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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 02:58 PM
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B-1 bomber crashes in Qatar
Source: CNN

B-1 bomber crashes in QatarStory Highlights
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Al-Udeid Air Base is headquarters for U.S. air operations in Mideast

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. military says a B-1 bomber has crashed at an American air base in Qatar.

Initial reports are that the bomber crashed at al-Udeid Air Base, headquarters of all American air operations in the Middle East.

The official spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because the reports are preliminary.

There was no information yet on casualties.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/04/bomber.crash.ap/index.html
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:01 PM
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1. Reuters: U.S. B-1 bomber explodes on landing in Qatar: Jazeera
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0436849420080404

DUBAI (Reuters) - A U.S. B-1 bomber exploded while landing in a Qatari air base due to a technical fault on Friday, Qatar-based Al Jazeera television reported.

The television station did not say if anyone was hurt in the incident at the Al Udeid air base south of the Qatari capital Doha. It said earlier a B-52 plane had exploded.

A U.S. air force spokesman said he had no immediate report of such an incident and would check.

Al Udeid is used by U.S. forces in the Gulf Arab country, which hosted the advance headquarters of the U.S.-led forces in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:06 PM
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2. Piece of crap. Probably the only bad airplane North American ever made, and man,
it's a bad one.

Redstone
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:08 PM
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3. Cool-looking, though. n/t
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:40 PM
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7. Still a piece of shit. More lost, by percentage of production, by bird strikes than
any other US military aircraft.

Yes, I know airplanes, and I know that bird strikes are NO joking matter. But even the roundly-condemned Vark could take a bird hit beter than the B-1 piece of crap.

Redstone
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:01 PM
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11. I recall that the ground-hugging radar/avionics, that was the fundmental defense for the B-1B
...did not work. Rockwell/NA tried to make the B-1B a ground hugging airplane, because the supersonic, high altitude, original B-1 could be caught and shot by a Mig. The Air Force ended up with 100 of these airplanes that were no more functional than a 1961 B-52.
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Keefer Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:41 PM
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13. "Ground-hugging radar"
Otherwise known as TFR, Terrain-following radar. It worked superbly on the F-111A. I used to maintain it. Tuning the antenna/receivers was a little tricky, but the system worked as advertised. Can you imagine flying 200 feet off the ground at mach 1.2 on "hard" ride?
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:07 PM
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17. I can't imagine flying my Cessna 182
at 200 feet for long. Scary enough at 120 knots.
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Keefer Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:44 PM
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14. Roundly condemned Vark?
The F-111 was a flying masterpiece! I maintained them for 9+ years at Mountain Home AFB.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:22 PM
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18. Osprey.
I win!

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:10 PM
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4. How much do they cost?
I thought it was a billion per plane, or along those lines?
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:55 PM
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8. From Wikipedia: Unit cost US$283.1 million in 1998 (B-1B)
It's the B-2 that can cost over $2 billion...
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:58 PM
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9. I believe it's this version of the b-1. $200 million +
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:31 PM
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5. Iraq is not a war zone.
Bombing civilian areas is a war crime. Why are we bombing Iraq?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:37 PM
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6. "Why are we bombing Iraq?" - Because the "decider" said so.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:59 PM
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10. A flying crematorium.
This bird is a Raygun era piece of flying(sometimes) flaming blivet(10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag)

Carter rightly suspended the B1 program but in comes the stupid is as stupid does bunch and they reinstate it.

No way to prove it because the USAF will not reported it that way but I'll bet it was on fire before landing and not that it crashed and then burned.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:48 PM
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15. Wow, Tex! You pegged that one!
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:55 PM by sofa king
As per the post just after you, the plane was on fire before landing and the crew safely escaped.

How did you know that?

Edit: The folks I knew who knew the B1-B never called it anything other than a "hangar queen." It sat out the entire first Gulf War, being grounded for one reason or another.

The story I heard about the "B" version is that after Carter canceled the first version, North American began stockpiling parts and investing heavily in Republicans. The scheme worked.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:02 PM
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12. Update, per CNN. Crew safe, plane caught fire on landing was able to taxi.
Crew got out.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:21 PM
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16. Why did the headline not say "B-1 Bomber takes off", too?
Every time one of those craptastic contraptions takes off, it crashes. More proof, if any were needed, that President Carter was right to kill the program, and Ronald Reagan's Rambo-worshipping ass was deluded to start it back up...
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