32 AM
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20. About time his work made the front of this site
Although I doubt it will have the same amount of responses as the speculative media crap ones. Anyway, these ads are going to run on cable and network stations and I think they will compel people to see the urgency of the climate crisis and push both business and government to take thw steps necessary to meet this challenge. The Arctic continues to melt at an unrpecedented rate, and with the Wilson ice Shelf collapsing in Antarctica just last week it is evident that we as a species need to pay attention to the truly important issue: our survival. Kudos to Mr. Gore anf The Alliance for Climate Protection for doing this. I sent a donation in a couple months ago, and will do so again.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:00 PM
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21. Until Gore starts talking about nationalizing the oil industry and ELECTRIC CARS . . .
he's not saying much ---


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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:06 PM
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24. good ideas, but...
the electricity for them cars has to come from somewhere. we have to solve that first, I think. please don't say nuclear.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:15 PM
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27. Recharageable batteries --- and once they begin, it will take much less energy ---
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 PM by defendandprotect
See: "Who Killed The Electric Car?" --- movie

your library probably has it ---

Meanwhile, we evidently subsidized the oil industry to get gas stations on every corner --- !!!

I would certainly NEVER say nuclear --- !!!

Nothing like that is necessary --- PLEASE --- see the movie.




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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:10 PM
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39. dude I've seen the movie and I'm a big fan of the idea, but
what I'm saying is: the electricity has to come from somewhere. to charge the rechargable batteries, when the car's not charging them itself. it's not a closed system, you need external electricity.

I'd love to have an electric car, I thought they were gorgeous in the movie. But the electricity has to come from somewhere. The rechargable batteries are nice, and they're getting better, but you still need electricity from outside of the vehicle. Where's that going to come from?

I'm glad you would never say nuclear. I'm really not trying to cancel your idea, I'm really on your side...but there are two big problems with the idea that have been pointed out to me a few times. 1. you need to generated the electricity somewhere and 2. the batteries are a recycling nightmare, they don't last forever.

Hopefully our ingenuity will come through once the orgy of oil greed is over.

BY ALL MEANS, somebody prove me wrong here please.
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Pappy Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:40 PM
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44. Well I will say this about the nuclear thing, its the cleanest, at least greenhouse gases I mean
Well I am one of those environmentalist which has flip flopped on the nuclear issue, solely because with the exception of nuclear waste, nuclear power is the only energy that does not produce greenhouse gases and its basically clean, except for the waste. Yeh I know, how can I say that because the waste is a big problem but as long as you have a good place to contain it, it immediately solves all of the other problems and it will provide clean energy to recharge cars. Nuclear energy has been pretty safe so far also, except for Chernobyl. I don't believe anybody died over the 3 mile island thing. Solar energy is also looking very promising but you have to build huge sites full of mirrors for it to work, and wind power is good too but once again, these things take up far more land and space that nuclear power plants and produce far less electricity. At some point we will start building reliable space ships and we can just blast all that waste into the Sun.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:28 PM
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51. The constuction and materials alone make it an environmental disaster.
And the MONEY jeez it takes billions before you can even get one online. And yes the waste. Sure, go ahead and find someplace safe to store it. And more of it. And more. BUT that place better be safe for 96,000 years. Nobody can guarantee that.

Solar is the way. We need to concentrate everything on that. Lotsa sunshine, and it ain't goin' away, more later when the ozone layer is burned away.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:44 PM
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71. If we go totally solar, we will need to make huge leaps in the technology
of electrical energy storage and very long distance transmission.

I'm from Western Michigan. We get almost no direct sunlight in the winter and would have to import it from Arizona or other such place.

It's a tall order and we need to get on it right now!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:25 PM
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50. I think you need to watch the movie again ....
eventually there would be even solar means of recharging batteries ---
Sit in your car on a warm sunny day and keep the windows closed even in winter?

Obviously, generating electricity isn't that big a deal ---
However, generating electricity where ownership demands that it be dragged over entire coastlines
is a big problem. That's not efficiency; that's greed.
We need to think more in terms of neighborhood generators for buildings.

Meanwhile, the electricity did come from "somewhere" to run the more than 4,000 cars that were on the roads in California which was the subject of the movie. Perhaps we could all give up our TVs in order to create a new surplus of electricity to run cars on?
Of course, we wouldn't have to use electricity to pump gas at those service stations --
nor drag gasoline all across the states. Nor would we have the need for the many auto repair shops and the "in and out" of the gas-guzzler car.

So I think there is a "somewhere" --- and probably much of it once we begin to think about it.

AGAIN -- the potential for increasing the battery/solar cell capabilities and other as yet undiscovered means is much greater and more promising than the concern for the "somewhere" where the need is reduced as the process begins.



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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:11 PM
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56. I'm all for it
and I hope we manage to do it before we poison ourselves out of existence. Seems to me that solar is the way.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:35 PM
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59. Yes . . . and I agree with your concerns about pollution/GW . . . extremely concerned -- !!
And so I hope we both keep moving the message along ---

about GW, about electric cars ---

and especially the concept of nationalizing the oil industry.

In fact, the Democratic platform which JFK ran on in 1960 called for nationalizing the oil industry . . . !!!


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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:36 AM
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I didn't know that about JFK
it might have gotten him killed. If it wasn't Castro, or the CIA, or Sam Giancanna....
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:31 PM
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95. How much JFK had to do with creating the platform, I don't know . .. but
that was the Democratic Party Platform in 1960 . . .

Personally, I think the oil industry was part of the package for the coup on JFK ---

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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:36 AM
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92. dupe - ignore
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:37 AM by navarth
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:08 PM
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25.  Until Gore reognizes the actions of HAARP has alot to do w/Global Warming,
Our climate isn't going to get much better.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 PM
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28. That's another strange, uncovered story . . .
PLUS the Chem trails --- still spreading unknown substances throughout the skies of our world!!!

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:26 PM
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69. Uh, nationalizing the oil industry? Guess what, none of our oil companies are "American"
They are all multinational free market monstrosities. And why would the Federal government want to get in on the oil industry? It's on its last legs, another 20 years tops before new technologies start to take over.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:27 PM
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29. Thanks for the thread, Hissyspit.
I believe these ads will make a major impact.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:31 PM
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30. go Gore!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:49 PM
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31. On 60 Minutes last night, it sounded like Gore was spending 300 million on advertising.
So, it's actually an entire campaign, not just ads.

Now I'm even more pi$$ed off at the hatchet job Leslie Stahl & 60 Minutes did last night! :grr:



Go Gore! I just love the man & what he stands for! :woohoo:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:39 PM
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60. I turned it off so I'm not sure how the whole thing played out????
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 03:40 PM by defendandprotect
To be fair, I don't watch much of this stuff --
but when Gore denied the comment that the Supremes acted "politically" re the 2000 election,
I almost fell off the couch! And, I turned it off -- but just how bad was this re a "hatchet job" on Gore. I did notice that they seemed to be saying he made a lot of $ with the movie
which I found questionable as to the way presented ---

????

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:24 PM
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68. I don't understand why people got so upset about the Gore interview...
So what if they asked tough questions, they asked a lot of softball questions too.So what if the question is difficult if he answers them properly people remember the answer not the question. I don't want liberal news programs throwing nonstop softballs at my candidates. I want middle of the road networks to say the good and the bad. In other words, I don't really think a liberal Fox News is the answer.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:13 PM
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83. I thought the question re the Supreme Court was quite fair ---
and was impressed with the quote Stahl supplied . . . was it a direct quote, I don't really know? --- but I was very disappointed when Gore denied that the Supremes are political.

Had 2000 never happened to Gore, you would still understand that the Supremes are political!!!
If you can't say that, you're in big time denial.

And, that is the point of confusion about Gore . . . he will generally play the Establishment's game --- sadly!

I think in not contesting the 2000 election, he either felt completely intimidated by the opposing powers --- which is highly possible --- or he was following directions from the Establishment --- maybe even the DLC?

But it was sickening --- so too the Kerry cave --

Now, I'm not saying that either of these men had an easy thing going with the POWER opposing them . . . and who knows what threats or intimidations might have been put to them . . .
but somewhere along the line we have to have truth and I don't think for a moment we're getting
the truth from Gore -- or from Kerry. They're holding back.





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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:54 PM
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32. That's Wonderful! BUT
who's going to get rid of Big Oil? Only when we stop our fossil fuel dependency will Global Warming be reversed.

Bring back the Electric Car, and go Solar!

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:04 PM
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36. A massive change in our society's consciousness will have to come first,
it's like they say "where there's a will there's relatives" I mean "where there's will, there's a way" and I believe this advertising campaign is aimed at awaking the American People this looming catastrophe and creating that will.

I believe as Al Gore does, that we have the technology to change, it's the psychology to do so that he's working on. We've become to rigid in our thinking, hopefully this will address that before it turns to riga mortise.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:15 PM
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84. Unless Gore talks about nationalizing our oil industry, he's not saying anything -- !!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 10:15 PM
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85. And the same for ELECTRIC CARS . . . why can't those two words pass his lips???
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:45 PM
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94. I believe he has a book coming out very soon with his proposed solutions
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 01:46 PM by Uncle Joe
to the Global Warming Climate Change Crisis.

No doubt it will make many different proposals as to what needs to be done, while what you propose sounds logical to me in one sense, I disagree with the rest of your premise.

Edit for P.S. "he's not saying anything!!" is absurd.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:57 PM
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34. Recommended and...
Happy 60th birthday, Mr. President.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:06 PM
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38. I second your post, Satbod Elder
Happy Birthday, Mr. President!:party: :toast: :patriot:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:06 PM
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37. K&R for green
We need to live green everyday.

Sonia
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:45 PM
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45. K&R
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MadinMo Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:09 PM
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48. Gore said. "I've tried everything else I know to try. The way to solve this crisis is to change the
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 02:10 PM by MadinMo
way the public thinks about it."


He is so right about this.

Just yesterday my 15 year old son told me our family needs to do more about living green. (The same child who gripes at me that the house is too cold, unfortunately.) And admittedly we have a long way to go as a family. So I'm pleased my son, and daughter, want to pitch in with their own efforts. I think I will use Gore's message as a jumping off point with the family and our own actions.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:48 PM
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54. Green is good, but don't try to impose a Carbon Tax you globalists!!
Besides, I heard that the sun is getting hotter, and all planets are warming, anyways.


Google "sun getting hotter"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&suggon=0&safe=off&q=%22sun+getting+hotter%22&btnG=Search
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:20 PM
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58. K&R. (nt)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:40 PM
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61. Dancing to the dulcet tones backed by the beat of the (wait for it)
Al Gore Rhythm

:evilgrin:

-Hoot
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:37 PM
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66. Aha. Ha. Ha.
Gonna kick your ass for that.
Seriously, LOL!!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:19 PM
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64. is there a website we can watch the commercials? n/t
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:29 PM
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70. This is why I don't understand Gore's TV strategy.....
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 06:33 PM by ShaneGR
If you remember correctly, last year Gore threw this gigantic worldwide concert festival and like a gazillion people saw it and they went on and on about his organization that day. I watched, and I'm sitting here trying to remember what the name of his group was.

I had to google it.

http://www.liveearth.org/

But I'm not sure if he's using the same name for this campaign.

Anyways, they need to send a postcard to every American family, costs about 60 million, everyone remembers a nice postcard. Maybe puts it on their fridge, plus they dont have to memorize the website, its right there on the card!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:21 PM
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67. He's given up on working the system.
Implicitly he has given up on us (the Democratic Party) but won't say so because we are marginally better on the environment than the R.s. Instead of playing a politician's game of nuance, he seems to be preparing for a direct (media and lobbying) assault on the government.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:29 PM
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73. I'm on board, Al!
I'll do anything I can.

Happy 60th!

I watched the movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" when it came out; I went out and bought the Prius that I've had for 1-1/2 years. My hubby now drives a Prius. We've reduced our driving down to next to nothing. We both work out of the house. We homeschool (and, thus, don't drive the kid to school). We use solar to power and heat our pool (and we've taken steps to reduce evaporation). We've reduced our use of plastic products (we avoid buying those small, plastic bottles). We recycle like mad. I bring my steel canteen to the fast food restaurants (and don't use the paper or plastic cups). We've changed the lightbulbs. We try and make a game of thinking of ways to reduce our negative impact on the environment. My kid now shops at the Thrift Stores for clothes (recycles).

Thanks for inspiring us, Sir!
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greengestalt Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:42 PM
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74. Gore for president
If Obama is not the nominee, I think I'll vote for him. He was a great president, even with not being recognized as such.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:06 PM
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77. I had trouble with that link
Here's another link to the same article, though the Post requires registration:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/30/AR2008033001880.html?sub=AR&sid=ST2008033002195
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:55 PM
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82. I'm optimistic
that an Obama presidency would be very much on board to push Al Gore's efforts in combating global warming. In fact, I feel that Al would be given carte blanche to demonstrate some real leadership in this most urgent matter. A Hilary Clinton administration carries too much hubristic baggage to work closely with Gore's initiative.
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:35 PM
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87. Scientists?
How do the major, knowledgeable, scientist weign in on this issue?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:35 PM
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96. Run AGAIN, President Gore!
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